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Post by hwnstunner on Oct 28, 2019 13:27:24 GMT -5
Yes, I'd say so. We might even bounce up with a split just because of UCSB and Cal Poly being so high. The real test will be taking care of UC Davis, UC Riverside on the road, and CSUN and LBSU at home. Unfortunately tho, none of these teams will help Hawaii's RPI. They'll bring it down. So at all costs, Hawaii needs to win out in order to host. Barring a 0-8. 1-7, maybe 2-6 finish, Hawaii is in the NCAAs. I'm actually really concerned about the Davis match; losing to Davis would end any hosting opportunity.... Yes it would, but on the bright side for Hawaii, its very simple. Win six games and you win the BWC and can potentially host the first round of the NCAAs. Anything less and barring a meltdown, we're still in. I'm really hoping Hawaii can go 2-0 this weekend. It gives major perspective and meaning to the final four games. UC Davis is interesting to me, they played lights out against Hawaii in Hawaii, but were duds against Cal Poly and UCSB at home. Go figure. Sometimes I think this Hawaii team plays way better in conference on the road than at home. Case in point, steamrolling through Fullerton and UCI.
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Post by haw2991 on Oct 28, 2019 13:29:02 GMT -5
Haha I guess I just don't fully understand RPI. Being penalized for winning seems odd, even if the opponents RPI sucks. Is our RPI gonna drop at the end of the season when we play equally awful RPI opponents CSUN and LBSU!? Yes. Though the drop will not be as significant.
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Post by hwnstunner on Oct 28, 2019 13:32:02 GMT -5
Haha I guess I just don't fully understand RPI. Being penalized for winning seems odd, even if the opponents RPI sucks. Is our RPI gonna drop at the end of the season when we play equally awful RPI opponents CSUN and LBSU!? Theoretically, it'll boost up this weekend if Hawaii splits and most definitely if we sweep. But from that point on Davis, Riverside, CSUN and LBSU will cause our RPI to drop. The only thing that can keep Hawaii in the Top 16 IMO, is if Hawaii wins out. UCSB and Cal Poly need to win out and avoid being upset as well (although they will play each other once), and we'd like Baylor, UCLA, Missouri, San Diego, and Washington to all finish their seasons strong. Overall, this has been a great schedule for UH's RPI. Fantastic preseason games and thankfully having two other teams in the BWC (for four total conference games) that help UH's RPI. As I've said and others have noted, that UCI loss was absolutely devastating to UH's RPI. We went from a potential Top 10 RPI, to one that is probably gonna land #15-#22ish depending how everything shakes out. Im not expecting UH to host unfortunately....
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Post by baytree on Oct 28, 2019 13:39:56 GMT -5
Haha I guess I just don't fully understand RPI. Being penalized for winning seems odd, even if the opponents RPI sucks. Is our RPI gonna drop at the end of the season when we play equally awful RPI opponents CSUN and LBSU!? You should look at bluepenquin's weekly thread on RPI Futures. He should post a new one later today. It's much better for predicting where a team will end up at the end of the season than RPI. You aren't penalized for winning, you're penalized for playing teams that lost a lot (i.e, having a "weak" schedule). The first component of RPI is your own win percentage and that goes up regardless of who you beat. That's 25% of your RPI and is the most variable (can go from 0%-100%). But if the team you play has a low win %, the second component (opponent's win %) will go down whether you win or lose. That's 50% of your RPI.
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Post by volleyguy on Oct 28, 2019 14:00:06 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with transfers. Hawaii has done fine with and without transfers. Every team has utilized transfers to benefit the team, see, e.g., Lexi Sun (Nebraska), Brianna Holman (Nebraska), Cali Thompson (UCLA), Emma Smith (Cal), Lauren Barnes (Wisconsin), Kylie Miller (Minnesota), T'ara Caesar (Florida). (Well, not so much Caesar right now.) Every coach looks at the transfer portal and/or are in double secret probation communication with club coaches. Every fan of every team hopes for top level transfers. Ah Mow has openly stated the value of transfers. Not only does she look at the transfer portal, but she is in communication with many players who want to transfer to Hawaii. One of the first things she said when she got the job in 2017 was, "We need hitters!" So, she got Angel Gaskin from Maryland. It's not just volleyball or sports. Employers are constantly on the lookout for better talent, either through private channels or through headhunters. They're always having discussions with employees at other companies. Here in the Silicon Valley, it's the norm. I'm sure it's that way everywhere. I'm not above begging. Employers say, "Please please come join my team!" or "What will it take for you to work for us?" That's begging, my dudes. I've had more than my share of secret lunches and breakfasts with managers and engineers from other companies while I was working as an engineer. We chat about the restaurant, the food, life in the Bay Area, and then they almost always say, "Are you happy where you are?" and regardless of my answer, "Well, we want you to join us. This is what we can offer. [Shares details] I'm sure you'll find that very competitive." I love transfers. Some of my favorite volleyball players are transfers -- Jolie Rasmussen, Heather Bown, Sarah Mason, Victoria Prince, Stephanie Brandt, Nikki Hubbert, Nalani Yamashiita, Ali Longo. I do NOT care WHY they left their old team. It could be dissatisfaction with playing time, coach conflict, environment, homesickness, etc. It doesn't matter. I'm glad they were miserable enough at their old school to want to come to Hawaii. LOL! The more misery, the better. Of course, there is nothing wrong with transfers. It's a natural part of college and of inter-collegiate athletics. What I am referring to as embarrassing is the tendency of some posters to speculate unrealistically, or to encourage "poaching" by current athletes/transfers when there's no indication that those athletes mentioned have any intent to transfer. Moreover, it's mid-season and the appropriate time for those considerations is after their commitments for this season are done.
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Post by noblesol on Oct 28, 2019 14:12:03 GMT -5
I'm actually really concerned about the Davis match; losing to Davis would end any hosting opportunity.... Yes it would, but on the bright side for Hawaii, its very simple. Win six games and you win the BWC and can potentially host the first round of the NCAAs. Anything less and barring a meltdown, we're still in. I'm really hoping Hawaii can go 2-0 this weekend. It gives major perspective and meaning to the final four games. UC Davis is interesting to me, they played lights out against Hawaii in Hawaii, but were duds against Cal Poly and UCSB at home. Go figure. Sometimes I think this Hawaii team plays way better in conference on the road than at home. Case in point, steamrolling through Fullerton and UCI. According to Massey, Hawai'i home court advantage is only .06, tied with Wisconsin as the second to last home court advantage of the top 50 Massey ranked teams. For the Massey top 50, Kentucky has the worst home court advantage of only .04, while South Carolina has the best at .49. Of all 335 Div-I teams, only 22 have home court advantage worse than Hawai'i.
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Post by eyelander on Oct 28, 2019 15:21:21 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with transfers. Hawaii has done fine with and without transfers. Every team has utilized transfers to benefit the team, see, e.g., Lexi Sun (Nebraska), Brianna Holman (Nebraska), Cali Thompson (UCLA), Emma Smith (Cal), Lauren Barnes (Wisconsin), Kylie Miller (Minnesota), T'ara Caesar (Florida). (Well, not so much Caesar right now.) Every coach looks at the transfer portal and/or are in double secret probation communication with club coaches. Every fan of every team hopes for top level transfers. Ah Mow has openly stated the value of transfers. Not only does she look at the transfer portal, but she is in communication with many players who want to transfer to Hawaii. One of the first things she said when she got the job in 2017 was, "We need hitters!" So, she got Angel Gaskin from Maryland. It's not just volleyball or sports. Employers are constantly on the lookout for better talent, either through private channels or through headhunters. They're always having discussions with employees at other companies. Here in the Silicon Valley, it's the norm. I'm sure it's that way everywhere. I'm not above begging. Employers say, "Please please come join my team!" or "What will it take for you to work for us?" That's begging, my dudes. I've had more than my share of secret lunches and breakfasts with managers and engineers from other companies while I was working as an engineer. We chat about the restaurant, the food, life in the Bay Area, and then they almost always say, "Are you happy where you are?" and regardless of my answer, "Well, we want you to join us. This is what we can offer. [Shares details] I'm sure you'll find that very competitive." I love transfers. Some of my favorite volleyball players are transfers -- Jolie Rasmussen, Heather Bown, Sarah Mason, Victoria Prince, Stephanie Brandt, Nikki Hubbert, Nalani Yamashiita, Ali Longo. I do NOT care WHY they left their old team. It could be dissatisfaction with playing time, coach conflict, environment, homesickness, etc. It doesn't matter. I'm glad they were miserable enough at their old school to want to come to Hawaii. LOL! The more misery, the better. Didn’t know that Emma Smith was still playing. Thought she had already graduated. Glad that she’s doing really well at Cal. Was pretty bummed when she decided to transfer as I thought she’d be the next libero. Although if she hadn’t transferred, then Tita Akiu may not have transferred back to Hawai’i also.
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Post by Wolfgang on Oct 28, 2019 15:25:01 GMT -5
Emma Smith came to Hawaii in 2016 in Dave Shoji's final year (although no one knew it would be his final year). In 2017, when Robyn Ah Mow was hired, it was reported here that Ah Mow wanted Smith to redshirt because Savannah Kahakai was her libero. Smith did not want to redshirt. So, she transferred to Cal. So, 2017-2019 makes it her sophomore-junior-senior years. Mathematically, it works.
Incidentally, I think Smith would've been better than Kahakai. Akiu, it's a toss up.
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Post by volleyguy on Oct 28, 2019 16:07:24 GMT -5
Here's what RPI Futures says about Hawai'i compared to last week:
Week 9 RPI Futures:
Futures RPI: 16. Last week: 12 Projected W/L: (23-4) RPI: .6400 SOS: 50
Week 8 RPI Futures:
Futures RPI: 12 Two weeks prior: 17 Projected W/L: 22-5 RPI: .6426 SOS: 47
So, Hawai'i RPI futures prediction has dropped from 12 to 16. Actual RPI has only dropped from .6426 to .6400, but projected W/L has fallen to 23-4 from 22-5, and strength of schedule has fallen from 47 to 50.
This can be interpreted to mean that Hawai'i's actual performance has indicated that they are likely to lose one more match than previously projected. Also, their opponents are not doing as well as previously projected (SOS) and/or other teams are doing better than previously projected and their RPI has surpassed Hawai'i's.
16 RPI is obviously on the margin of being able to host, but if Hawai'i is able to win out, the W/L will exceed projections and RPI should go up. An RPI of 16 also assuredly means that Hawai'i is in the tournament whether or not they win the Conference auto-bid.
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Post by kaipono on Oct 28, 2019 17:43:28 GMT -5
Congrats to Norene Iosia for winning BWDPOW! It seems that Hellvig will always be the nomination for BWFOW for Hawaii, although I really think that Igiede deserves the nomination as well.
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Post by Wolfgang on Oct 28, 2019 18:16:37 GMT -5
Congrats to Norene Iosia for winning BWDPOW! It seems that Hellvig will always be the nomination for BWFOW for Hawaii, although I really think that Igiede deserves the nomination as well. I agree. Hellvig really tanked the UC Irvine match, hitting -0.037. How UH can nominate her with a straight face, I don't know. As much as I love Hellvig, this past weekend, it should've been Igiede: 8 kills, 0.400 vs. Cal State Fullerton (3 sets) 6 kills, 0.400 vs. UC Irvine (3 sets) She probably wouldn't have won, but Hellvig didn't have a chance either.
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Post by rainbowsets on Oct 28, 2019 18:39:39 GMT -5
Congrats to Norene Iosia for winning BWDPOW! It seems that Hellvig will always be the nomination for BWFOW for Hawaii, although I really think that Igiede deserves the nomination as well. "...was only two kills and two blocks away from capturing a quadruple-double against the Titans." are quadruple-doubles even a thing in volleyball? a hitting setter in a 6-2 would probably be the most likely out of all the position.
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Post by alexm on Oct 28, 2019 18:47:26 GMT -5
Emma Smith came to Hawaii in 2016 in Dave Shoji's final year (although no one knew it would be his final year). In 2017, when Robyn Ah Mow was hired, it was reported here that Ah Mow wanted Smith to redshirt because Savannah Kahakai was her libero. Smith did not want to redshirt. So, she transferred to Cal. So, 2017-2019 makes it her sophomore-junior-senior years. Mathematically, it works. Incidentally, I think Smith would've been better than Kahakai. Akiu, it's a toss up. I never really understood Robyn's thinking here. Emma was a walk-on and was one of our best DS's. Had she stayed, she would have really helped with our passing. We could have used her this year, especially.
While I don't think she was better than Akiu, I do think she would be our starting libero this year.
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Post by goblin on Oct 28, 2019 21:55:54 GMT -5
Congrats to Norene Iosia for winning BWDPOW! It seems that Hellvig will always be the nomination for BWFOW for Hawaii, although I really think that Igiede deserves the nomination as well. "...was only two kills and two blocks away from capturing a quadruple-double against the Titans." are quadruple-doubles even a thing in volleyball? a hitting setter in a 6-2 would probably be the most likely out of all the position. Noreen just wows the fans with her versatility, it's not so much her setting that impresses fans but her other skills she brings to the court, hitting, serving, blocking and digging. We're very fortunate to have gifted players like Noreen and Brooke who can pretty much do it all. Now if we can just get healthy.
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Post by kokyu on Oct 28, 2019 21:58:03 GMT -5
Can someone email RAM with my poll results? Okino needs retired/benched permanently, didn't think possible but she's become more a liability than Iosia's setting.
And Vig only at opp, it's not up for discussion/debate anymore.
I'm going into another blackout, other Wahine fans need to pick up the torch for me. TIA.
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