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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 17:25:43 GMT -5
Since it’s already obvious and they weren’t at the scrimmage I guess I can confirm tht Holly Carlton and Taylor Borup have decided to transfer as well. Carlton just needs a change. Loves Sagula and the school but wants to explore other options. Borup wants a fresh start as well however I have heard she has had trouble finding a school.
With Carlton leaving, Atherton may run a 5-1 or run a 6-2 with either Koetter or Archer. This is big for UNC as setting seems to be the issue right now. I was also at the scrimmage and have a few takes. The back row looks solid. Jacobs and Fradenburg are both libero contenders although Mia looks stronger and Hough and Moseman are solid DS players. The blocking is still strong. Esterly is going to be a force this year and Clark had some big stuffs. The offense is a work in progress because of the setting woes. Koetter felt a lot of pressure today running a 5-1 and it showed. Ava Bell is going to be a big time freshman, she can play both pins and the middle. Fields played today and had some impressive swings from the right I thought. Sagula is going to test people in different positions. However, with Cox, Harrison, and his middle transfer, a lot of offense is yet to arrive on campus.
Unc lost to JMU, split with Duke, I missed ETSA and beat South Car. However, a big reason was they were without a second setter. If Atherton can be a consistent setter and leader she will have plenty of weapons at her disposal.
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Post by berrytayy on Apr 7, 2018 18:24:06 GMT -5
Hunter just announced her commitment to UNC via her Instagram!! Welcome Hunter & #goheels
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Post by ay2013 on Apr 7, 2018 19:15:37 GMT -5
At Tawa- so much for your #1 recruiting class in 2016
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 19:16:37 GMT -5
I’m sure Hunter bought a smile to Joe’s face after the last few weeks. One more transfer that has been completed so it looks like when that is announced the roster will be final.
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Post by ay2013 on Apr 7, 2018 19:41:16 GMT -5
This team is going to struggle next year.... they barely scrapped together a winning record in the ACC last year, and now they are without their 5 leading scorers, and a decent chunk of the setting and blocking is turning over.... The ACC is going to field competitive teams next year. Almost all the teams that finishe higher than North Carolina in conference this past year will be better than they were in 2017, or at the very least probably better than North Carolina.
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Post by notwvb on Apr 7, 2018 19:50:40 GMT -5
This team is going to struggle next year.... they barely scrapped together a winning record in the ACC last year, and now they are without their 5 leading scorers, and a decent chunk of the setting and blocking is turning over.... The ACC is going to field competitive teams next year. Almost all the teams that fined higher than North Carolina in conference this past year will be better than they were in 2017, or at the very teams probably better than North Carolina. Yes, but at least the Heels don't have to mix it up in the juggernaut that is the AAC.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 20:30:15 GMT -5
I definitely think this is a “wait and see” team. On one hand, they lose a lot. They lose Nordhorn, Fricano, Leath, Scoles, Borup, Carlton, Hull, and Evans. However, each of those players had their own issues as well. However, there is a lot of potential that could put them back in the mix next year for the ACC.
Let’s start with what we have.
Back Row: Fradenburg is returning from injury. She was a steady and strong libero before she was injured. She also provided a steadiness to the team when on the court and kept them focused. The rest of the DS players have trained and are a lot better now then last season. Even Jacobs who was inconsistent seems to be much more focused and making plays she didn’t last year. The back row seems to be trending upward.
Blocking: Esterly broke the record for freshmen block assists and is returning. Her offense was also additional help at times last year. Fields has returned and she put up tremendous numbers her freshmen year and when she was able to play last year. We also introduce Raleigh Clark, a top 100 recruit who also was part of USA BIP tour winning Gold in Europe. She has had some huge blocks in spring training and has very good blocking technique. Ava Bell, who can do it all, has very good court awareness and a blocking form rare for freshmen. Also, Sagula has a very good middle coming in to be announced the next few weeks.
Setting: This area is most concerning but getting Atherton to transfer will greatly help. Koetter is a great player and team mate but her setting has been inconsistent. Missed connections and tends to not make the most accurate decisions. She does okay in a 6-2. Atherton will bring a little more to the table in this area. I do not know a ton about her other then coming out of high school she was a Top 50 recruit. I know she had to sit behind Kelley Hunter st Nebraska but to be at Nebraska and gain that experience is huge. Annabelle Archer is a freshman coming in who will also compete for playing time. She is very quick on her feet and would thrive in a 6-2. Atherton could take on a 5-1 but I think if she is in a 6-2 it will be Archer beside her.
Offense: last year the biggest void was the right side. This looks to be the same this year. There are several players that may be considered for those spots. The middle will return Esterly who showed flashes of really good offense and then the other is to be determined. Clark could play middle or right, she is strong on hitting the slide and has a strong arm. Fields is the same. Her offense has really developed and if she can consistently play, she will be big. Bell has literally played left, middle, and right this spring and excelled in every area. In fact she has played all 6 rotations. Cox is an incoming freshmen and she is athletic as can be. High hops and unreal range. Harrison is probably the best or one of the best terminators in this 2018 class and in my opinion, her offense is already collegiate level. Add in Laufenburg and LaGarde and you have solid depth at the pins that didn’t exist last year. The middle transfer that I’m not revealing yet has tremendous experience.
Based on last year, the issue was the back row. First contact. This spring, the back row has been much more solid. The issue is we cannot accurately gage everything else. Koetter has run a 5-1 and she’s simply not that type of setter. Atherton is a big deal for this team. Having just Koetter means the offense hasn’t been able to be analyzed. Add In That cox and Harrison, two stars of this class aren’t there yet and big pieces are missing. However, Ava Bell is going to be a standout freshmen for this team. Her offense and defense is spectacular. Esterly is improving offensively to go with strong blocking. Clark is emerging as a smart blocker and offensive weapon, LaGarde has provided another strength on the pin, and Fields returning is a good sign. There are a lot of moving pieces but they all are good and positive.
As for the ACC, Pitt returns everyone, they are def the favorite. However Louisville, Miami, FSU, NCSU, and Notre Dame each lose some key pieces as well.
All in all, there is a lot of hesitation and wondering how fast this team will mature. Will it be a weekend, the preseason, or will it take all season? It is a young team and it’s easy to wonder if they will mesh and mature. I think you’re looking at a team with a lot of talent and youth that will start slow but find their way. Harrison, Cox, Bell, Atherton, Clark, Laufenburg, Esterly, and Fields were all top 100 prospects. The talent is there, consistency is what is needed. Do I think we start at a top 25 level? Probably not, but who knows? The 2016 season was the same. Lost a mega class that took UNC to the elite 8 and the freshmen propelled UNC to a huge season. This year the weight rests on the freshmen and transfers. Could we end the season in the top 25? Yes, but there are a lot of factors. Team chemistry and connection are very important as well.
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Post by chancelucky on Apr 7, 2018 21:24:17 GMT -5
Fields was a top 50 player or close out of high school.
The top 25 isn't somewhere UNC's been a lot. I think in Sagula's 28 or so years there, they've only had 4 maybe 5 teams in the top 25. Interestingly, all of those teams involved Eve Rackham. Should this year's team crack the top 25, it'll be quite an accomplishment. Losing 8 non-graduating players is not easy and working withnew assistants can take time. It's not Helen Hunt movie territory, but I think one challenge will be on court leadership. The team doesn't have anyone who's made an All ACC team. I've never seen Atherton play, but it would help a lot if she can take on a leadership role with her new team, if for no other reason than she'll likely be one of the setters or possibly the setter.
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Post by trainermch on Apr 7, 2018 22:44:55 GMT -5
I definitely think this is a “wait and see” team. On one hand, they lose a lot. They lose Nordhorn, Fricano, Leath, Scoles, Borup, Carlton, Hull, and Evans. However, each of those players had their own issues as well. However, there is a lot of potential that could put them back in the mix next year for the ACC. Let’s start with what we have. Back Row: Fradenburg is returning from injury. She was a steady and strong libero before she was injured. She also provided a steadiness to the team when on the court and kept them focused. The rest of the DS players have trained and are a lot better now then last season. Even Jacobs who was inconsistent seems to be much more focused and making plays she didn’t last year. The back row seems to be trending upward. Blocking: Esterly broke the record for freshmen block assists and is returning. Her offense was also additional help at times last year. Fields has returned and she put up tremendous numbers her freshmen year and when she was able to play last year. We also introduce Raleigh Clark, a top 100 recruit who also was part of USA BIP tour winning Gold in Europe. She has had some huge blocks in spring training and has very good blocking technique. Ava Bell, who can do it all, has very good court awareness and a blocking form rare for freshmen. Also, Sagula has a very good middle coming in to be announced the next few weeks. Setting: This area is most concerning but getting Atherton to transfer will greatly help. Koetter is a great player and team mate but her setting has been inconsistent. Missed connections and tends to not make the most accurate decisions. She does okay in a 6-2. Atherton will bring a little more to the table in this area. I do not know a ton about her other then coming out of high school she was a Top 50 recruit. I know she had to sit behind Kelley Hunter st Nebraska but to be at Nebraska and gain that experience is huge. Annabelle Archer is a freshman coming in who will also compete for playing time. She is very quick on her feet and would thrive in a 6-2. Atherton could take on a 5-1 but I think if she is in a 6-2 it will be Archer beside her. Offense: last year the biggest void was the right side. This looks to be the same this year. There are several players that may be considered for those spots. The middle will return Esterly who showed flashes of really good offense and then the other is to be determined. Clark could play middle or right, she is strong on hitting the slide and has a strong arm. Fields is the same. Her offense has really developed and if she can consistently play, she will be big. Bell has literally played left, middle, and right this spring and excelled in every area. In fact she has played all 6 rotations. Cox is an incoming freshmen and she is athletic as can be. High hops and unreal range. Harrison is probably the best or one of the best terminators in this 2018 class and in my opinion, her offense is already collegiate level. Add in Laufenburg and LaGarde and you have solid depth at the pins that didn’t exist last year. The middle transfer that I’m not revealing yet has tremendous experience. Based on last year, the issue was the back row. First contact. This spring, the back row has been much more solid. The issue is we cannot accurately gage everything else. Koetter has run a 5-1 and she’s simply not that type of setter. Atherton is a big deal for this team. Having just Koetter means the offense hasn’t been able to be analyzed. Add In That cox and Harrison, two stars of this class aren’t there yet and big pieces are missing. However, Ava Bell is going to be a standout freshmen for this team. Her offense and defense is spectacular. Esterly is improving offensively to go with strong blocking. Clark is emerging as a smart blocker and offensive weapon, LaGarde has provided another strength on the pin, and Fields returning is a good sign. There are a lot of moving pieces but they all are good and positive. As for the ACC, Pitt returns everyone, they are def the favorite. However Louisville, Miami, FSU, NCSU, and Notre Dame each lose some key pieces as well. All in all, there is a lot of hesitation and wondering how fast this team will mature. Will it be a weekend, the preseason, or will it take all season? It is a young team and it’s easy to wonder if they will mesh and mature. I think you’re looking at a team with a lot of talent and youth that will start slow but find their way. Harrison, Cox, Bell, Atherton, Clark, Laufenburg, Esterly, and Fields were all top 100 prospects. The talent is there, consistency is what is needed. Do I think we start at a top 25 level? Probably not, but who knows? The 2016 season was the same. Lost a mega class that took UNC to the elite 8 and the freshmen propelled UNC to a huge season. This year the weight rests on the freshmen and transfers. Could we end the season in the top 25? Yes, but there are a lot of factors. Team chemistry and connection are very important as well. How I admire your optimism and enthusiasm for your ‘Heels. This is my favorite thread next to the Gators.
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Post by Scipio Aemilianus on Apr 7, 2018 23:11:06 GMT -5
I keep reading transfer after transfer and almost each time it's something like "love Sagula and love school just wants something different". All these transfers leaving the same year as Eve and Tyler is one hell of a crazy coincidence if it's got nothing to do with the coaches both at UNC and those who left. Like literally an absolutely amazing astonishing unbelievable random coincidence...
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Post by Longhorn20 on Apr 7, 2018 23:58:24 GMT -5
Hopefully this isn’t too soon, but how are Carlton/Borup at receiving serve? UT could use a pin who can pass.
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Post by wishinwestcoastvb on Apr 8, 2018 1:06:16 GMT -5
Hopefully this isn’t too soon, but how are Carlton/Borup at receiving serve? UT could use a pin who can pass. Borup could be a solid receiver for them, but Carlton would have a long way to go
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 8:08:03 GMT -5
Leath decided to leave before she even knew Eve was leaving. Leath has actually considered this way before. She’s from the Penn State area and wanted her career to go full circle. Scoles, Evans, Hull, and Hunter are all medical. Unc does not have a beach program and while there are risks, the beach side of things is safer after Scoles multiple concussions. That is why she is leaving and there is no guarantee she is returning to indoor anywhere. Evans is not quitting by choice. She wants to be there and play but is retiring based on medical orders. She is actually going to serve as a manager with the team and travel with them to Europe. Hull and Hunter both had concussions last year. Hull is still not recovered and decided to step away because of her health. Hunter who was never a big role decided to focus on her health and other avenues since she’s a dual athlete and step away from volleyball. With These players leaving because of their own issues, Carlton and Borup see that as an avenue for them to leave as well and let Joe rebuild. Carlton never developed into the setter the coaching staff thought she would even though she was good offensively. Borup never developed into the 6 rotation outside either as she was hampered with injury. Joe is not the issue. He’s a great coach. But, Eve did recruit a lot of these players so they may feel it would be different under the two new assistants. Simply put, some of the transfers didn’t give a lot of explanation. Their core group of friends and teammates leaving spurred them all to seek new routes. I think when you have two top players leaving and then others depart because of injury it makes the other talent and coaches begin realizing a reboot is necessary.
As for top 50, top 25, etc....UNC will have the ability on the roster. On one hand I have the pessimistic attitude that the freshmen need time and this season will require a lot of growth and maturing. On another hand, I’m optimistic and know the individual talent this team has. I think there’s a lot of possibility of where this team could be on a spectrum of last years level and previous years. Someone already mentioned it but this team needs a leader, and last year was so frustrating that whoever the leader was supposed to be disappeared and there wasn’t really one. Hopefully Sagula can establish that quickly. It’s not always about technicality but about leadership and chemistry. That’s what will make the difference in team performance.
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Post by ProfessorPlum on Apr 8, 2018 9:35:59 GMT -5
Hunter transfer is the biggest plus for Heels. That’s a big upgrade and will bring consistency and leadership. The incoming frosh are impact players but hard to believe that relying on that many will get UNC into the Top 50. If they stay healthy I think sneaking into Top 5 ACC and in the Top 60 nationally is a realistic goal.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 9:40:33 GMT -5
I think Hunter is a huge addition but I also think that having Ava Bell and Hadden LaGarde already enrolled and playing this spring is important as well. Ava looks like she will make an immediate impact and Hadden May compete for time as well.
I only know what I’ve heard about Atherton so does anyone have any insight into her and her style?
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