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Post by rainbowcard on Dec 3, 2017 14:05:50 GMT -5
I can't see MAGs or CMA doing that especially with their academics, plus Mags is a pretty reserved person. I wouldn't rule Emily Maglio out as a coach just because she has a reserved personality...if you watched Robyn play when she was at UH she was one of the most shy and reserved players back then but look at her now That’s true I never really thought that in a way they are kinda similar in that aspect! They both have a lot of hard work and passion for the game too. Watch Mags be a coach one day lol! Hope she’ll be in the Olympics for Canada
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Post by wang pu on Dec 3, 2017 14:34:32 GMT -5
Maafala's hands as setter are so impressive. Her connections with the middles were better than Iosias. As for Maafala taking over the setting duties full time, how is she as a blocker? I don't know what her role at Southern Utah was.
If Hawaii can develop two RS hitters (even if Iosia is one of them), why not continue using a 6-2?
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Post by situasian on Dec 3, 2017 14:40:03 GMT -5
as the case with most new coaches, they talk about buying in. i take that as a shot to shoji. robyn talks as if they never worked hard or went through the motions with shoji. she said at the press conference they need to change the culture. i dont know what needs changing. she must be looking for different types of players, she is going to coach the way she played, and will try to find players like her.
for 42 years, hawaii volleyball has been a successful program with a bunch of quality individuals (for the most part, a few bad apples). the girls graduate, become successful citizens, are role models for the girls of hawaii, and does things right. nothing about the culture has to be changed.
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Post by situasian on Dec 3, 2017 14:41:49 GMT -5
you keep thinking im a troll. no clue why. someone made negative comments about the team the other day yet it was ok for that person. you are too funny. kaleo is from kauai, enough said. yeah he was ivc, uci, not saying he's a bad coach, just saying they aren't as good as other programs, but they all can get there i understand kendra being a hitter, but she didn't hit for the last 3 years. the thing i find interesting is some of you keep praising robyn but keep trying to coach by saying who should play, who shouldnt. coaching is a big part of elite programs. although they are not there YET, there's no reason they can't get there What does being from Kauai have anything to do with his lack of knowledge or what kind of coach he is?
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Post by situasian on Dec 3, 2017 14:42:19 GMT -5
do you know any person from kauai that is a coach any where and successful? thank you
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Post by Seahawks 1972 on Dec 3, 2017 14:59:09 GMT -5
It wasn’t just Sibley who looked heavier. Norene and Granato, who were both busy playing national teams, inexplicably also looked heavier. Even Casey looked like she gained some bad weight. Of the bulkier women, only Kahakai came back looking leaner and imho there was a huge payoff in her mobility. Burns actually looked like she put on some muscle that improved her game (Howling and Williams hopefully will follow suit). IMO Kahakai looked absolutely fit and quick during the Tournament period and then she returned to a more sluggish and timid type of defensive player. Sibs, Granato, Norene and Casey all looked sluggish and out of breath at times during the season. Norene's blocking threat was rare or nonexistent compare to her level last year and balls would drop more often around her more frequently. Granato was much better defensively and during serve receive the later part of the schedule however the beginning of the season for her was frightening. Casey needs to pump up weights and enjoy herself and get some grit in her persona. I hope Sibs regroups and comes back with a vengance. Illinois looked fit and quick...enough said.
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Post by HawaiiVB on Dec 3, 2017 15:03:27 GMT -5
The culture for a lot of Dave's players and the way he recruited was two-fold. The rare Fab 50 player that came along, like Iosia and Granato. And the players that could use some time in the system. What Coach Robyn is referring to, are those players recruited that could use some time in the system before being able to contribute in matches. Dave of recent years was more accommodating to finding contributors right off the bat, however, a players character was super important to him especially players with a strong faith-based foundation. After all, these are youngsters who will be away from home for the first time. Being safe and feeling safe should be important for all teams. He used to think that finding athletes versus volleyball players was a strategy that would pay off. The way the game is being played now, specialists are the majority. And with the spread of popularity of the sport, you have a lot of players who are volleyball players versus just athletes, so you can find a lot of good players who have been playing for a long time. You even have non-middle front row specialists that only play three rotations. The strategy here is that they don't wear out fast and the back row is not in jeopardy since they won't be serving targets. That goes well with a 6-2.
There is nothing wrong with bringing in players with potential that could use some time in the system, its just she is saying she will go after players who are ready to go now. Probably because the RPI is important now and pre-conference play is critical for Mid-Majors.
Different philosophy. It's up to the coach. For many coaches who cannot recruit blue chippers all the time, a strategy is to go for players with potential and mold them into D1 players. I believe that has been Dave's approach.
As for a 6-2, you need two setters who can think 6-2 offense. Its been around for a long time, but now it's coming back with renewed interests because they can see having multiple attackers at all times. It will really comes down to what kind of offense a coach wants. It can take a season or two to implement. Critics and backers will always be split. UCLA and USC use the 6-2 currently.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Dec 3, 2017 15:10:36 GMT -5
The culture for a lot of Dave's players and the way he recruited was two-fold. The rare Fab 50 player that came along, like Iosia and Granato. And the players that could use some time in the system. What Coach Robyn is referring to, are those players recruited that could use some time in the system before being able to contribute in matches. Dave of recent years was more accommodating to finding contributors right off the bat, however, a players character was super important to him especially players with a strong faith-based foundation. After all, these are youngsters who will be away from home for the first time. Being safe and feeling safe should be important for all teams. He used to think that finding athletes versus volleyball players was a strategy that would pay off. The way the game is being played now, specialists are the majority. And with the spread of popularity of the sport, you have a lot of players who are volleyball players versus just athletes, so you can find a lot of good players who have been playing for a long time. You even have non-middle front row specialists that only play three rotations. That goes well with a 6-2. There is nothing wrong with bringing in players with potential that could use some time in the system, its just she is saying she will go after players who are ready to go now. Probably because the RPI is important now and pre-conference play is critical for Mid-Majors. Different philosophy. It's up to the coach. For many coaches who cannot recruit blue chippers all the time, a strategy is to go for players with potential and mold them into D1 players. I believe that has been Dave's approach. As for a 6-2, you need two setters who can think 6-2 offense. Its been around for a long time, but now it's coming back with renewed interests because they can see having multiple attackers at all times. It will really come down to what kind of offense a coach wants. It can take a season or two to implement. Critics and backers will always be split. UCLA and USC use the 6-2 currently. Ucla runs a 5-1 with sponcil. Penn state and usc are the two teams in the tournament who run 6-2s. Utah does at times, and florida runs a 5-2.
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Post by HawaiiVB on Dec 3, 2017 15:33:42 GMT -5
The culture for a lot of Dave's players and the way he recruited was two-fold. The rare Fab 50 player that came along, like Iosia and Granato. And the players that could use some time in the system. What Coach Robyn is referring to, are those players recruited that could use some time in the system before being able to contribute in matches. Dave of recent years was more accommodating to finding contributors right off the bat, however, a players character was super important to him especially players with a strong faith-based foundation. After all, these are youngsters who will be away from home for the first time. Being safe and feeling safe should be important for all teams. He used to think that finding athletes versus volleyball players was a strategy that would pay off. The way the game is being played now, specialists are the majority. And with the spread of popularity of the sport, you have a lot of players who are volleyball players versus just athletes, so you can find a lot of good players who have been playing for a long time. You even have non-middle front row specialists that only play three rotations. That goes well with a 6-2. There is nothing wrong with bringing in players with potential that could use some time in the system, its just she is saying she will go after players who are ready to go now. Probably because the RPI is important now and pre-conference play is critical for Mid-Majors. Different philosophy. It's up to the coach. For many coaches who cannot recruit blue chippers all the time, a strategy is to go for players with potential and mold them into D1 players. I believe that has been Dave's approach. As for a 6-2, you need two setters who can think 6-2 offense. Its been around for a long time, but now it's coming back with renewed interests because they can see having multiple attackers at all times. It will really come down to what kind of offense a coach wants. It can take a season or two to implement. Critics and backers will always be split. UCLA and USC use the 6-2 currently. Ucla runs a 5-1 with sponcil. Penn state and usc are the two teams in the tournament who run 6-2s. Utah does at times, and florida runs a 5-2. Oops I meant Utah.
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Post by situasian on Dec 3, 2017 15:35:05 GMT -5
The culture for a lot of Dave's players and the way he recruited was two-fold. The rare Fab 50 player that came along, like Iosia and Granato. And the players that could use some time in the system. What Coach Robyn is referring to, are those players recruited that could use some time in the system before being able to contribute in matches. Dave of recent years was more accommodating to finding contributors right off the bat, however, a players character was super important to him especially players with a strong faith-based foundation. After all, these are youngsters who will be away from home for the first time. Being safe and feeling safe should be important for all teams. He used to think that finding athletes versus volleyball players was a strategy that would pay off. The way the game is being played now, specialists are the majority. And with the spread of popularity of the sport, you have a lot of players who are volleyball players versus just athletes, so you can find a lot of good players who have been playing for a long time. You even have non-middle front row specialists that only play three rotations. The strategy here is that they don't wear out fast and the back row is not in jeopardy since they won't be serving targets. That goes well with a 6-2. There is nothing wrong with bringing in players with potential that could use some time in the system, its just she is saying she will go after players who are ready to go now. Probably because the RPI is important now and pre-conference play is critical for Mid-Majors. Different philosophy. It's up to the coach. For many coaches who cannot recruit blue chippers all the time, a strategy is to go for players with potential and mold them into D1 players. I believe that has been Dave's approach. As for a 6-2, you need two setters who can think 6-2 offense. Its been around for a long time, but now it's coming back with renewed interests because they can see having multiple attackers at all times. It will really comes down to what kind of offense a coach wants. It can take a season or two to implement. Critics and backers will always be split. UCLA and USC use the 6-2 currently.
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Post by situasian on Dec 3, 2017 15:39:59 GMT -5
well said. i agree with dave bringing in players to develop as he has done a nice job with that. that could be the difference as the staff now may not be able to do that as well as dave did. robyn needs to adjust to being a head coach. she did a great job as an assistant, working with players individually during matches. now as the head coach she has to worry about everything else.
coaching over 42 years, dave has had many connections as im sure robyn does playing for so long internationally and throughout the us. however, the college coaching circle is unique and people you know coaching for so long helps in recruiting.
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Post by dd2000 on Dec 3, 2017 15:55:04 GMT -5
“Next year starts right now,” first-year head coach Robyn Ah Mow-Santos said. “As I told the girls, think about what it is you have to work on now in order to get better. Is it your physical ability? Is your cardio OK so that you can last five sets? What are the skills you need to work on? “The season doesn’t start in spring or in two-a-days. When we get to two-a-days (in August) I’m looking to set a lineup, not training to find one.” Read more: volleytalk.net/thread/71777/hawaii-2018?page=2#ixzz50EUqO6zsWell there you have it. And this just happened to be the topic of conversation among us know nothings LOL. Robyn started the season with this message and she's ending it with this message. Every returning player and every potential transfer and recruit need to be on board. Spelled out black and white. Seahawks is right; Illinois looked lean and fit. And so do all the elite teams. They are thin and lean and quick to the ball, not thick and heavy and slow to the ball. And I do not see anything in Robyn's statement that takes anything away from Shoji. Oh wait, that was the troll that said that. Never mind.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Dec 3, 2017 16:01:42 GMT -5
Assuming ross gets a scholorship, and so does casteneda, we have 3 scholorships to give. Theyll for sure be looking for a pin and possibly a middle.
I say go for 2 pins and a libero
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Post by Wolfgang on Dec 3, 2017 16:04:44 GMT -5
The culture for a lot of Dave's players and the way he recruited was two-fold. The rare Fab 50 player that came along, like Iosia and Granato. And the players that could use some time in the system. What Coach Robyn is referring to, are those players recruited that could use some time in the system before being able to contribute in matches. Dave of recent years was more accommodating to finding contributors right off the bat, however, a players character was super important to him especially players with a strong faith-based foundation. After all, these are youngsters who will be away from home for the first time. Being safe and feeling safe should be important for all teams. He used to think that finding athletes versus volleyball players was a strategy that would pay off. The way the game is being played now, specialists are the majority. And with the spread of popularity of the sport, you have a lot of players who are volleyball players versus just athletes, so you can find a lot of good players who have been playing for a long time. You even have non-middle front row specialists that only play three rotations. The strategy here is that they don't wear out fast and the back row is not in jeopardy since they won't be serving targets. That goes well with a 6-2. There is nothing wrong with bringing in players with potential that could use some time in the system, its just she is saying she will go after players who are ready to go now. Probably because the RPI is important now and pre-conference play is critical for Mid-Majors. Different philosophy. It's up to the coach. For many coaches who cannot recruit blue chippers all the time, a strategy is to go for players with potential and mold them into D1 players. I believe that has been Dave's approach. As for a 6-2, you need two setters who can think 6-2 offense. Its been around for a long time, but now it's coming back with renewed interests because they can see having multiple attackers at all times. It will really comes down to what kind of offense a coach wants. It can take a season or two to implement. Critics and backers will always be split. UCLA and USC use the 6-2 currently. You should learn how to use the quote feature properly.
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Post by koavball on Dec 3, 2017 16:05:08 GMT -5
Assuming ross gets a scholorship, and so does casteneda, we have 3 scholorships to give. Theyll for sure be looking for a pin and possibly a middle. I say go for 2 pins and a libero Ma'afala would get a scholarship before Ross
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