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Post by volleyfan808 on May 6, 2018 12:46:48 GMT -5
Hawaii was right there but way too many errors for Hawaii’s top pairing, and that is not Hall’s fault. All I am saying is, Hall should have switched up the Flight Pairs in the first three flights. Thinking the first two flights would have a better chance of winning their flight if they were moved down one flight, with the Third Flight moving up to the First Flight. Just doing one change would have done it for both of Hawaii's last two matches. Switching flight 1 and flight 2.
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Post by wahinefan on May 6, 2018 12:48:21 GMT -5
Congrats Hawaii Sandbows on a great season. I think just switching Flight 1 and Flight 2 would have been the optimal strategy. If we had a Nina as coach, she would have done it, and we'd probably have a trophy. That's why she has two beach NCs and Hall has none. Hawaii had the players this year, they just weren't played in the correct order when facing the cream of the crop in this tourney. That extra calculation could have been the solution to win it all. BUT GREAT JOB FOR THE ATHLETES. I totally agree, Congrats Hawaii Sandbows on a good season. Would have been a great, and glorious season, if you had another Head Coach though. GREAT JOB BY THE ATHLETES, NOT a Great Job by the Head Coach, though. Any other Head Coach would have changed the order of the Flight Pairs. Why do you think Dave Shoji was disappointed in the team fall practice when he was attending the Olympics, reason Hall was running the practices in his absence. Enough said.
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Post by fetchin on May 6, 2018 12:49:47 GMT -5
All I am saying is, Hall should have switched up the Flight Pairs in the first three flights. Thinking the first two flights would have a better chance of winning their flight if they were moved down one flight, with the Third Flight moving up to the First Flight. Just doing one change would have done it for both of Hawaii's last two matches. Switching flight 1 and flight 2. You cant switch in this tournament , after certain dates switching stops I believe.
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Post by wahinefan on May 6, 2018 12:53:32 GMT -5
Can't move threes to ones Why not, the threes were the ones at the beginning of the year. In fact, at the beginning of the year, Flight one was Flight Two, Flight Two was Flight Three, and Flight Three was Flight One. Hall should have gone back to that.
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Post by socal3 on May 6, 2018 13:00:29 GMT -5
That was a great match! Hawaii coaches did a great job of managing their personnel. In the end, if you put yourself in a position to win you’ve done your job and Hawaii was playing it down to the last court.
Can I take a minute to question the herd mentality. I do not think Sarah Sponcil’s hands are amazing. I think they are too slow even for the beach and if any other player served up that deep dish, we’d hear a whistle. But because Stein has deemed her the best setter EVER of all time (or something like that) and Holly M has repeated that a bazillion times, everyone (even the refs) have bought it.
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Post by fetchin on May 6, 2018 13:16:08 GMT -5
Ya Metzger might be going a little overboard there and also playing the same twins story like 4 times, okay enough. That was a great match! Hawaii coaches did a great job of managing their personnel. In the end, if you put yourself in a position to win you’ve done your job and Hawaii was playing it down to the last court. Can I take a minute to question the herd mentality. I do not think Sarah Sponcil’s hands are amazing. I think they are too slow even for the beach and if any other player served up that deep dish, we’d hear a whistle. But because Stein has deemed her the best setter EVER of all time (or something like that) and Holly M has repeated that a bazillion times, everyone (even the refs) have bought it.
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Post by alhorford90 on May 6, 2018 13:18:36 GMT -5
Let's go Seminoles
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Post by fetchin on May 6, 2018 13:23:43 GMT -5
go bruins!
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Post by rainmaker on May 6, 2018 13:25:49 GMT -5
NCAA rules dictate teams can only be moved up or down one flight. To prevent sandbagging. Whatever the university dbmitted pretourney, that lineup stays. Not defending the coach, just pointing out limited options.
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Post by Cruz'n on May 6, 2018 13:39:43 GMT -5
Wow, some tough, and mean, Hawaii fans here. Totally trashing their coach because he didn't sandbag the final (even though, as someone pointed out here, illegal anyway).
Hawaii had great season, made it to Gulf Shores, had GREAT win against Pepperdine. Damn exciting match against UCLA, narrowly lost. A couple more points and they'd be playing FSU for the championship.
I'd say a pretty good season for the Bows. I hope they come back strong next year.
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Post by fetchin on May 6, 2018 13:51:03 GMT -5
May's lack of experience and not training year round is hurting ucla:/
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Post by Not Me on May 6, 2018 14:00:21 GMT -5
I’ll admit I haven’t watched a ton of collegiate beach.
I am stunned by the difference in the level of play between the 4th team and the 5th team.
There are some bad plays on the 5s. It is like watching JV volleyball.
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Post by GoUCLA on May 6, 2018 14:14:03 GMT -5
May's lack of experience and not training year round is hurting ucla:/ Yeah, she can either be good or really bad. She'll be good by the end of her career though.
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Post by fetchin on May 6, 2018 14:14:28 GMT -5
Most top teams 5's would get beat 21-10 by most top teams ones/twos
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Post by rainbowbadger on May 6, 2018 14:19:10 GMT -5
So what are the rules for rearranging the flights during the season? I’ve read that you can only move up/down one between dials, but are there other rules regarding wins/losses that require you to move flights up/down, or is it just coaches’ whim?
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