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Post by raian13 on Nov 21, 2018 16:30:05 GMT -5
Welp. KState and Duke won, so now what?
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Post by HawaiiVB on Nov 21, 2018 16:30:27 GMT -5
Hawai'i hope is still alive.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 21, 2018 16:32:07 GMT -5
Notre Dame losing also brings LMU almost into contact with the RPI cutline.
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Post by eldorado on Nov 21, 2018 16:32:30 GMT -5
Shelton 12 kills and 31 assists? That’s doing some work. She was a great pickup for the Duke program this year. Too bad she's a Duke 'one and done'. Duke degree a nice pick up for her too
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 21, 2018 16:37:21 GMT -5
What is the record for having the most losses to non-tourney teams and still getting an at-large bid? K-State has 8 and I think they get in.
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Post by trojansc on Nov 21, 2018 16:51:06 GMT -5
UCLA in big trouble, about to go down 0-2 at home to Colorado
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Post by swatson91 on Nov 21, 2018 17:18:00 GMT -5
Good News for Hawaii and USD
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Post by akbar on Nov 21, 2018 17:18:05 GMT -5
UCLA in big trouble, about to go down 0-2 at home to Colorado UCLA is and has been trending downward as a program. The Name and Westwood/Pauley allure has been passed by so so many other programs in the country. 13-13 Hello?
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Post by vballvball on Nov 21, 2018 17:39:49 GMT -5
UCLA in big trouble, about to go down 0-2 at home to Colorado UCLA is and has been trending downward as a program. The Name and Westwood/Pauley allure has been passed by so so many other programs in the country. 13-13 Hello? Bill Walton just reported you for that post
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Post by akbar on Nov 21, 2018 18:25:21 GMT -5
UCLA is and has been trending downward as a program. The Name and Westwood/Pauley allure has been passed by so so many other programs in the country. 13-13 Hello? Bill Walton just reported you for that post "Steve Nash is the most unathletic player in the league." Bill Walton
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Post by Wiswell on Nov 21, 2018 19:00:04 GMT -5
I don't think anyone knows - plus the huge wildcard, we don't know what is going to happen in the remaining games to be played. Does any of Texas, Minnesota, Illinois lose? Does Wisconsin beat Penn State? My guess is that the loss moved BYU from 100% a top 4 seed to something more like 50% chance.
The committee is going to see something like this from Texas and their quality wins: 9 Kentucky 14 Baylor 14 Baylor 20 Florida 21 Oregon 24 Texas State
And this from BYU: 1 Stanford 8 USC 16 Marquette
In addition, they will see that BYU was 10-0 against 26-50 while Texas 1-1. They will also see that the common opponent was Stanford - where BYU beat them and Texas lost twice to them. Finally, when looking at committee seeding decisions over the past 5 years, there appears to be a preference of overall record. The committee often times seeds a 2016 2 loss Nebraska team over 4 loss Minnesota and Wisconsin even though the later has the better RPI. Or 2014 2 loss Wisconsin being seeded over 3 loss Penn State even though Penn State won the H2H. BYU is going to have 3 less losses than Texas - and I think this may matter to the committee.
If BYU is #5 RPI and Texas is #4 - I bet BYU is seeded ahead of Texas. If it is BYU #6 and Texas #3 - then I am not so sure. And there is still a real chance that BYU is seeded ahead of Illinois and/or Minnesota.
Is there a scenario where Wisconsin can get top 4 seed? If Wisconsin beats Penn State on Saturday Wisconsin has wins vs: #4 Illinois (and outscored them head to head) #5 Texas #6 Nebraska #7 Penn State #12 Purdue @ Purdue #12 Purdue @ Home #16 Marquette #18Michigan Wisconsin has 6 wins better than any 1 win Texas has. The problem is the Iowa loss. Worse than Texas's Kansas loss.
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Post by jayj79 on Nov 21, 2018 19:54:05 GMT -5
Remember when Macey Gardner went down and the Macey-less ASU clearly didn't deserve to be in the tournament without her and, she missed enough of the season that their RPI could be considered somewhat bubbly (though safe under normal circumstances)? ASU got in anyway; the Committee completely ignored the injury which was, frankly, a MUCH more important one. Based on that precedent, we can guess BYU will be seeded on the merits of its season-long resume without regard for the injury. They will be seeded between 3 and 6. so a team's wins earlier in the season should be entirely disregarded because someone happens to get hurt later in the season? seems rather rude.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 21, 2018 19:58:19 GMT -5
Remember when Macey Gardner went down and the Macey-less ASU clearly didn't deserve to be in the tournament without her and, she missed enough of the season that their RPI could be considered somewhat bubbly (though safe under normal circumstances)? ASU got in anyway; the Committee completely ignored the injury which was, frankly, a MUCH more important one. Based on that precedent, we can guess BYU will be seeded on the merits of its season-long resume without regard for the injury. They will be seeded between 3 and 6. so a team's wins earlier in the season should be entirely disregarded because someone happens to get hurt later in the season? seems rather rude. How is it rude? ASU without Macey wasn't close to the same team.
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Post by notwvb on Nov 21, 2018 20:06:49 GMT -5
UCLA in big trouble, about to go down 0-2 at home to Colorado UCLA is and has been trending downward as a program. The Name and Westwood/Pauley allure has been passed by so so many other programs in the country. 13-13 Hello? Time to roll up the sleeves and get to work.
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Post by jayj79 on Nov 21, 2018 20:08:07 GMT -5
so a team's wins earlier in the season should be entirely disregarded because someone happens to get hurt later in the season? seems rather rude. How is it rude? ASU without Macey wasn't close to the same team. so should seeding/at-large bids be determined by what a team has done on the court during the season, or simply by what people think about the players themselves?
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