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Post by VT Five-0 on Aug 8, 2018 0:10:57 GMT -5
Why are people even ranking Washington in the top 20? They were eliminated in the second round last year (hyped then) and lost so many players to graduation. Just silly. Actually they shouldn't have been ranked in the top 20 even last year with all their veterans. I’m watching you. |
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Post by volleyca on Aug 8, 2018 1:04:53 GMT -5
Will Sweet pass on SR?
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Post by alt on Aug 8, 2018 1:12:12 GMT -5
Sarcasm or are you smoking crack? If we get Bruna cleared watch out! Not sarcasm. Poulter hasn’t shown an ability to win when she shouldn’t. She came out on the right side of a couple close matches last December, but until there’s an indication that she can do that again, I’m not putting the Illini anywhere near the top ten. At some point, she’s going to have to be more than “an elite physical specimen” or “an incredibly athletic setter.” She needs to be a winner. So Kobe Bryant was crap because the last few seasons of his NBA career the Lakers were not great.............?? Shhh your comments are just wrong, how do you expect one player to win a match. Just for your info setters do not score many points in a game sir, hitters make up majority of the point......................how do you think a setter can win a game for a team..............please explain. Your statement does not make any sense. Please understand the game if your going to make comments |
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Post by notpriddy (COIF) on Aug 8, 2018 4:40:04 GMT -5
This thread seems to have brought out the trolls from under the bridges where they live.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 4:43:11 GMT -5
She can't win on her own. Doesn't matter how perfect your sets are if you don't have the hitters to terminate. We upgraded at the second MB position and 6 rotation pro OH in Bruna will be a huge upgrade at one of our pins. Once she's cleared , we can revisit this convo. I would argue Team USA disagrees with you about Jordyn being a winner since they selected her to the Pan Am Cup squad, the ONLY collegian on a team of pros. Yeah she was a really good water girl. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 4:55:18 GMT -5
Not sarcasm. Poulter hasn’t shown an ability to win when she shouldn’t. She came out on the right side of a couple close matches last December, but until there’s an indication that she can do that again, I’m not putting the Illini anywhere near the top ten. At some point, she’s going to have to be more than “an elite physical specimen” or “an incredibly athletic setter.” She needs to be a winner. Seriously, you should have left everyone thinking it was clever sarcasm. Now it's clear from your explanation that you were indeed either smoking crack or you don't have the slightest clue how the game of volleyball is played...you know, as in won or lost by a team. In which case, your tenure on the VT Poll group should be seriously in question. I think I'll go with the opinion of the WNT coaches, Russ Rose, most knowledgeable followers of VB and my own lying eyes before listening to any more of your "deep thoughts" about Poulter. I love how people always use, "she can't do it alone," when their setter is mediocre or underperforming, as if an amazing leader at the setting position can't make a difference lol. Poor Poulter, surrounded by so many scrubs... Good setters make lemonade and find ways to get it done. Like I said, if Poulter can prove that those two five-set wins last December weren't flukes this season, I'll revisit the topic. Until then, she's been pretty average through her first three seasons. She's always been excellent individually, but as a floor general/setter/leader/winner, she hasn't lived up to the hype and I don't know how anyone can argue otherwise. I know her freshman season wasn't easy with all the team drama, and perhaps she couldn't connect with Hambly to get the most out of herself, but she's now removed from all that. No more excuses for an athlete with such a ridiculously high ceiling athletically and technically. Stop lowering the bar for your best player. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 4:56:26 GMT -5
Not sarcasm. Poulter hasn’t shown an ability to win when she shouldn’t. She came out on the right side of a couple close matches last December, but until there’s an indication that she can do that again, I’m not putting the Illini anywhere near the top ten. At some point, she’s going to have to be more than “an elite physical specimen” or “an incredibly athletic setter.” She needs to be a winner. She can't win on her own. Doesn't matter how perfect your sets are if you don't have the hitters to terminate. We upgraded at the second MB position and 6 rotation pro OH in Bruna will be a huge upgrade at one of our pins. Once she's cleared , we can revisit this convo. Y'all need a professional OH who is serving an illegal doping suspension for Poulter to win? Lol. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 5:00:43 GMT -5
I stopped reading after Florida @ 3. Explain? I can’t. In retrospect I’m not sure what I was thinking there. Something about Kramer and Hammond and Hall and Warner. But they have too many new people. Wait, what...? Standing by your opinion is one thing, but it's quite another to say, "yeahhhhh idk I didn't really put in the effort." |
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Post by jwvolley on Aug 8, 2018 5:04:54 GMT -5
I can’t. In retrospect I’m not sure what I was thinking there. Something about Kramer and Hammond and Hall and Warner. But they have too many new people. Wait, what...? Standing by your opinion is one thing, but it's quite another to say, "yeahhhhh idk I didn't really put in the effort." Very curious what your list ended up as |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Aug 8, 2018 5:26:46 GMT -5
I can’t. In retrospect I’m not sure what I was thinking there. Something about Kramer and Hammond and Hall and Warner. But they have too many new people. Wait, what...? Standing by your opinion is one thing, but it's quite another to say, "yeahhhhh idk I didn't really put in the effort." I put in plenty of effort. I’m saying that, upon reflection after a few days of NOT staring at the list, and upon reading the discussion on this thread and elsewhere, I’m now questioning my logic in putting Florida ahead of Texas and Minnesota. Especially when “new personnel” was my logic in ranking Stanford over Nebraska and putting PSU farther down right now than where I think they’ll finish the season. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 6:18:20 GMT -5
Wait, what...? Standing by your opinion is one thing, but it's quite another to say, "yeahhhhh idk I didn't really put in the effort." Very curious what your list ended up as Full disclosure: | 1. | Nebraska | I'll be surprised if they lose a match before December. Calling it now: Sweet will be a First-Team All-American. | | 2. | Stanford | Meh. | | 3. | Kentucky | If they had stronger options at middle or OPP, I would've put them at #2, but they still have the best OH/S trio in the country and Curry is going to be excellent. | | 4. | Texas | The addition of Eggleston, who helps cover nearly all Texas' potential weaknesses, was significant. | | 5. | PSU | Rose always has his team ready to compete, and I'm not betting against them. Way too much talent coming in + Leath coming home means they won't have to lean on as many freshmen as initially thought. Plus, Detering will be gone, thank god. | | 6. | USC | Lanier is the best player in the country. | | 7. | Florida | Hall is really really good, King is going to be a real monster, and Hammons appears to have had a strong spring. | | 8. | Colorado | Before we learned that Shebby isn't on the roster, I thought that Shebby, Smith, Abu, and Deluzio were one of the best cores of any team out there and I had high hopes. | | 9. | Wisconsin | Assumed that Haggerty won't be able to play a six-rotation role because the staff has lied about her status, condition, recovery before. Rettke is a NPOY candidate. Really hope Hilley got better. | | 10. | Minnesota | Unanswered questions at M2, L2, and libero. Unsure about their ability to pass well enough so SSS can run the offense she wants to run. Samedy is a NPOY candidate. | | 11. | BYU | Miller was really bad last year, and I don't know if she's going to be able to complement VJP enough to make up for their weaknesses in the middle and on the right. Lake is my favorite bro in the country though. Also ranked them here before I knew that Hamson tore her ACL, and I hoped for her to have improved enough to play a larger role this season. | | 12. | Creighton | I think Kloth, Winters, that kid who redshirted, and Witt are going to be really tough. KBB has proven that she's one of the best trainers out there too. | | 13. | Oregon | Great recruiting class, seems to have decided on a better system to get their best athletes hitting the slide more often, passing should be outstanding. If LVW plays at her 2016 level, look out. | | 14. | Baylor | Lots of potential with Lockin, Pressley, and Milana building on a strong 2017 campaign. | | 15. | UCLA | Wanted to put them higher with May, Mosser, Muno (knee?), and Gates returning, but I fully intend on Sealy confusing us all with some lineup ridiculousness early on. | | 16. | CSU | Runnels, PHJ, Hillyer, Oleksak... enough said. I predict Runnels will have an All-America-caliber season. | | 17. | Illinois | No further comment. | | 18. | Pitt | Love this team. Williams, Markovic, VanBuskirk, and Akeo are all underrated IMO. | | 19. | Louisville | I think DBK will have this team even more improved in her second season. | | 20. | Washington State | They return a ton of solid players. Dirige is very good. | | 21. | Marquette | Barber, Rosenthal, Speckman are good but all limited in some way. I think Konovodoff is really underrated. A good team that should challenge for the Big East title. | | 22. | Iowa State | I like Schaben, and you know Hillegas is going to be great. | | 23. | Georgia | How are people overlooking Caesar, Ritchie, and Donovan... | | 24. | Michigan | Idk, not really sold on whether the freshmen can fill the holes in the lineup. Hoping to see good things from Malinowski. | | 25. | Auburn | I think this team will surprise people. |
- I didn't rank WKU because anyone who did their research shouldn't. Cavanaugh and Lucas are massive losses.
- I didn't rank Purdue because I think they're going to struggle and I'm not sure that Atkinson can handle being THE option.
- I didn't rank San Diego because I think Gengenbacher is a huge loss that they can't replace.
- I didn't rank Cal Poly because I think Nelson is a huge loss that they can't replace, plus they lost Nieman and Greisen.
- I didn't rank Washington because I got Auburn/Georgia in my head early and couldn't get them out, but they were a very close 26th for me in this preseason poll because I'm a big Bajema fan, I think Drechsel helps out a lot, and you know they'll block well.
- I didn't rank Utah because I don't think they'll be able to replace the production of Anae, Trueman, and Luafalemana. Maybe Barton can do it? Love Choy though.
- I didn't rank Wichita State because I think Lehman is a massive loss that they can't replace.
- I didn't rank Hawaii because I don't really think Granato can do it all by herself.
- I didn't rank Missouri because I don't think they are going to be good, frankly, even with a new daddy on the staff.
- I didn't rank Oklahoma because I don't think they are going to be good, frankly, even with a new daddy on the staff.
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Post by BuckysHeat on Aug 8, 2018 6:22:59 GMT -5
She can't win on her own. Doesn't matter how perfect your sets are if you don't have the hitters to terminate. We upgraded at the second MB position and 6 rotation pro OH in Bruna will be a huge upgrade at one of our pins. Once she's cleared , we can revisit this convo. Y'all need a professional OH who is serving an illegal doping suspension for Poulter to win? Lol. About time somebody called it what it is. |
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Post by bluepenquin on Aug 8, 2018 6:29:01 GMT -5
Why are people even ranking Washington in the top 20? They were eliminated in the second round last year (hyped then) and lost so many players to graduation. Just silly. If a serious question - for me, they have 10 senior aces on their roster, far more than any other team outside the top 25. When evaluating all the rosters, putting Washington in the top 20 is an easy choice for me. 'eliminated in the second round last year' has no bearing on how good they would be this year. Picking one game out of 30 to define the quality of a team is a bad idea. They finished last year #8 in Pablo - essentially the 8th best team last year - although given what they lost to graduation, that Pablo rating has very little impact on how good they will be this year. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 6:30:17 GMT -5
Stanford was my #2 and it was a close choice between the two, ultimately the deciding factor for me came down to who I have more faith in developing a #1 worthy product by season’s start... McCutcheon or Hambly. Both squads return the majority of their stars and it’ll come down to the correct slotting of role players. Show me the end of the season and I’ll show you a potential Nebraska #1 vote, but until Nicklin Hames proves her mettle I placed them at #6. Do we all remember the VERT Challenge without Kelly Hunter last season? It could be equally rough waters Week 1. They’ll settle into their groove though, I anticipate this being my lowest ranking for them all season. McCutcheon, for me, is one of the best coaches out there. He's a master at adjusting on the fly. What does he do that makes him a "master" at adjusting in-match? |
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Post by jwvolley on Aug 8, 2018 6:45:23 GMT -5
Considering Miller is probably the libero for the next few years after Maloney leaves, it would be in the Huskers’ best interest to have her on the court as much as possible in 2018. Sun being subbed out in the back row doesn’t mean she will all of a sudden not have to pass a ball until next year.
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