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Post by cyberVBmidwest on Nov 21, 2017 16:46:04 GMT -5
I think the commenters should state what they are comparing the league to. NBA, NFL? No, not even close. One of the lower end Euro leagues for men's volleyball in regard to pay. Maybe... The key missing ingredient is a "home" city but maybe that will come. Thoughts?
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Post by akbar on Nov 21, 2017 17:00:31 GMT -5
umm. To me this is a very very good thing and I would hope that EVERYONE would be doing what they can to make this successful and promote the positive.
It is very easy to be pessimistic here and that needs to be avoided.
Be a part of this in a positve light.
We have a lot of young people who would love to have this come to fruition and many here can help lay this foundation.
It will take time and fortitude.
GO NVA!
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Post by cyberVBmidwest on Nov 21, 2017 18:15:46 GMT -5
umm. To me this is a very very good thing and I would hope that EVERYONE would be doing what they can to make this successful and promote the positive. It is very easy to be pessimistic here and that needs to be avoided. Be a part of this in a positve light. We have a lot of young people who would love to have this come to fruition and many here can help lay this foundation. It will take time and fortitude. GO NVA! I agree. I was attempting to get commenters to focus on the positive. There are a lot of leagues in Europe that aren't big, don't have a ton of big name national team players, don't pay a ton but they do have a league which is way better than we have in the USA. Most of the negative comments are based on comparing it to something that we shouldn't expect, at least for the first ten years. We need everyone to contribute to give it momentum...
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Post by robonthemic on Nov 21, 2017 21:26:11 GMT -5
For a lot of the reasons that have been stated in previous comments I'm supporting the league. I went to some of the teams' websites and heard of some of the rosters. I don't know if they're "confirmed" but there are a few AVP guys playing on a couple teams as well as a bunch of guys from respectable, upper-tier D1 programs like Lewis, Loyola, Ohio St., Stanford, Long Beach St. and UC Irvine to name a few.
I think it will take time for this to get traction, but if we in the volleyball community can support it by attending, watching and following the NVA (or any pro-VB league) I firmly believe that it can be successful. Any wise businessperson has to plan for losses in the first couple years. I imagine Donald Sun would to have employed a similar mentality.
I am a fan of the game so I cannot wait for this to happen. One of the teams is within a 10-minute drive (Blizzard) and a few of my UCI guys are on the team, and a few of the Beachies are on there (as well as a some Stanford guys).
Go to their social media and like/follow-- it's the least we can do.
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Post by Tall Surprise on Nov 22, 2017 12:13:31 GMT -5
While I support the idea and hope it takes off, there is no chance I fly across the country to go watch. Every year I play at usav nationals, during my off matches I go and watch open play. It's where I saw someone attack a free ball from the back row and now I'm obsessed with trying to do the same. I would be interested in attending a local match with my coaching friends. I think if you read vt you support any pro league, you just want to see it succeed. So with that comes skepticism about the plan
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Post by Scipio Aemilianus on Nov 22, 2017 12:56:22 GMT -5
Obviously everyone supports anything pro volleyball in America but I think the questions about it are fair. Also think it's fair to have very low expectations for the first event. I think this 'Championship' type event is almost entirely about getting sponsors/media attention to the league. With a little bit of this league needs a end of season championship type event in future seasons. This year's event won't be determined a success by it's attendance numbers, which I expect to be low. It's about putting value into the teams and markets. If it goes well, companies will want to sponsor teams in future events. Team Blizzard could turn into Team Adidas and they could play in the "Bud Light NVA presented by Youtube" with Bud Light providing money for gyms/flights and YouTube paying for and producing the live streams. Get a custom advertised net and each team gets an additional sponsor like that silly UPS logo the national team used to have on their jersey. In a few years, NBCSN could buy the broadcast rights and AVCA or Art of Coaching could have events in same city/weekend as a regional tournament. Those type of things will help fund the league and bring attention to it. That type of stuff will help this league survive and grow.. not ticket sales revenue.
Hoping for all the best for this league and look forward to some good volleyball in a couple weeks!
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Post by panicvb on Nov 22, 2017 18:15:33 GMT -5
I'm happy that this event is happening and that it plans on developing into a league. However I read on one of the Vball sites that this is not the league that US VB is developing. WIth that in mind, I like this a lot more.
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Post by robonthemic on Nov 27, 2017 3:15:57 GMT -5
The only truly "elite" players are Ball, Holmes, and the big Swede Nilsson. Real pros are in season. I hear there is a rather large payout but other than that it is a free vacation just like PVL was. With Ball and Nilsson on the same team, you would think Team Pineapple would be a favorite to win. However, some of the rosters do have some well known domestic talent, so hopefully they will make things interesting. If The Iceman's roster shows up they should be a pretty good team as well... Peter Jasaitis (Loyola) L Lucas Yanez (Lewis) L Joseph Smalzer (Loyola) Opp Jeremy Dejno (UCI) OH BJ Boldog (Lewis) S Matt Callaway (Penn St.) MH Jay Petty (Lewis) OH Cody Caldwell (Loyola) OH could also be on that roster. Blizzard (SoCal-based team has their roster up on the site) blizzardvolleyball.com/pages/pro-team/Quite a few Pep, Long Beach St., Stanford and UCI guys on the roster-- w/ Russ Holmes.
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Post by fifedaddy26 on Nov 27, 2017 7:59:22 GMT -5
“I am sure Lloy will make his guys take this seriously given their track record at PVL, but what is stopping something like the setter from BANGERS shotgunning beers mid match after a killer rally?”
You say that as if Happy Gilmore was bad for golf.... #BANGERZ
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Post by wyomingpancake on Nov 28, 2017 13:01:33 GMT -5
“I am sure Lloy will make his guys take this seriously given their track record at PVL, but what is stopping something like the setter from BANGERS shotgunning beers mid match after a killer rally?” You say that as if Happy Gilmore was bad for golf.... #BANGERZ goat
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Post by rstclaire1 on Nov 28, 2017 15:06:35 GMT -5
“I am sure Lloy will make his guys take this seriously given their track record at PVL, but what is stopping something like the setter from BANGERS shotgunning beers mid match after a killer rally?” You say that as if Happy Gilmore was bad for golf.... #BANGERZ Lol. Fifer you're a legend
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Post by robonthemic on Dec 1, 2017 12:20:51 GMT -5
Just found out that Paul Lotman is on Blizzard. That team and Team Pineapple are the early favorites but there are some pretty solid competitors on the Rising Tide, Academy United and the Chicago teams.
BTW, for full-disclosure, I'll be doing play-by-play with former Long Beach St. OH, Dalton Ammerman on color, on the webstream-- I don't know if it's free or where it's going to be at online. Will keep you posted.
More than anything I'm thankful for the opportunity, but I'm hoping that people 1) tune in when they can, 2) like/follow NVA's social media, and 3) visit the NVA webpage. My sense is that the NVA board want to grow this but they need to provide analytics/data in future proposals for sponsor solicitation (domestic and abroad). Every little bit helps. For the record, I have no vested interested except for a desire to see an indoor league establish itself. Selfishly, I hope there would be teams in my immediate area representing LA, OC, SD and yes, the IE (yeah, #SuckItCBU) -- one day... One can always dream.
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Post by trying2learn on Dec 4, 2017 19:26:12 GMT -5
Just found out that Paul Lotman is on Blizzard. That team and Team Pineapple are the early favorites but there are some pretty solid competitors on the Rising Tide, Academy United and the Chicago teams. Isnt Lotman in Indonesia? Anyways, I was very disapointed at first with the "weekend warrior" format...but at this stage, i guess its better than nothing
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Post by netsetter on Dec 4, 2017 19:58:02 GMT -5
I like what is going on right now with this. The only thing that I do not like is that there is no schedule yet. I hope this does not turn into a one-off weekend competition and that is all. I would love to see a FIVB Grand Prix (and more recently a World League) format where one teams hosts 3 others for a 6-match weekend (not just a series of tournaments). I think that would be the best bet to get somewhat decent attendance instead of weekly matches at home venues at this point.
I actually like the rosters they have lined up. There are a lot of guys who were recently playing and starting on pro teams in decent leagues. I know some of them would still have careers if they hadn't chosen to come back to the United States because this place is home. No, we are not going to see Matt Anderson, Micah Christenson, or Max Holt, but that is quite a far ways off. It would be neat if this were an "off-season" league for those guys to come back from Europe and participate in, but the FIVB calendar is already full (these guys play way too many months out of the year).
I would be there this weekend if not for some events at work. I will tune in when I can (even if it costs).
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Post by robonthemic on Dec 7, 2017 16:11:22 GMT -5
The schedule just posted on their Instagram (nvausa). Still waiting on a link for viewing.
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