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Post by vbgal on Nov 12, 2019 17:17:13 GMT -5
Hanna at this time, seems a lock for Big west FOY. This will be our first FOY since Hartong in 2010! Exciting to see. I would not say she is a lock. I think it's a close race between her and Froley at UCSB. Even though Froley redshirted last season, you do not need to be a true freshman to win FOY in the Big West.
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Post by raian13 on Nov 12, 2019 17:20:11 GMT -5
Ditto, I don't see how you can't give POY to Ruddins at this point. Well, the overly huge fan from another team says otherwise.
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Post by 2left on Nov 12, 2019 17:34:26 GMT -5
Ex-Wahine Trinity Casteneda made California Collegiate Athletic Association Player of the Week for UC San Diego. 30 kills hitting .519 for the weekend. Great for her, and looking forward to seeing her back in the Stan soon.
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Post by goblin on Nov 12, 2019 17:58:02 GMT -5
I recall when Hawaii re-entered the Big West back in 2012, there were very few notable pin hitters in the conference...we had Hartong and Crosen, Long Beach had Bre Mackie and UCI had Aly Squires. The Big West has a lot more firepower these days with hitters like Ruddins, Dvoracek, Crawford, White, Waggoner, Hellvig. Rasmussen and Van Winden would also be in the mix if not for early season injuries. The influx of more talent has translated into more wins against marquee programs and hopefully more Big West invites into the NCAA tourney. The drive to win a conference title is now a real uphill battle, no more cake walks.
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Post by wintergreen on Nov 12, 2019 18:05:46 GMT -5
I recall when Hawaii re-entered the Big West back in 2012, there were very few notable pin hitters in the conference...we had Hartong and Crosen, Long Beach had Bre Mackie and UCI had Aly Squires. The Big West has a lot more firepower these days with hitters like Ruddins, Dvoracek, Crawford, White, Waggoner, Hellvig. Rasmussen and Van Winden would also be in the mix if not for early season injuries. The influx of more talent has translated into more wins against marquee programs and hopefully more Big West invites into the NCAA tourney. The drive to win a conference title is now a real uphill battle, no more cake walks. After the year 2016, the BWC has taken a notable uptick in competition and that has changed the usual contenders to fight for a spot just to stay in the top 4. We’ve seen more power 5 players transfer into the programs here and maybe it’s for playing time but it really has made this conference fun and almost like a sub par pac12 or WCC
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Post by noblesol on Nov 12, 2019 18:36:17 GMT -5
Massey D-1 WVB Conference rankings as of 11-11-19: www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cvol2019&sub=11590&c=1BW ranked #7 of 32. Right behind PAC12, BIG10, BIG12, SEC, WCC, ACC. For the BW, that is up a couple of spots from a typical BW year, if my memory serves. Within striking distance of the ACC and WCC. However, BW WVB teams expands by two next year, and my guess is that doesn't help. CS Bakersfield has RPI Future #262, and UCSD is currently Div II.
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Post by goblin on Nov 12, 2019 22:05:47 GMT -5
About the only question remaining for the Wahine team is, will Jolie return for the last 2 Conference matches, or the NCAA Tournament. The coaching staff has decided to sit Jolie the rest of the season due to the annoyingly high amount of asking on Volleytalk. She will return next year as the teams starting libero and backup setter to not stress her ankle. Somewhere under all this manure of misfortune (regarding Jolie and Brooke injuries) there has to be a pony. It took several matches for the Wahine to adjust to Jolie's prolonged absence, but at least we got Brooke back which allowed Robyn to shift her pin hitters to where they could be most effective. Another big move was converting Noreen back to an OH for 3 rotations. The positives that came out of this ordeal (the pony) was that our coaching staff were forced to create an emergency plan that worked and our freshman players were fully immersed in D1 competition. No red-shirting allowed.
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Post by baytree on Nov 12, 2019 23:01:35 GMT -5
Massey D-1 WVB Conference rankings as of 11-11-19: www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cvol2019&sub=11590&c=1BW ranked #7 of 32. Right behind PAC12, BIG10, BIG12, SEC, WCC, ACC. For the BW, that is up a couple of spots from a typical BW year, if my memory serves. Within striking distance of the ACC and WCC. However, BW WVB teams expands by two next year, and my guess is that doesn't help. CS Bakersfield has RPI Future #262, and UCSD is currently Div II. My memory was that BW had been 7th for a while so I checked. Turns out that they were 9th in 2018, 6th in 2010 (and at 1.40 very close to the ACC at 1.41 for 5th), and 7th in every other year (2011-2017). They had the same rating as ACC in 2013 (1.42). I don't know if they were actually tied for 6th (but listed 2nd bc alphabetic listing) or rounding caused BW to actually be slightly lower (while showing the same score). I didn't go back before 2010 but you can if you want: www.masseyratings.com/cvol2010The interesting thing (to me) is how close they were to 1.41 in almost every year except 2018 when they were 1.35. Although they were 9th, they were very close to the ACC at 1.36, Mountain West at 1.37, Missouri Valley at 1.34, and WAC at 1.32. Once you got past 6th (ACC at 1.52), there were several conferences that were really close. I agree that they may fall next season with the two new teams. You were probably remembering last season while I was thinking of 2011-2017.
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Post by 2left on Nov 13, 2019 1:44:51 GMT -5
I don't think Bakersfield will ever climb out of the bottom of the Conference, but I have high hopes for UCSD. That is a top-notch UC school, just under UCLA in terms of academics, and located just off the beach in La Jolla, California. They are already a volleyball school, and although transitioning into D-I, I can see them challenging for good recruits and building out a successful program fairly soon.
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Post by babybacksets on Nov 13, 2019 2:24:51 GMT -5
I don't understand all this takeover crap. The few that I've seen that were posted on VT of players from other schools were really really dull. College athletes should stick to their strength -- their sport -- and not making crappy home movie-quality videos. What I imagine happens is the sponsoring organization (e.g., NCAA, ESPN) asks a team to do a takeover and the team "volunteers" someone who they think is charismatic or vivacious to do the damn thing. The problem is, the charisma and vivaciousness don't translate to the small screen because these athletes are clueless about the most basic film techniques, including camera work, composition, and how to get interesting stuff on film. Lol be quiet
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Nov 13, 2019 2:26:52 GMT -5
Already mentioned ... but nice to put this in our thread ... congrats Hanna!
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Post by babybacksets on Nov 13, 2019 2:36:36 GMT -5
I recall when Hawaii re-entered the Big West back in 2012, there were very few notable pin hitters in the conference...we had Hartong and Crosen, Long Beach had Bre Mackie and UCI had Aly Squires. The Big West has a lot more firepower these days with hitters like Ruddins, Dvoracek, Crawford, White, Waggoner, Hellvig. Rasmussen and Van Winden would also be in the mix if not for early season injuries. The influx of more talent has translated into more wins against marquee programs and hopefully more Big West invites into the NCAA tourney. The drive to win a conference title is now a real uphill battle, no more cake walks. Is that a typo? Riley Wagoner isn’t even a blip on the radar of the top hitters in the conference. There’s at least 4 other players on the Wahine team alone that make a better case than she does. Either way, I don’t see why being the conference kill leader should net you Big West POY without coming in at least 2nd in the Big West. Plus I think Ruddins could really be ANY go to hitter in the country on a team that uses you as it’s main point scorer. She makes a good case but I don’t think it’s any more than Dvoracek. Iosia has impacted this team to equal actual wins, despite the different things up against the team this latter half of the season. No one else is in the conference is doing for their team what she is doing for Hawaii
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Post by goblin on Nov 13, 2019 2:47:27 GMT -5
Not a typo, Seyvion Waggoner CSUN OH. We got Riley Wagoner who plays great D but not much in the way of hitting production. Hopefully, that will change. We’ll see
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Post by kolohekeiki on Nov 13, 2019 2:54:01 GMT -5
I recall when Hawaii re-entered the Big West back in 2012, there were very few notable pin hitters in the conference...we had Hartong and Crosen, Long Beach had Bre Mackie and UCI had Aly Squires. The Big West has a lot more firepower these days with hitters like Ruddins, Dvoracek, Crawford, White, Waggoner, Hellvig. Rasmussen and Van Winden would also be in the mix if not for early season injuries. The influx of more talent has translated into more wins against marquee programs and hopefully more Big West invites into the NCAA tourney. The drive to win a conference title is now a real uphill battle, no more cake walks. Is that a typo? Riley Wagoner isn’t even a blip on the radar of the top hitters in the conference. There’s at least 4 other players on the Wahine team alone that make a better case than she does. Either way, I don’t see why being the conference kill leader should net you Big West POY without coming in at least 2nd in the Big West. Plus I think Ruddins could really be ANY go to hitter in the country on a team that uses you as it’s main point scorer. She makes a good case but I don’t think it’s any more than Dvoracek. Iosia has impacted this team to equal actual wins, despite the different things up against the team this latter half of the season. No one else is in the conference is doing for their team what she is doing for Hawaii Theres a Seyvion Waggoner that plays for CSUN
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Post by Wolfgang on Nov 13, 2019 2:58:38 GMT -5
Is that a typo? Riley Wagoner isn’t even a blip on the radar of the top hitters in the conference. There’s at least 4 other players on the Wahine team alone that make a better case than she does. Either way, I don’t see why being the conference kill leader should net you Big West POY without coming in at least 2nd in the Big West. Plus I think Ruddins could really be ANY go to hitter in the country on a team that uses you as it’s main point scorer. She makes a good case but I don’t think it’s any more than Dvoracek. Iosia has impacted this team to equal actual wins, despite the different things up against the team this latter half of the season. No one else is in the conference is doing for their team what she is doing for Hawaii Theres a Seyvion Waggoner that plays for CSUN I remember her. During the Hawaii @ CSUN match, I was doing a Wagoner vs. Waggoner stat comparison. That happened to be Riley Wagoner's best match as a hitter when she hit for a personal season high of 11 kills. (But at 0.125 )
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