|
Post by ndodge on Dec 12, 2017 18:39:15 GMT -5
Well, passing Hawaii seems quite likely, at least.
|
|
|
Post by northwoods on Dec 12, 2017 19:53:55 GMT -5
Does that mean the bar/party deck for Football (and perhaps volleyball) will be completed for next year also?
|
|
|
Post by wibadgervbfan on Dec 12, 2017 20:55:19 GMT -5
Does that mean the bar/party deck for Football (and perhaps volleyball) will be completed for next year also? Reading an article about it, Shef said that it was canned at this time. link
|
|
|
Post by TuesdayGone on Dec 12, 2017 21:04:16 GMT -5
Does that mean the bar/party deck for Football (and perhaps volleyball) will be completed for next year also? On podcast Sheffield said that idea has been nixed and he wasn't happy about it.
|
|
|
Post by badgerbreath on Dec 12, 2017 21:17:35 GMT -5
Sheff's comments about Loberg were interesting in the podcast. Jon rephrased a twitter question as "Why did it take you so long to put her in?" His answer was rather involved, which implied he had thought about it a good deal.
1. He felt that Gillis was really important to team chemistry and communication. You get the feeling from his overall comments that the team was really driven, but maybe almost a little too "all in" - i.e., as a young team they put too much pressure on themselves, and they weren't playing with freedom as a result. In his opinion Gillis relieved some of that pressure. 2. Loberg was great hitting in system against a block with a seam, but too prone early on to hit straight and low into the block when out of system. Given that she was next to Rettke, she was going to see a lot of out of system balls so that wasn't good. 3. Loberg still needs to improve her positioning on the block. It was sometimes hard to defend behind her because defenders weren't sure where she was going to be. She's gotten better, but she still has a ways to go. 4. It was hard to work on these things during the season because there was so little practice time first half of the B1G season with so many midweek/weekend matches. They really only had 4 days of practice in October. After they started getting more weekend matches they had more practice and she got a lot better. 5. He remarked that some players (you get the impression relatively few) can be thrown into tough situations to sink or swim, and they will benefit from the experience. It's a better idea in other cases to nurture confidence. He felt the latter was more appropriate in Loberg's case.
It sounds like he put her in when he felt she learned to hit out of system very well, and he was sure her offensive upsides then outweighed the defensive down sides.
|
|
|
Post by TuesdayGone on Dec 12, 2017 21:19:47 GMT -5
Did y'all catch the deal with Sheff, Bates, and Haggerty where he gave up Diet Coke for the full season if both Bates and Haggerty stayed off the message boards? Hi, Molly! Don't read VT--we're all fools and none of us actually know anyting (you're still my hero, though). Well if they do read this.... "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." Theodore Roosevelt "Man in the arena" speech
|
|
|
Post by TuesdayGone on Dec 12, 2017 21:22:29 GMT -5
Sheff's comments about Loberg were interesting in the podcast. Jon rephrased a twitter question as "Why did it take you so long to put her in?" His answer was rather involved, which implied he had thought about it a good deal. 1. He felt that Gillis was really important to team chemistry and communication. You get the feeling from his overall comments that the team was really driven, but maybe almost a little too "all in" - i.e., as a young team they put too much pressure on themselves, and they weren't playing with freedom as a result. In his opinion Gillis relieved some of that pressure. 2. Loberg was great hitting in system against a block with a seam, but too prone early on to hit straight and low into the block when out of system. Given that she was next to Rettke, she was going to see a lot of out of system balls so that wasn't good. 3. Loberg still needs to improve her positioning on the block. It was sometimes hard to defend behind her because defenders weren't sure where she was going to be. She's gotten better, but she still has a ways to go. 4. It was hard to work on these things during the season because there was so little practice time first half of the B1G season with so many midweek/weekend matches. They really only had 4 days of practice in October. After they started getting more weekend matches they had more practice and she got a lot better. 5. He remarked that some players (you get the impression relatively few) can be thrown into tough situations to sink or swim, and they will benefit from the experience. It's a better idea in other cases to nurture confidence. He felt the latter was more appropriate in Loberg's case. It sounds like he put her in when he felt she learned to hit out of system very well, and he was sure her offensive upsides then outweighed the defensive down sides. The part of answer that made the most sense to me is the confidence portion. She would have struggled a lot early with the blocks, etc. She needed to learn etc......Grace is going to be a beast.
|
|
|
Post by northwoods on Dec 13, 2017 5:20:01 GMT -5
Does that mean the bar/party deck for Football (and perhaps volleyball) will be completed for next year also? On podcast Sheffield said that idea has been nixed and he wasn't happy about it. I'm just very surprised, because the deck idea benefitted football primarily, and football gets anything it wants. Guessing that radical an alteration may have run afoul of the rules governing the Field House landmark status? Anyhow, my love of the Field House party deck was just a vehicle for my ultimate goal of Beer At Volleyball Games!
|
|
|
Post by Wiswell on Dec 13, 2017 8:57:03 GMT -5
Sheff's comments about Loberg were interesting in the podcast. Jon rephrased a twitter question as "Why did it take you so long to put her in?" His answer was rather involved, which implied he had thought about it a good deal. 1. He felt that Gillis was really important to team chemistry and communication. You get the feeling from his overall comments that the team was really driven, but maybe almost a little too "all in" - i.e., as a young team they put too much pressure on themselves, and they weren't playing with freedom as a result. In his opinion Gillis relieved some of that pressure. 2. Loberg was great hitting in system against a block with a seam, but too prone early on to hit straight and low into the block when out of system. Given that she was next to Rettke, she was going to see a lot of out of system balls so that wasn't good. 3. Loberg still needs to improve her positioning on the block. It was sometimes hard to defend behind her because defenders weren't sure where she was going to be. She's gotten better, but she still has a ways to go. 4. It was hard to work on these things during the season because there was so little practice time first half of the B1G season with so many midweek/weekend matches. They really only had 4 days of practice in October. After they started getting more weekend matches they had more practice and she got a lot better. 5. He remarked that some players (you get the impression relatively few) can be thrown into tough situations to sink or swim, and they will benefit from the experience. It's a better idea in other cases to nurture confidence. He felt the latter was more appropriate in Loberg's case. It sounds like he put her in when he felt she learned to hit out of system very well, and he was sure her offensive upsides then outweighed the defensive down sides. Hmm. 1. Gillis didn't put too much pressure on herself, so that's why she played? Sorry, but I think the self-pressure levels between the two was a draw. My read from listening to the podcast, which he didn't outright say, was that there was a lack of strong leadership. I 100% agree though that she wasn't ready early in the season, but I guess I am a bit surprised that she all of a sudden got ready the last 4 games of the season, just like that. 2. Ok, but how is that different than Gillis? 3. Agree 4. Ok, how about the weeks with BTB matches? She played 1 point against NW. 1 pt! And that was a gift point for her fans. 5. Ok. Agree there. I definitely don't like the Wed-Sat matches. I don't like it for academic reasons, and I don't like it for training reasons. They should only play 2 Wednesdays a year, with their travel partners.
|
|
|
Post by rainbowbadger on Dec 13, 2017 9:30:32 GMT -5
I can’t listen to the podcast. It’s not loading on IHeartRadio.
I really wish they were on iTunes.
|
|
|
Post by Wiswell on Dec 13, 2017 9:42:24 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by badgerbreath on Dec 13, 2017 10:18:56 GMT -5
Hmm. 1. Gillis didn't put too much pressure on herself, so that's why she played? Sorry, but I think the self-pressure levels between the two was a draw. My read from listening to the podcast, which he didn't outright say, was that there was a lack of strong leadership. I 100% agree though that she wasn't ready early in the season, but I guess I am a bit surprised that she all of a sudden got ready the last 4 games of the season, just like that. Well, Sheffield's viewpoint is certainly open for criticism on that point. I also felt that Gillis's problems offensively (which are problems with confidence, IMO) actually placed more pressure on the young team. It looked to me like it weighed on Hilley's decision making a bit. But I think his point was different from that. He thought Gillis's personality and experience was an important counterweight to the personality of the other players, and allowed them to stay grounded and to play better, in his opinion. She did that through her interactions with them, not through her offense. He just didn't see Loberg as enough of an upgrade OOS to warrant losing Gillis's impact for much of the year. He waited until he was sure she would do well. The frustration for fans is always that we never get to rerun the season to see who was right.
|
|
|
Post by badgerbreath on Dec 13, 2017 10:20:07 GMT -5
I can’t listen to the podcast. It’s not loading on IHeartRadio. I really wish they were on iTunes. I agree. Love the podcast, but I don't like this format at all.
|
|
|
Post by rainbowbadger on Dec 13, 2017 10:42:34 GMT -5
Sheff's comments about Loberg were interesting in the podcast. Jon rephrased a twitter question as "Why did it take you so long to put her in?" His answer was rather involved, which implied he had thought about it a good deal. 1. He felt that Gillis was really important to team chemistry and communication. You get the feeling from his overall comments that the team was really driven, but maybe almost a little too "all in" - i.e., as a young team they put too much pressure on themselves, and they weren't playing with freedom as a result. In his opinion Gillis relieved some of that pressure. 2. Loberg was great hitting in system against a block with a seam, but too prone early on to hit straight and low into the block when out of system. Given that she was next to Rettke, she was going to see a lot of out of system balls so that wasn't good. 3. Loberg still needs to improve her positioning on the block. It was sometimes hard to defend behind her because defenders weren't sure where she was going to be. She's gotten better, but she still has a ways to go. 4. It was hard to work on these things during the season because there was so little practice time first half of the B1G season with so many midweek/weekend matches. They really only had 4 days of practice in October. After they started getting more weekend matches they had more practice and she got a lot better. 5. He remarked that some players (you get the impression relatively few) can be thrown into tough situations to sink or swim, and they will benefit from the experience. It's a better idea in other cases to nurture confidence. He felt the latter was more appropriate in Loberg's case. It sounds like he put her in when he felt she learned to hit out of system very well, and he was sure her offensive upsides then outweighed the defensive down sides. Hmm. 1. Gillis didn't put too much pressure on herself, so that's why she played? Sorry, but I think the self-pressure levels between the two was a draw. My read from listening to the podcast, which he didn't outright say, was that there was a lack of strong leadership. I 100% agree though that she wasn't ready early in the season, but I guess I am a bit surprised that she all of a sudden got ready the last 4 games of the season, just like that. 2. Ok, but how is that different than Gillis? 3. Agree 4. Ok, how about the weeks with BTB matches? She played 1 point against NW. 1 pt! And that was a gift point for her fans. 5. Ok. Agree there. I definitely don't like the Wed-Sat matches. I don't like it for academic reasons, and I don't like it for training reasons. They should only play 2 Wednesdays a year, with their travel partners. There was lack of strong leadership AND there was lack of ability to terminate OOS. Assuming Loberg and Gilly were equal OOS, he said that Gilly took up a “more predictable space” on the block and so was easier to defend behind, and Gilly provided other players with more confidence, so edge to Gilly. Once Loberg’s OOS abilities improved and her confidence grew, the balance shifted in favor of having Loberg on the court. It probably also helped that there wasn’t a ton of film on her.
|
|
|
Post by rainbowbadger on Dec 13, 2017 10:48:56 GMT -5
I can’t listen to the podcast. It’s not loading on IHeartRadio. I really wish they were on iTunes. I agree. Love the podcast, but I don't like this format at all. Finally got it working. I’m surprised nobody commented yet about the fall schedule. 1. Big Ten / ACC staring over for a new 4-year cycle, with us and Minnesota against North Carolina and Florida State. We’re hosting that opening weekend. 2. Texas coming to us. Sheff is having trouble getting other teams to come play in that one. 3. Another tourney at Marquette. So two home tourneys and another one 90 minutes away. SWEET!
|
|