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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Aug 27, 2018 17:31:41 GMT -5
Well vbprisoner since you are calling posters out- who voted for Wisconsin #1 based just on this past week alone? 🙄 Me. What the fresh hell is this mess?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 17:32:47 GMT -5
I totally missed you confessing to this... you need to share your top 10 though. Why
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Post by Northern lights on Aug 27, 2018 17:58:51 GMT -5
It was impossible to see all the teams play this weekend, just not enough time. So I have to admit to filling some holes in my top 25 with hunches. Should get more accurate as the weeks go by. I know Texas won but I was not impressed with Shook, and am not at all convinced she can take them to a final four or a title. To a lesser extent the Nebraska Setter needs to keep improving or they will not repeat. I still like Colorado State as a dark horse team, and was impressed with my Wolverines. Michigan has good balance. Hawaii looked undersized, and Washington looked solid. I did not watch the entire Minnesota Florida State match but did watch most of the Florida State Wisconsin match. Minnesota looked better IMO.
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Post by speegs13 on Aug 27, 2018 18:10:05 GMT -5
I would be interested in the case for Colorado? I think I heard they played short handed - is there an injury involved. I know they lost one of their best players before the season began (that they aren't getting back). This weekend game scores give me little confidence in them as a top 25 team. Or is their something about Wyoming that I didn't realize? Missing Abu, but I would also add that Wyoming might be better than people are giving them credit for. Returned the majority of their lineup, and they have a good block, scrappy defense, and are balanced offensively in their 6-2. Plus it didn't hurt that they were playing Laramie
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Post by huskerjen on Aug 27, 2018 18:32:59 GMT -5
It was impossible to see all the teams play this weekend, just not enough time. So I have to admit to filling some holes in my top 25 with hunches. Should get more accurate as the weeks go by. I know Texas won but I was not impressed with Shook, and am not at all convinced she can take them to a final four or a title. To a lesser extent the Nebraska Setter needs to keep improving or they will not repeat. I still like Colorado State as a dark horse team, and was impressed with my Wolverines. Michigan has good balance. Hawaii looked undersized, and Washington looked solid. I did not watch the entire Minnesota Florida State match but did watch most of the Florida State Wisconsin match. Minnesota looked better IMO. I find little to fault in Hames' performance. Given her first two starts were against Florida (Nebraska's passing was bad that match) and Oregon, she did as well as I could have expected. Her floor defense was stellar, she served great, and she bettered most balls. To win another title, yes, she will need to continue improving (read: continue refining her connection with hitters), but that's quite the leap to immediately talk about where her performance needs to be to win a title. Check back at the end of October.
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Post by Northern lights on Aug 27, 2018 18:39:03 GMT -5
It was impossible to see all the teams play this weekend, just not enough time. So I have to admit to filling some holes in my top 25 with hunches. Should get more accurate as the weeks go by. I know Texas won but I was not impressed with Shook, and am not at all convinced she can take them to a final four or a title. To a lesser extent the Nebraska Setter needs to keep improving or they will not repeat. I still like Colorado State as a dark horse team, and was impressed with my Wolverines. Michigan has good balance. Hawaii looked undersized, and Washington looked solid. I did not watch the entire Minnesota Florida State match but did watch most of the Florida State Wisconsin match. Minnesota looked better IMO. I find little to fault in Hames' performance. Given her first two starts were against Florida (Nebraska's passing was bad that match) and Oregon, she did as well as I could have expected. Her floor defense was stellar, she served great, and she bettered most balls. To win another title, yes, she will need to continue improving (read: continue refining her connection with hitters), but that's quite the leap to immediately talk about where her performance needs to be to win a title. Check back at the end of October. Your just repeating what I said. I said the Nebraska setter needs to keep improving or they will not repeat. Not everything is a slight against Nebraksa.
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Post by huskerjen on Aug 27, 2018 18:41:13 GMT -5
I find little to fault in Hames' performance. Given her first two starts were against Florida (Nebraska's passing was bad that match) and Oregon, she did as well as I could have expected. Her floor defense was stellar, she served great, and she bettered most balls. To win another title, yes, she will need to continue improving (read: continue refining her connection with hitters), but that's quite the leap to immediately talk about where her performance needs to be to win a title. Check back at the end of October. Your just repeating what I said. I said the Nebraska setter needs to keep improving or they will not repeat. Not everything is a slight against Nebraksa. I didn't think it was a slight, I just thought it was excessive to immediately tie a "national title" standard to a frosh setter. As great as Hall was, I wouldn't talk about her carrying Florida to a title either.
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Post by huskerjen on Aug 27, 2018 18:50:55 GMT -5
Here's my top 25; I'm open to criticism.
I'll admit upfront that my logic isn't consistent yet. I considered results, expectation before the weekend, projecting who would win if they played on a neutral court tomorrow, etc. However, I probably weighted the criteria differently in different cases. I figure this list will be volatile until conference play, but once I can watch more matches and assess their body-of-work (recent results will be given more weight), what I believe each team's floor/ceiling to be, etc., then it'll gain more traction. Later in the year I'll probably weight the rankings on who I think would win a 7 match series and give more attention to Pablo.
1. Stanford 2. USC 3. Texas 4. Florida 5. Wisconsin 6. Minnesota 7. BYU 8. Nebraska 9. Washington 10. Baylor 11. Michigan 12. Penn State 13. Illinois 14. UCLA 15. Kentucky 16. Pittsburgh 17. Northern Iowa 18. Oregon 19. Marquette 20. Creighton 21. Louisville 22. Purdue 23. Colorado 24. Iowa State 25. Colorado State
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Post by trainermch on Aug 27, 2018 18:59:07 GMT -5
Your just repeating what I said. I said the Nebraska setter needs to keep improving or they will not repeat. Not everything is a slight against Nebraksa. I didn't think it was a slight, I just thought it was excessive to immediately tie a "national title" standard to a frosh setter. As great as Hall was, I wouldn't talk about her carrying Florida to a title either. Hames got some pancakes that, from the rafters, appeared to be "definitely" down, but the replays time and again showed she was there first. Those among many other things say lots of exciting seasons ahead with Nicklin.
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Post by Northern lights on Aug 27, 2018 19:00:43 GMT -5
Here's my top 25; I'm open to criticism. I'll admit upfront that my logic isn't consistent yet. I considered results, expectation before the weekend, projecting who would win if they played on a neutral court tomorrow, etc. However, I probably weighted the criteria differently in different cases. I figure this list will be volatile until conference play, but once I can watch more matches and assess their body-of-work (recent results will be given more weight), what I believe each team's floor/ceiling to be, etc., then it'll gain more traction. Later in the year I'll probably weight the rankings on who I think would win a 7 match series and give more attention to Pablo. 1. Stanford 2. USC 3. Texas 4. Florida 5. Wisconsin 6. Minnesota 7. BYU 8. Nebraska 9. Washington 10. Baylor 11. Michigan 12. Penn State 13. Illinois 14. UCLA 15. Kentucky 16. Pittsburgh 17. Northern Iowa 18. Oregon 19. Marquette 20. Creighton 21. Louisville 22. Purdue 23. Colorado 24. Iowa State 25. Colorado State Say huskerjen tell us why you put Nebraksa at 8? Anything to do with a frosh setter?
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Post by huskerjen on Aug 27, 2018 19:05:42 GMT -5
I didn't think it was a slight, I just thought it was excessive to immediately tie a "national title" standard to a frosh setter. As great as Hall was, I wouldn't talk about her carrying Florida to a title either. Hames got some pancakes that, from the rafters, appeared to be "definitely" down, but the replays time and again showed she was there first. Those among many other things say lots of exciting seasons ahead with Nicklin. She had a one-arm dig inside the 10 foot line against Oregon in the first set that had me shaking my head. I was like, if you told me she came in as a prep all-American libero, I'd believe it.
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Post by huskerjen on Aug 27, 2018 19:06:58 GMT -5
Here's my top 25; I'm open to criticism. I'll admit upfront that my logic isn't consistent yet. I considered results, expectation before the weekend, projecting who would win if they played on a neutral court tomorrow, etc. However, I probably weighted the criteria differently in different cases. I figure this list will be volatile until conference play, but once I can watch more matches and assess their body-of-work (recent results will be given more weight), what I believe each team's floor/ceiling to be, etc., then it'll gain more traction. Later in the year I'll probably weight the rankings on who I think would win a 7 match series and give more attention to Pablo. 1. Stanford 2. USC 3. Texas 4. Florida 5. Wisconsin 6. Minnesota 7. BYU 8. Nebraska 9. Washington 10. Baylor 11. Michigan 12. Penn State 13. Illinois 14. UCLA 15. Kentucky 16. Pittsburgh 17. Northern Iowa 18. Oregon 19. Marquette 20. Creighton 21. Louisville 22. Purdue 23. Colorado 24. Iowa State 25. Colorado State Say huskerjen tell us why you put Nebraksa at 8? Anything to do with a frosh setter? Nope. Serving and passing inconsistencies mostly. That, and I thought the seven teams ahead were more deserving.
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Post by Hawk Attack on Aug 27, 2018 19:08:18 GMT -5
Watching Minnesota brought me back down to earth on their current state, once passing improves I'm certain they'll look better. I also dropped Illinois down and will probably keep them there until something significant (good or bad) happens. Next week will be more telling in their capabilities. Top 5 all seem reasonable to me for now. I dropped BYU just a little bit just because I liked what I saw from Wisconsin & Minnesota and I'm waiting to make sure they reasonably put away Wichita St. next weekend. You can crucify me for ranking Kentucky 1 above UNI but hear me out, my movement for Kentucky/UNI/Creighton looked like this:
Kentucky - down 4 Creighton - down 5 UNI - up 7
As much as I would LOVE to give UNI all the praise in the world, they are a hometown team for me and I just want to see them keep their momentum this upcoming weekend against ISU & Washington St. (x2) before really giving them the stamp of approval. I waffled back and forth but it just felt like a lot to move them up 8. Especially now that I feel like I'm screaming SEE EVERYONE LOOK HOW GOOD THEY ARE.
With that being said I did not like what I saw from Kentucky or Creighton. I dropped Wichita St., Western Kentucky, & Utah and added Pittsburgh (19), Marquette (20), & Wyoming (25).
1. Stanford 2. Texas 3. Florida 4. Wisconsin 5. Minnesota 6. BYU 7. Penn St. 8. Nebraska 9. USC 10. Baylor 11. UCLA 12. Washington 13. Illinois 14. Kentucky 15. UNI 16. Oregon 17. San Diego 18. Colorado St. 19. Pittsburgh 20. Marquette 21. Creighton 22. Cal Poly 23. Colorado 24. Iowa St. 25. Wyoming
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Post by vbprisoner on Aug 28, 2018 13:07:19 GMT -5
OK, I figured I would post my rankings as well.
1. Stanford 2. Texas 3. Minnesota 4. Florida 5. USC 6. Wisconsin 7. Nebraska 8. Penn St. 9. BYU 10. UCLA 11. Baylor 12. Illinois 13. Oregon 14. Pittsburgh 15. Washington 16. UNI 17. Creighton 18. Kentucky 19. Marquette 20. Washington St. 21. Michigan 22. Purdue 23. Louisville 24. Colorado 25. Wyoming
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Post by Hawk Attack on Aug 28, 2018 14:17:04 GMT -5
OK, I figured I would post my rankings as well. 1. Stanford 2. Texas 3. Minnesota 4. Florida 5. USC 6. Wisconsin 7. Nebraska 8. Penn St. 9. BYU 10. UCLA 11. Baylor 12. Illinois 13. Oregon 14. Pittsburgh 15. Washington 16. UNI 17. Creighton 18. Kentucky 19. Marquette 20. Washington St. 21. Michigan 22. Purdue 23. Louisville 24. Colorado 25. Wyoming What’re you seeing in Michigan and more specifically, Purdue, that I’m missing?
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