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Post by wyomingpancake on Jan 29, 2019 15:04:42 GMT -5
I believe you are one of the poll voters now, because these are absolutely horse s'h'i't. As someone who has always looked at strength of schedule and analyzation of performance, these rankings are as upsetting as the smile in your photo. You place a team, that just got stabbed and spit on in 3 by NCC, in the top 10. Not just that, but you then decide to place an unproven SVU team at 11 above not just Benedictine (Defeat Quincy in 4) but MSOE who took UCSC to 5 and prevailed. That being mentioned, having Cal Lutheran at 10 after giving an embarrassing performance in the 5th set against UCSB. You mention they have a solid resume......a 4 setter against NCC? Considerable. What is outside of that...……...a sweep of Marian...……..Illinois Tech...………..Arcadia? ? Continue proving that the AVCA continues to sham on actual talented teams. Stevenson can be considered the 4th seed, just the way they can take a beating in early sets, and come back as nothing happened. Where as New Paltz loses to a subpar NAIA team. I will give you credit with the Endicott ranking. Having them so high purely based off "court presence" Their "presence" was not enough for 2/3 ranked matchups. Let alone Kean being highly ranked for no legitimate reason (not surprised now after reading this 'hot take'). See you next week ))) You must of had a rough day It was overall a decent day. Just ashamed that I got to witness why the AVCA polls in D3 are not taken seriously. Poll voters like this.
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Post by d3vbfan on Jan 29, 2019 15:05:24 GMT -5
SUNY Poly’s coach should no longer be able to vote after keeping Kean 4th this week After not voting for week one.
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Post by bbk on Jan 29, 2019 15:29:26 GMT -5
and why do polls matter again?
Also 7 v 9 matchup that was scheduled for tonight ppd to due Winter Vortex. Benedictine hosting North Central.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 15:51:08 GMT -5
You must of had a rough day It was overall a decent day. Just ashamed that I got to witness why the AVCA polls in D3 are not taken seriously. Poll voters like this. Rob clearly takes the polls seriously as he is publicly giving reasons for why he put teams in. It's some welcome transparency in the polls that we generally don't get from other coaches. I would suggest posting what you think the poll should be since you say that you analyze SOS and performance so closely.
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Post by Scipio Aemilianus on Jan 29, 2019 17:39:29 GMT -5
I believe you are one of the poll voters now, because these are absolutely horse s'h'i't. As someone who has always looked at strength of schedule and analyzation of performance, these rankings are as upsetting as the smile in your photo. You place a team, that just got stabbed and spit on in 3 by NCC, in the top 10. Not just that, but you then decide to place an unproven SVU team at 11 above not just Benedictine (Defeat Quincy in 4) but MSOE who took UCSC to 5 and prevailed. That being mentioned, having Cal Lutheran at 10 after giving an embarrassing performance in the 5th set against UCSB. You mention they have a solid resume......a 4 setter against NCC? Considerable. What is outside of that...……...a sweep of Marian...……..Illinois Tech...………..Arcadia? ? Continue proving that the AVCA continues to sham on actual talented teams. Stevenson can be considered the 4th seed, just the way they can take a beating in early sets, and come back as nothing happened. Where as New Paltz loses to a subpar NAIA team. I will give you credit with the Endicott ranking. Having them so high purely based off "court presence" Their "presence" was not enough for 2/3 ranked matchups. Let alone Kean being highly ranked for no legitimate reason (not surprised now after reading this 'hot take'). See you next week ))) You must of had a rough day Even I think this guy is being a little bit too harsh here...
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Post by Scipio Aemilianus on Jan 29, 2019 17:42:16 GMT -5
Instead of ripping on each other can't we just go back to the way things were and rip on Kean? New concept but I’ll give it a try for the first time. Kean is ranked 10th?!? Double digits?? Wow that’s not good. How many teams make the final at Kean? 4? Even at 8 they still wouldn’t make it according to the poll! Is it time to panic in Keanville??
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Post by Shoot talker on Jan 29, 2019 18:46:55 GMT -5
You must of had a rough day Even I think this guy is being a little bit too harsh here... This is a huge admission...
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Post by Shoot talker on Jan 29, 2019 18:49:58 GMT -5
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Post by DeepDisher on Jan 29, 2019 20:31:36 GMT -5
All of your wins have come against overranked teams and you got swept by Lakeland. Settle down young charger! Yeah I think LBC is trash and overrated this year. I don’t think Miller will get votes for all American this year. They are a very well disciplined team and have a phenomenal coach who knows how to use his players and with nate miller a First Team All-American coming back that will help them a lot wouldn't say that they are overrated at all.
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Post by redbird12 on Jan 29, 2019 21:42:32 GMT -5
I believe you are one of the poll voters now, because these are absolutely horse s'h'i't. As someone who has always looked at strength of schedule and analyzation of performance, these rankings are as upsetting as the smile in your photo. You place a team, that just got stabbed and spit on in 3 by NCC, in the top 10. Not just that, but you then decide to place an unproven SVU team at 11 above not just Benedictine (Defeat Quincy in 4) but MSOE who took UCSC to 5 and prevailed. That being mentioned, having Cal Lutheran at 10 after giving an embarrassing performance in the 5th set against UCSB. You mention they have a solid resume......a 4 setter against NCC? Considerable. What is outside of that...……...a sweep of Marian...……..Illinois Tech...………..Arcadia? ? Continue proving that the AVCA continues to sham on actual talented teams. Stevenson can be considered the 4th seed, just the way they can take a beating in early sets, and come back as nothing happened. Where as New Paltz loses to a subpar NAIA team. I will give you credit with the Endicott ranking. Having them so high purely based off "court presence" Their "presence" was not enough for 2/3 ranked matchups. Let alone Kean being highly ranked for no legitimate reason (not surprised now after reading this 'hot take'). See you next week ))) I'm sorry that you feel this way. Luckily a ton of this weeks match-ups will help see who is for real and who is a pretender
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Post by proudd3mommy on Jan 29, 2019 21:59:12 GMT -5
Yeah I think LBC is trash and overrated this year. I don’t think Miller will get votes for all American this year. They are a very well disciplined team and have a phenomenal coach who knows how to use his players and with nate miller a First Team All-American coming back that will help them a lot wouldn't say that they are overrated at all. LBC isn't really what comes to mind when you think of well disciplined. Springfield and Stevens seem to be some of the more well-disciplined teams in D3 not really LBC. I'm sure they will have a great season and all but in the grand scheme of things rankings 7-15 are almost irrelevant as championship contenders. Overrated or Underrated doesn't really matter, they're not going to win it all.
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Post by bigguj9 on Jan 30, 2019 1:33:38 GMT -5
They are a very well disciplined team and have a phenomenal coach who knows how to use his players and with nate miller a First Team All-American coming back that will help them a lot wouldn't say that they are overrated at all. LBC isn't really what comes to mind when you think of well disciplined. Springfield and Stevens seem to be some of the more well-disciplined teams in D3 not really LBC. I'm sure they will have a great season and all but in the grand scheme of things rankings 7-15 are almost irrelevant as championship contenders. Overrated or Underrated doesn't really matter, they're not going to win it all. To be fair, no teams are more "disciplined" than Springfield and Stevens. They are the top 2 teams for good reason. Pertaining to winning the championship, you said that the 7-15 ranks won't win, but can't you just stretch that to no one will beat Springfield if you have the logic of absolutes? You never know when there will be a massive upset that no one saw coming in a million years
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Post by proudd3mommy on Jan 30, 2019 9:23:35 GMT -5
Unfortunately, D3 Men's volleyball is not anything like NCAA March Madness, REAL TRUE upsets are rare. In basketball, a team ranked 1-4 can lose to a team ranked 7-15 and it's not unfathomable but in D3 Men's volleyball, all a game of ranked opponents means is that it might go more than 3 sets.
Also, an upset and Winning the whole thing are vastly different.
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Post by Scipio Aemilianus on Jan 30, 2019 10:16:37 GMT -5
If you’re curious as to why teams ranked 6-15 are sometimes considered as not championship contenders, just look at past NCAA Tournament results.
Look at how often a team outside the top 3 seeds has even made the final. Look at how many times the 1 seed hasn’t won it all. When you consider that upsets do happen in sports all the time, it’s even more surprising.
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Post by mustangsfan16 on Jan 30, 2019 15:03:55 GMT -5
1. Springfield- Until someone in D3 beats them 2. Stevens- More impressive resume at this point, but not the biggest dog in the yard 3. Carthage- excited to see them take on Cal Lu 4. New Paltz- Idle week; Idle ranking 5. Stevenson- battle tested with win over NCC looking better than ever 6. North Central- although they lost to Stevens; have tested themeselves more than Dominican to this point 7. Dominican- need to see them against top level competition 8. Endicott- Big jump, but I was impressed with their on court product against unfavorable results 9. Kean- rough weekend- need to capitalize on their tougher scheduling from last year 10. Cal Lutheran- loss to UCSC is big blow; but overall have better resume to this point 11. Southern Virginia- ho hum week- product of those around them moving more 12. Benedictine- *See southern virgina* 13. MSOE- Want to see results against D3 opponents 14. Lancaster Bible- result over Arcadia was good- esp. with others producing in lieu of Miller 15. UCSC- win over Cal Lu puts them back on the block Others receiving consideration: Vassar, Arcadia, Elms, SJC I believe you are one of the poll voters now, because these are absolutely horse s'h'i't. As someone who has always looked at strength of schedule and analyzation of performance, these rankings are as upsetting as the smile in your photo. You place a team, that just got stabbed and spit on in 3 by NCC, in the top 10. Not just that, but you then decide to place an unproven SVU team at 11 above not just Benedictine (Defeat Quincy in 4) but MSOE who took UCSC to 5 and prevailed. That being mentioned, having Cal Lutheran at 10 after giving an embarrassing performance in the 5th set against UCSB. You mention they have a solid resume......a 4 setter against NCC? Considerable. What is outside of that...……...a sweep of Marian...……..Illinois Tech...………..Arcadia? ? Continue proving that the AVCA continues to sham on actual talented teams. Stevenson can be considered the 4th seed, just the way they can take a beating in early sets, and come back as nothing happened. Where as New Paltz loses to a subpar NAIA team. I will give you credit with the Endicott ranking. Having them so high purely based off "court presence" Their "presence" was not enough for 2/3 ranked matchups. Let alone Kean being highly ranked for no legitimate reason (not surprised now after reading this 'hot take'). See you next week ))) As someone who has spent a significant amount of time around Rob in his volleyball career (former coach so admittedly bias). I'm not sure there is anyone who consistently shows more passion or effort towards the division 3 landscape of men's volleyball. He takes everything he does seriously, he works hard to try and grow the game and his rankings have legitimacy due to all of the above. By the way, smile is good, not great, but certainly not upsetting.
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