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Post by ncaavball on Nov 28, 2017 23:43:42 GMT -5
Did Cheryl run away to Atlanta because the heat was too hot in the kitchen or is she finally leaving his sleazy ass!? She's probably looking at that 1.25m Oregon compound and is going to cash in before the feds do..... She's about 15-20 years younger, she's planning her exit strategy........
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Post by ikamtm on Nov 29, 2017 18:26:19 GMT -5
Did Cheryl run away to Atlanta because the heat was too hot in the kitchen or is she finally leaving his sleazy ass!? She's probably looking at that 1.25m Oregon compound and is going to cash in before the feds do..... She's about 15-20 years younger, she's planning her exit strategy........ I'm guessing this was a tongue in cheek attempt at humor? Anyone who knows anything about the Butler's knows that Cheryl was, is and will always be his biggest supporter. I don't know her but those that I know that do know her say that if it weren't for her blind loyalty to Rick, she is a very nice person and a shrewd business woman. I heard about the Atlanta deal through the same friend and they said she will be here during the week and leave for Atlanta only on weekends. Whoever said love is blind hit the nail on the head.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Nov 29, 2017 20:10:17 GMT -5
Isn’t Cheryl a former player of Rick’s?
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Post by Sorry Ass Sal on Nov 29, 2017 20:35:38 GMT -5
PIN THIS THREAD NEXT TO THE JOBS THREAD Forum rules prohibit (or at least strongly discourage) using caps.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2017 21:06:48 GMT -5
Haggertys and Carlini have gone on record defending Rick Butler multiple times! How the hell can you deny this, too? You are such a muppet for Wisconsin. It’s bad enough that we have supporters of Butler on here denying his sexual abuse. We don’t need a muppet Badger fan denying that the Haggertys and Carlini have posted publicly on social media in support of this monster. If any reporters did real investigative work anymore someone would ask Carlini to defend her support in light of these new stories and videos. Do it at her next Addidas sponsored event. Or better yet ask an Addidas Execituve at their next presser about Carlini and her support of this creep. It doesn’t even need to be a Carlini or volleyball event. Reporters: The NCAA Final Four VB is coming soon and hopefully Addidas will be there...ASK THEM? When was the last time Carlini posted a defense of Rick Butler on social media? And why do you keep misspelling "Adidas"
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Post by metoo on Nov 30, 2017 0:43:39 GMT -5
I am one of Rick Butler's victims. I want to say thank you to everyone on here that has been so supportive. And if there are any Rick Butler supporters reading this please help me to understand your side. Do you think he didn't have sex with me and the others when we were his players and under 18? Do you think he did but don't care? Please help me to understand where you are coming from. We have not sued him and are not asking for anything for ourselves. We simply are trying to make sure this horrible thing he did to us with lifetime effects doesn't happen to another child. Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 1:08:38 GMT -5
To all of you Butler 'defenders': I am a man, + a parent; Do NOT Misunderstand my words. This courageous young woman who posted this gut-wrenching/ heartbreaking post Is NOT just "some number" in a sicko's vball "factory"; this is av brave person who trusted Your MONSTER: and had her soul/ guts/ heart RIPPED right out of her. You-he make me SICK
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Post by Phaedrus on Nov 30, 2017 8:22:59 GMT -5
Isn’t Cheryl a former player of Rick’s? I don't believe so.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Nov 30, 2017 9:04:01 GMT -5
It is becoming harder and harder for the Rick Butler supporters to defend him simply because of the landscape of social media and what the internet is today. Cheryl can reference the boxes of materials that "prove" his innocence as many times as she wants because they picked and choose what materials they wanted to keep in his defense when they would offer that to everyone all those years. Unfortunately for them more and more material that they kept hidden away and was not easy to access as well as new info coming to light online, inhibits their argument since people can now do their own homework and research to develop an opinion.
I have said this more times than I can count, if social media existed in the light it does today back in the early 2000's the GLC may not exist and the entire landscape of Midwestern volleyball may be different.
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Post by trainermch on Nov 30, 2017 9:05:29 GMT -5
I am one of Rick Butler's victims. I want to say thank you to everyone on here that has been so supportive. And if there are any Rick Butler supporters reading this please help me to understand your side. Do you think he didn't have sex with me and the others when we were his players and under 18? Do you think he did but don't care? Please help me to understand where you are coming from. We have not sued him and are not asking for anything for ourselves. We simply are trying to make sure this horrible thing he did to us with lifetime effects doesn't happen to another child. Thank you. I am so sorry. My 57 y/o sister suffered at the hands of a horrible creep as a child. He was and still is a revered community member. She has yet to speak out. Unfortunately, she does not have your strength or courage, but I understand. I am certain she is not his only victim. She suffers silently, as do her husband and 3 (now adult) children. I applaud you for having the courage to speak out. I understand why it took time to speak out. I hope for your sake Butler will eventually pay for the damage he intentionally and selfishly inflicted upon you and other young teens. But if that never comes about in this lifetime, I believe it eventually will. Try to take a little comfort in that. God bless you and your family.
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Post by metoo on Nov 30, 2017 9:38:27 GMT -5
I am so sorry about your sister. I pray she has the strength to come forward as that is when the healing started for all of us. Cheryl was an assistant coach when I played for Butker. 2 of my teammates told me she used to ask them what was going on between Rick and I. They told me she said it was not normal the way we interacted and that they should say something to somebody. Now she is married to him and drfending him. It blows my mind. To the Butler supporters- what is he saying to make you defend him? We have letters proving he lied about our ages, there was enough evidence they chose to ban him. Or do you not care we were children and his players? Do you think it won't happen to your daughter because she is too smart? We were smart and tops in our class too! Please respond as I need to understand where you are coming from. And yes I do believe in perfect justice. If not on this earth then when he faces God on judgement day. He will have to answer to everything he has done and will reap what he has sowed. That is enough for me. But I/we are still trying to do something on earth to save another child...
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Post by metoo on Nov 30, 2017 9:44:37 GMT -5
Moderndaycoach- I hope you are right about social media and forming their own opinion but if I know Butler he has them trained to read things in a certain way and to ignore/disregard facts. I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 9:54:23 GMT -5
I am one of Rick Butler's victims. I want to say thank you to everyone on here that has been so supportive. And if there are any Rick Butler supporters reading this please help me to understand your side. Do you think he didn't have sex with me and the others when we were his players and under 18? Do you think he did but don't care? Please help me to understand where you are coming from. We have not sued him and are not asking for anything for ourselves. We simply are trying to make sure this horrible thing he did to us with lifetime effects doesn't happen to another child. Thank you. I am so sorry. My 57 y/o sister suffered at the hands of a horrible creep as a child. He was and still is a revered community member. She has yet to speak out. Unfortunately, she does not have your strength or courage, but I understand. I am certain she is not his only victim. She suffers silently, as do her husband and 3 (now adult) children. I applaud you for having the courage to speak out. I understand why it took time to speak out. I hope for your sake Butler will eventually pay for the damage he intentionally and selfishly inflicted upon you and other young teens. But if that never comes about in this lifetime, I believe it eventually will. Try to take a little comfort in that. God bless you and your family. It is amazing how quickly the tide has changed on this issue since Weinstein came down. As more and more women become emboldened to speak out over this BS, I hope that other women (who most probably exist) will come forward about the creep that caused your sister suffering, and the greatest hope would be that this recent trend allows her to find her own voice.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Nov 30, 2017 10:06:22 GMT -5
Moderndaycoach- I hope you are right about social media and forming their own opinion but if I know Butler he has them trained to read things in a certain way and to ignore/disregard facts. I hope I'm wrong. I have said this before every time this story goes public nation wide I just envision him sitting up on the mezzanine of his facility while all his players and staff stand down on the courts looking up at him while god save the queen blasts throughout the gym and just holds his hands up like they should be praising him. I mean it is plain and simple, I have had multiple players and parents confront me face to face over the last two decades saying they believe Rick and stand behind him, immaturely 15 years ago or so whenever a parent would say they stand behind him I used to ask if they will still be saying that when their daughter is bent over in front of him. It wont change what they ingrain into their supporters minds, so many times I hear the argument "well that was so long ago" like it should mean something different. I will have to go back and pull up the quote from the Sun Times article where they link the letter from his lawyer but he says something about how he should not be judged of his actions in the 80's with the standard of the 90's, or at least that is how I interpreted it which is just disgusting like he still justifies what he did as appropriate for the times. Emily Swanson did a great job publicly airing his dirty laundry out to the likes of which we have not seen in quite some time and I am sure the Butlers came after her for that, that is where I say if we had that social media prowess back in the early 2000's he would for sure not be around whether that was in Oregon or in a jumpsuit down in Joliet. I would love to see people who are in his gym every weekend start to print and laminate multiple copies of all the letters and just start taping them above the urinals and to the back of the stall doors until they have to put a bathroom attendant in there to assure it stops happening. I can't even imagine how frustrating that would be as something else they would have to worry about as he hides in the "safe haven" of his own facility.
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Post by ProfessorPlum on Nov 30, 2017 11:35:53 GMT -5
I am one of Rick Butler's victims. I want to say thank you to everyone on here that has been so supportive. And if there are any Rick Butler supporters reading this please help me to understand your side. Do you think he didn't have sex with me and the others when we were his players and under 18? Do you think he did but don't care? Please help me to understand where you are coming from. We have not sued him and are not asking for anything for ourselves. We simply are trying to make sure this horrible thing he did to us with lifetime effects doesn't happen to another child. Thank you. Bump this for HawkAttack, Ace, & any other RB deflectors, apologists & SUPPORTERS!
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