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Post by ProfessorPlum on Oct 31, 2017 13:54:47 GMT -5
Brady Bunch gif = clear sign of a lost arguement
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Post by ay2013 on Oct 31, 2017 13:55:16 GMT -5
And furthering you proving my point...your whipping boy (uga) beat them both...haha. That doesn’t happen in the ACC. Non-tourney teams from the ACC beat Michigan St. (!!!!!!), LSU, Colorado St. in the non-con, but I guess they are "less" of a threat than Ole Miss, who beat no one OOC and lost to South Alabama, Arkansas State, North Dakota and SMU. READ honey...READ!!! |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 31, 2017 13:59:38 GMT -5
I'm not counting UNC as a win of note for ACC teams - that's why! You appear to be arbitrary using what you "feel." Ok. So who has Miami beaten? Lville and NC State? That’s it in Top 50. And a Top 50 UNC injures team. And they are clearly in? Right? UGA, Who is clearly out, has 3 Top 50 wins and one discounted by one player being out. Seems pretty equal to me. So with all that discussion the ACC should have 7 teams in and the SEC should maybe have 5. Top to bottom, I’m not sure the ACC wins 3 matches of the Top 13. 1) Miami won at Notre Dame, and vs Louisville and NC State. Georgia has beaten Arkansas, @mizzou, and Alabama (three teams in the 40s RPIs, who have relatively weak at-large profiles). Miami's wins are significantly better. Miami has a Top 25 RPI win, and the other two are better than Georgia's two good ones. 2) Unlike UGA, Miami hasn't lost to anyone terrible. Miami's worst result is going down @fsu. Georgia has 3+ losses (depending on what ranking metric you're using) to teams worse than anyone Miami has lost to, including a very bad Wofford team. The SEC is getting two seeded teams, who both have a chance for a Top 4 regional hosting team. The ACC will not get a single seeded team. |
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Post by bluepenquin on Oct 31, 2017 14:27:29 GMT -5
If we go with trojansc's 64 and assume for now the top 16 in RPI are the seeds. Here are the dive-ins for the remaining 48.
AQ's - bottom in terms of RPI. There are 19 teams here - 3 of them will have to be '3' seed teams. A lot of Penn State and Kentucky. There are 2 here that only have Florida. Texas only has one right now, but has opportunities to pick up another.
Alabama State: Florida
Albany: Penn State
American: Penn State
Austin Peay: Kentucky
Bowling Green: Michigan State, Kentucky, Penn State, Wisconsin
Bryant: None
Coastal Carolina: None
College of Charleston: Florida
Fairfield: Penn State
Furman: Kentucky
High Point: None
IUPUI: Kentucky, Michigan State, Wisconsin
Kennesaw State: Kentucky
Maryland Eastern-Shore: Penn State
New Mexico State: None
Oral Roberts: Kansas
Sacramento State: Stanford, USC
Stephen F. Austin: Texas
Yale: Penn State
Here are the next 16 in terms of RPI. We can get an idea of potential fly-in teams.
Baylor: None
BYU: Utah
Cal Poly: USC, Stanford
Colorado: None
Colorado State: None
Illinois: Iowa State, Kentucky
Louisville: Kentucky, Michigan State
Marquette: Wisconsin, Michigan State, Iowa State, Minnesota
Michigan: Kentucky
Oregon State: None
Pittsburgh: Penn State, Michigan State
Purdue: Kentucky
San Diego: USC
UCLA: None
Western Kentucky: Kentucky
Wichita State: Kansas, Nebraska, Creighton
And here is the rest.
Auburn: None
Florida State: Florida
LSU: None
Maryland: None
Miami-FL: Florida
Missouri: Kansas, Iowa State, Creighton, Nebraska
Missouri State: Kansas, Iowa State, Creighton, Nebraska
NC State: None
Northern Iowa: Iowa State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Creighton, Nebraska, Kansas
Notre Dame: Michigan State, Wisconsin, Kentucky
Ohio State: Kentucky
VCU: Penn State
Washington State: None
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Post by brybast on Oct 31, 2017 14:34:20 GMT -5
I'm not sure what a "deep championship conference" is, or what that means. However, I do see the writing on the wall. To me it is obvious the SEC is improving very rapidly. They are committed to being a top conference in volleyball. It's hard to predict if it will be 3 years or 7 years; but I believe they will be equal with B1G and PAC very shortly. It will make things very interesting! IMO, if the SEC is committed to being a top conference in volleyball you would think they would demand that Vanderbilt start a Women's VB program. To me it's really bizarre that Vanderbilt and Oklahoma State don't have WVB programs. |
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Post by FreeBall on Oct 31, 2017 14:48:11 GMT -5
If we go with trojansc's 64 and assume for now the top 16 in RPI are the seeds. Here are the drive-ins for the remaining 48. Great work! Not that it matters much, but here are a couple changes/corrections I noticed: 1. Kennesaw State - Add Florida 2. Pittsburgh - Add Kentucky |
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Post by Cruz'n on Oct 31, 2017 14:56:18 GMT -5
IMO, if the SEC is committed to being a top conference in volleyball you would think they would demand that Vanderbilt start a Women's VB program. I agree the SEC is on the way up...but right now there is almost nothing to suggest that it's a "championship" conference. There are only two of those in volleyball right now, the Big 10 and the Pac-12. I'd even argue that it's just the Big 10. The B1G has won 7 of last 10 championships; and its true that Nebraska dominates Washington. But I don't think even the B1G feels that "it's just the Big 10." |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Oct 31, 2017 14:59:13 GMT -5
If we go with trojansc's 64 and assume for now the top 16 in RPI are the seeds. Here are the dive-ins for the remaining 48. AQ's - bottom in terms of RPI. There are 19 teams here - 3 of them will have to be '3' seed teams. A lot of Penn State and Kentucky. There are 2 here that only have Florida. Texas only has one right now, but has opportunities to pick up another. Alabama State: Florida Albany: Penn State American: Penn State Austin Peay: Kentucky Bowling Green: Michigan State, Kentucky, Penn State, Wisconsin Bryant: None Coastal Carolina: None College of Charleston: Florida Fairfield: Penn State Furman: Kentucky High Point: None IUPUI: Kentucky, Michigan State, Wisconsin Kennesaw State: Kentucky Maryland Eastern-Shore: Penn State New Mexico State: None Oral Roberts: Kansas Sacramento State: Stanford, USC Stephen F. Austin: Texas Yale: Penn State Here are the next 16 in terms of RPI. We can get an idea of potential fly-in teams. Baylor: None BYU: Utah Cal Poly: USC, Stanford Colorado: None Colorado State: None Illinois: Iowa State, Kentucky Louisville: Kentucky, Michigan State Marquette: Wisconsin, Michigan State, Iowa State, Minnesota Michigan: Kentucky Oregon State: None Pittsburgh: Penn State, Michigan State Purdue: Kentucky San Diego: USC UCLA: None Western Kentucky: Kentucky Wichita State: Kansas, Nebraska, Creighton And here is the rest. Auburn: None Florida State: Florida LSU: None Maryland: None Miami-FL: Florida Missouri: Kansas, Iowa State, Creighton, Nebraska Missouri State: Kansas, Iowa State, Creighton, Nebraska NC State: None Northern Iowa: Iowa State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Creighton, Nebraska, Kansas Notre Dame: Michigan State, Wisconsin, Kentucky Ohio State: Kentucky VCU: Penn State Washington State: None is there a reason UCLA can not go to Stanford - this year might be unique for doing so? |
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Post by Fight On! on Oct 31, 2017 15:03:01 GMT -5
If we go with trojansc's 64 and assume for now the top 16 in RPI are the seeds. Here are the dive-ins for the remaining 48. AQ's - bottom in terms of RPI. There are 19 teams here - 3 of them will have to be '3' seed teams. A lot of Penn State and Kentucky. There are 2 here that only have Florida. Texas only has one right now, but has opportunities to pick up another. Alabama State: Florida Albany: Penn State American: Penn State Austin Peay: Kentucky Bowling Green: Michigan State, Kentucky, Penn State, Wisconsin Bryant: None Coastal Carolina: None College of Charleston: Florida Fairfield: Penn State Furman: Kentucky High Point: None IUPUI: Kentucky, Michigan State, Wisconsin Kennesaw State: Kentucky Maryland Eastern-Shore: Penn State New Mexico State: None Oral Roberts: Kansas Sacramento State: Stanford, USC Stephen F. Austin: Texas Yale: Penn State Here are the next 16 in terms of RPI. We can get an idea of potential fly-in teams. Baylor: None BYU: Utah Cal Poly: USC, Stanford Colorado: None Colorado State: None Illinois: Iowa State, Kentucky Louisville: Kentucky, Michigan State Marquette: Wisconsin, Michigan State, Iowa State, Minnesota Michigan: Kentucky Oregon State: None Pittsburgh: Penn State, Michigan State Purdue: Kentucky San Diego: USC UCLA: None Western Kentucky: Kentucky Wichita State: Kansas, Nebraska, Creighton And here is the rest. Auburn: None Florida State: Florida LSU: None Maryland: None Miami-FL: Florida Missouri: Kansas, Iowa State, Creighton, Nebraska Missouri State: Kansas, Iowa State, Creighton, Nebraska NC State: None Northern Iowa: Iowa State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Creighton, Nebraska, Kansas Notre Dame: Michigan State, Wisconsin, Kentucky Ohio State: Kentucky VCU: Penn State Washington State: None is there a reason UCLA can not go to Stanford - this year might be unique for doing so? Same conference... |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Oct 31, 2017 15:05:04 GMT -5
is there a reason UCLA can not go to Stanford - this year might be unique for doing so? Same conference... I know that - that's strictly unallowed for 1st / 2nd round? |
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Post by southie on Oct 31, 2017 15:10:50 GMT -5
I know that - that's strictly unallowed for 1st / 2nd round? Yes. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 31, 2017 15:12:57 GMT -5
I know that - that's strictly unallowed for 1st / 2nd round? Yes. I thought it was more of a guideline that they haven't yet broken but have the ability to? |
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Post by brybast on Oct 31, 2017 15:16:55 GMT -5
 ? That makes no sense. Why would everyone's wins against UNC be crucial to this discussion (though LSU's loss is certainly part of the picture). Please tell me who you think is being shafted in the SEC. Auburn, Arkansas, even Mizzou are likely IN the tourney as of now, for all their faults. Arkansas' only win of note is against a 7-11 Texas A&M team. Auburn better hope the Committee isn't as hard on NC State as you are because that win is the best thing on their resume. Tennessee? Best win is LSU and then Mizzou without Crow after that. Losses to West Virginia, South Carolina and A&M. Alabama? Best win is Arkansas, second best is Tennessee. Lost to Southern Miss, Georgia and Ole Miss. Scheduled 1 team with a pulse in non-con and got blown out. I don’t think the ACC deserves more teams than the SEC. I know it’s a team thing and not a conference thing but in other sports (basketball and baseball) that is taken into account. UNC injuries are taken into account because you take into account Missouri injuries when discussing SEC wins. Why doesn’t the same apply? Also Crow played against uga in Athens. I know you are arbitrary when using facts but just thought you may want to know. I know this is a minor point to the discussion, but in basketball there is no consideration given along the lines of Conference A "deserving" more bids than Conference B. Each team is evaluated individually. I have no idea about baseball. |
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Post by ay2013 on Oct 31, 2017 15:23:32 GMT -5
If we go with trojansc's 64 and assume for now the top 16 in RPI are the seeds. Here are the dive-ins for the remaining 48. AQ's - bottom in terms of RPI. There are 19 teams here - 3 of them will have to be '3' seed teams. A lot of Penn State and Kentucky. There are 2 here that only have Florida. Texas only has one right now, but has opportunities to pick up another. Alabama State: Florida Albany: Penn State American: Penn State Austin Peay: Kentucky Bowling Green: Michigan State, Kentucky, Penn State, Wisconsin Bryant: None Coastal Carolina: None College of Charleston: Florida Fairfield: Penn State Furman: Kentucky High Point: None IUPUI: Kentucky, Michigan State, Wisconsin Kennesaw State: Kentucky Maryland Eastern-Shore: Penn State New Mexico State: None Oral Roberts: Kansas Sacramento State: Stanford, USC Stephen F. Austin: Texas Yale: Penn State Here are the next 16 in terms of RPI. We can get an idea of potential fly-in teams. Baylor: None BYU: Utah Cal Poly: USC, Stanford Colorado: None Colorado State: None Illinois: Iowa State, Kentucky Louisville: Kentucky, Michigan State Marquette: Wisconsin, Michigan State, Iowa State, Minnesota Michigan: Kentucky Oregon State: None Pittsburgh: Penn State, Michigan State Purdue: Kentucky San Diego: USC UCLA: None Western Kentucky: Kentucky Wichita State: Kansas, Nebraska, Creighton And here is the rest. Auburn: None Florida State: Florida LSU: None Maryland: None Miami-FL: Florida Missouri: Kansas, Iowa State, Creighton, Nebraska Missouri State: Kansas, Iowa State, Creighton, Nebraska NC State: None Northern Iowa: Iowa State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Creighton, Nebraska, Kansas Notre Dame: Michigan State, Wisconsin, Kentucky Ohio State: Kentucky VCU: Penn State Washington State: None is there a reason UCLA can not go to Stanford - this year might be unique for doing so? why? |
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Post by bluepenquin on Oct 31, 2017 16:05:09 GMT -5
Here is the next 4 and the 4 following that.
Hawaii: None
North Carolina: None
Arkansas: Kansas
Iowa: Iowa State, Creighton, Kansas
Alabama: None
Dayton: Kentucky, Michigan State, Penn State
Tennessee: None
North Texas: Texas
And here are some plausible replacements for some of the AQ's.
Big Sky (Sacramento State)
Noth Dakota: Minnesota
Portland State: Oregon
Horizon (IUPUI)
Cleveland State: Michigan State, Penn State, Kentucky
MAC (Bowling Green)
Miami-OH: Kentucky, Michigan State
Southern (Furman)
East Tennessee: Kentucky
Southland (Stephen F. Austin)
Central Arkansas: None
Sun Belt (Coastal Carolina)
Texas State: Texas
Arkansas State: None
South Alabama: Florida
The Summit (Oral Roberts)
Denver: None (Colorado)
Since Colorado right now is a plausible seed - Colorado State and possibly Denver would be drive-ins.
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? That makes no sense. Why would everyone's wins against UNC be crucial to this discussion (though LSU's loss is certainly part of the picture).