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Post by swimrowvball on Feb 26, 2018 14:59:16 GMT -5
The conversation is inevitable, too many people are outraged by it and too many others are just finding out and want to either get in on the convo or learn more about the situation. Unfortunately the I think the mods were waiting for something of substance to happen to shut it down and when it did they felt it was a good time. In years past when the threads get locked they usually stay away from the front page until the following May/June when AAU would come around and everyone fighting the good fight would use that time frame to get the most exposure. This conversation is not going away any time soon this season. Should we start a fresh thread? Maybe title it "Rick Butler banned from USAV/AAU/JVA for sexual misconduct" and put quick links to all the key info (ban-related press releases, Sun-Times articles, love letters, etc.) in the lead post so that new folks can easily find it? As long as we keep the discussion respectful and don't go attacking each other, we can probably keep it open a while longer. The conversation is not going away anytime soon. One could say that it is, in fact, gaining momentum.
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Post by n00b on Feb 26, 2018 15:14:16 GMT -5
The conversation is inevitable, too many people are outraged by it and too many others are just finding out and want to either get in on the convo or learn more about the situation. Unfortunately the I think the mods were waiting for something of substance to happen to shut it down and when it did they felt it was a good time. In years past when the threads get locked they usually stay away from the front page until the following May/June when AAU would come around and everyone fighting the good fight would use that time frame to get the most exposure. This conversation is not going away any time soon this season. Should we start a fresh thread? Maybe title it "Rick Butler banned from USAV/AAU/JVA for sexual misconduct" and put quick links to all the key info (ban-related press releases, Sun-Times articles, love letters, etc.) in the lead post so that new folks can easily find it? As long as we keep the discussion respectful and don't go attacking each other, we can probably keep it open a while longer. Until a Butler supporter creates two accounts for him/herself and posts ridiculously until the thread is closed. I still never really saw what was so bad in the last one.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Feb 26, 2018 15:22:24 GMT -5
Should we start a fresh thread? Maybe title it "Rick Butler banned from USAV/AAU/JVA for sexual misconduct" and put quick links to all the key info (ban-related press releases, Sun-Times articles, love letters, etc.) in the lead post so that new folks can easily find it? As long as we keep the discussion respectful and don't go attacking each other, we can probably keep it open a while longer. Until a Butler supporter creates two accounts for him/herself and posts ridiculously until the thread is closed. I still never really saw what was so bad in the last one. That's been their MO to stifle discussion. Just start hurling insults and get the thread shut down.
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Post by BuckysHeat on Feb 26, 2018 16:00:17 GMT -5
Not trying to shut anything down but please take the Butler talk to a new thread, this one is supposed to be for 18's (of which he is finally no part of anymore) and it would really suck if this thread which is specifically for Club 18's in 2018 is locked because of it.
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Post by uncommitted on Feb 26, 2018 21:59:51 GMT -5
Not trying to shut anything down but please take the Butler talk to a new thread, this one is supposed to be for 18's (of which he is finally no part of anymore) and it would really suck if this thread which is specifically for Club 18's in 2018 is locked because of it. Amen. Preach.
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Post by azvolleydad on Feb 27, 2018 12:04:35 GMT -5
Pools are up for SCVA NQ. Lot's of top SoCal teams will match up on day one.
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Post by azvolleydad on Feb 27, 2018 12:31:38 GMT -5
Once again SCVA jacks up a tournament... (especially this seeding) Pools are up for SCVA NQ. Lot's of top SoCal teams will match up on day one.
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Post by azvolleydad on Feb 27, 2018 12:34:33 GMT -5
Once again SCVA jacks up a tournament... (especially this seeding) Pools are up for SCVA NQ. Lot's of top SoCal teams will match up on day one. <iframe width="29.440000000000055" height="5.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 29.44px; height: 5.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 0px; top: 0px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_55034385"></iframe> <iframe width="29.440000000000055" height="5.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 29.44px; height: 5.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1402px; top: -252px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_450268"></iframe> <iframe width="29.440000000000055" height="5.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 29.44px; height: 5.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 10px; top: -16px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_56080458"></iframe> <iframe width="29.440000000000055" height="5.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 29.44px; height: 5.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1402px; top: -16px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_78108151"></iframe> Trying again -- first response had weird formatting: I know that we all constantly complain about NQ seeding, but this one is a head scratcher. Team that is currently first in SCVA standings is seeded far below the teams in 3rd, 5th, and 11th. Odd.
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Post by azvolleydad on Feb 27, 2018 12:35:46 GMT -5
Not sure what's up with formatting.
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Post by BuckysHeat on Feb 27, 2018 12:53:14 GMT -5
Who got the bid (or bids?) in Atlanta this weekend? TAV for sure. 1st Alliance also if there were two. There were two up for grabs in 18 open. For some reason AES has not finished, they may not have needed the 3rd place or 5th pace matches since neither TAV nor 1st alliance had previously qualified so the final standings may be stuck in limbo. 18 Open R4ChampIn 18 USA there were three bids which went to IL HPSTL 18 Elite, Mintonette m.81 and TAV 18 Blue. Coming up this weekend for qualifiers are SCVA (3 bids); also are Golden State Q (3 bids) and Mizuno Boston Volleyball Festival (2 bids). Schedules for GSQ and Boston are not up yet but they will be at: BostonGolden State(Hopefully.....) Boston is Sportswrench, GSQ is Tm2Sign SCVA Team lists are not up for either Boston (teams competing last year include NEb Elite, Excel, Triangle, ECJ, OTVA, EC Power and Dynasty) or GSQ (Encore, Exceleration, Absolute for sure); A4 has the top seed at SCVA followed by Coast, Momentous, SG Elite, Forza and Laguna Beach. Top 30 prepvb teams in action: SCVA: SG Elite, A4, TStreet, Laguna Beach, Coast GSQ: Absolute Boston: Triangle Non-qualifier tourney this weekend is the Showcase in Wisconsin Dells. Teams in play include SPVB 18 Elite, Minn Select, and Illini Elite 18. This is still a 3 day tourney but could easily be cut down to 2 days. Eliminate the power pools, have 12 lambs to the slaughters pools and then play gold, silver, bronze, copper pools on the second day based exclusively on first day pool finish. Tour of Texas final stop is going on in Houston for the final 24 qualified teams. Top seed in the gold bracket is Tx Tornados followed in order by TAV 18 Black, SA Magic and Asics Willowbrook. Tornados and TAV have already qualified in 18 Open.
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Post by jcvball22 on Feb 27, 2018 13:51:32 GMT -5
SCVA schedule is posted. All pools have a 2 pm start time on Friday.
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Post by n00b on Feb 27, 2018 14:13:04 GMT -5
Team list for Boston: sportwrench.com/#/public/events/18013Notable Open teams: AVC Clev Rox 18N Boomers 18 Black Eric Legacy 18-Elite MiElite 18 Mizuno NKYVC 18 1 TSUNAMI OT 18 T. Aaron TAV 18 Blue Top Select 18 Elite Blake Triangle 18 Black Tribe 18 Elite Sebastian WVA 18 Black
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Post by BuckysHeat on Feb 27, 2018 14:55:35 GMT -5
Team list for Boston: sportwrench.com/#/public/events/18013Notable Open teams: AVC Clev Rox 18N Boomers 18 Black Eric Legacy 18-Elite MiElite 18 Mizuno NKYVC 18 1 TSUNAMI OT 18 T. Aaron TAV 18 Blue Top Select 18 Elite Blake Triangle 18 Black Tribe 18 Elite Sebastian WVA 18 Black Damn that is different from last year, nice field! With two bids and Legacy already having theirs it should fall to Top Select, Triangle and OTVA.
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Post by blackiechan1999 on Feb 27, 2018 15:15:06 GMT -5
Team list for Boston: sportwrench.com/#/public/events/18013Notable Open teams: AVC Clev Rox 18N Boomers 18 Black Eric Legacy 18-Elite MiElite 18 Mizuno NKYVC 18 1 TSUNAMI OT 18 T. Aaron TAV 18 Blue Top Select 18 Elite Blake Triangle 18 Black Tribe 18 Elite Sebastian WVA 18 Black I thought TAV 18 Black was the open team.
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Post by eazy on Feb 27, 2018 15:56:31 GMT -5
Non-qualifier tourney this weekend is the Showcase in Wisconsin Dells. Teams in play include SPVB 18 Elite, Minn Select, and Illini Elite 18. This is still a 3 day tourney but could easily be cut down to 2 days. Eliminate the power pools, have 12 lambs to the slaughters pools and then play gold, silver, bronze, copper pools on the second day based exclusively on first day pool finish. I kind of like the set-up. For teams in the power pool you get good competition all 3 days, even if you do play a team more than once. For most teams outside the power pool you get good competition for at least 2 days (ish). For the top few seeds that could have made the power pool but didn't, then it might be a bit of a wasted first and second day if you easily go 6-0. Then if they lose to a power pool team first thing Sunday morning, you might not have gotten many competitive matches in, if any.
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