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UCLA
Nov 27, 2018 19:49:01 GMT -5
Post by mikegarrison on Nov 27, 2018 19:49:01 GMT -5
There is a guy on 247 message board that has harped for the last 3 or 4 years that UCLA not having a certain amount of Black girls on the team has hurt them. Would there be any legs in that? it is a well documented issue at UCLA for the entire student body. That may be true, but it's the rare D1 school whose athletic teams reflect the overall demographics of the overall student body.
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UCLA
Nov 27, 2018 20:02:27 GMT -5
Post by n00b on Nov 27, 2018 20:02:27 GMT -5
There is a guy on 247 message board that has harped for the last 3 or 4 years that UCLA not having a certain amount of Black girls on the team has hurt them. Would there be any legs in that? This made me wonder about the racial makeup of Pac-12 schools. A Google search brought me to collegedata.com (I can't speak to the veracity of this information): Percentage of Students from the US who identified as Black/African-American: 0.2% UCLA 1.4% Oregon State 1.4% Utah 1.8% Colorado 2.5% Cal 2.5% Oregon 3.5% Washington 3.9% Washington State 4.2% Arizona 4.3% Arizona State 5.3% USC 7.0% Stanford So 1 out of every 500 American students at UCLA is black. If it's tough recruiting black athletes there, I'm not sure that's Sealy's fault. www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/college_pg01_tmpl.jhtml?schoolId=1093
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UCLA
Nov 27, 2018 20:05:19 GMT -5
Post by pepperbrooks on Nov 27, 2018 20:05:19 GMT -5
Hard to say without knowing the specifics of their recruiting. Maybe they’ve tried and just haven’t succeeded in recruiting minorities.
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 27, 2018 20:08:15 GMT -5
So 1 out of every 500 American students at UCLA is black. If it's tough recruiting black athletes there, I'm not sure that's Sealy's fault. It sounds like you are making the false assumption that Sealy's recruiting pool is the UCLA campus.
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UCLA
Nov 27, 2018 20:09:34 GMT -5
Post by volleyguy on Nov 27, 2018 20:09:34 GMT -5
There is a guy on 247 message board that has harped for the last 3 or 4 years that UCLA not having a certain amount of Black girls on the team has hurt them. Would there be any legs in that? This made me wonder about the racial makeup of Pac-12 schools. A Google search brought me to collegedata.com (I can't speak to the veracity of this information): Percentage of Students from the US who identified as Black/African-American: 0.2% UCLA 1.4% Oregon State 1.4% Utah 1.8% Colorado 2.5% Cal 2.5% Oregon 3.5% Washington 3.9% Washington State 4.2% Arizona 4.3% Arizona State 5.3% USC 7.0% Stanford So 1 out of every 500 American students at UCLA is black. If it's tough recruiting black athletes there, I'm not sure that's Sealy's fault. www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/college_pg01_tmpl.jhtml?schoolId=1093The UCLA website lists their Fall 2017 enrollment as 5.2%, which seems like a much more realistic number than 0.2%. www.admission.ucla.edu/campusprofile.htm
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UCLA
Nov 27, 2018 20:15:26 GMT -5
Post by n00b on Nov 27, 2018 20:15:26 GMT -5
This made me wonder about the racial makeup of Pac-12 schools. A Google search brought me to collegedata.com (I can't speak to the veracity of this information): Percentage of Students from the US who identified as Black/African-American: 0.2% UCLA 1.4% Oregon State 1.4% Utah 1.8% Colorado 2.5% Cal 2.5% Oregon 3.5% Washington 3.9% Washington State 4.2% Arizona 4.3% Arizona State 5.3% USC 7.0% Stanford So 1 out of every 500 American students at UCLA is black. If it's tough recruiting black athletes there, I'm not sure that's Sealy's fault. www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/college_pg01_tmpl.jhtml?schoolId=1093The UCLA website lists their Fall 2017 enrollment as 5.2%, which seems like a much more realistic number than 0.2%. www.admission.ucla.edu/campusprofile.htmAgreed. I was just trying to find a single source for all 12 schools, which led me to one of those generic sites.
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UCLA
Nov 27, 2018 20:17:05 GMT -5
Post by n00b on Nov 27, 2018 20:17:05 GMT -5
So 1 out of every 500 American students at UCLA is black. If it's tough recruiting black athletes there, I'm not sure that's Sealy's fault. It sounds like you are making the false assumption that Sealy's recruiting pool is the UCLA campus. That's not the assumption. The assumption is that it is more challenging to recruit black athletes to a school that is overwhelmingly white and Asian.
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UCLA
Nov 27, 2018 20:23:14 GMT -5
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Post by Mocha on Nov 27, 2018 20:23:14 GMT -5
There is a guy on 247 message board that has harped for the last 3 or 4 years that UCLA not having a certain amount of Black girls on the team has hurt them. Would there be any legs in that? Nana Meriwether doesn't count.
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UCLA
Nov 27, 2018 20:25:18 GMT -5
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 27, 2018 20:25:18 GMT -5
It sounds like you are making the false assumption that Sealy's recruiting pool is the UCLA campus. That's not the assumption. The assumption is that it is more challenging to recruit black athletes to a school that is overwhelmingly white and Asian. OK, I see where you are coming from. Not sure I agree, but it's possible.
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UCLA
Nov 27, 2018 20:25:47 GMT -5
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Post by bruinsgold on Nov 27, 2018 20:25:47 GMT -5
I think it would be an absolute shame to lose Ker. Isn't he responsible for how great UCLA's defense has been the past six years? Admittedly, their passing has been on a decline, but he's helped to improve how strong the back row has been.
Wasn't he once touted as Sealy's replacement?
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UCLA
Nov 27, 2018 20:26:11 GMT -5
Post by volleyguy on Nov 27, 2018 20:26:11 GMT -5
There is a guy on 247 message board that has harped for the last 3 or 4 years that UCLA not having a certain amount of Black girls on the team has hurt them. Would there be any legs in that? This made me wonder about the racial makeup of Pac-12 schools. A Google search brought me to collegedata.com (I can't speak to the veracity of this information): Percentage of Students from the US who identified as Black/African-American: 0.2% UCLA 1.4% Oregon State 1.4% Utah 1.8% Colorado 2.5% Cal 2.5% Oregon 3.5% Washington 3.9% Washington State 4.2% Arizona 4.3% Arizona State 5.3% USC 7.0% Stanford So 1 out of every 500 American students at UCLA is black. If it's tough recruiting black athletes there, I'm not sure that's Sealy's fault. www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/college_pg01_tmpl.jhtml?schoolId=1093John Cook figured it out.
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UCLA
Nov 27, 2018 20:29:47 GMT -5
Post by greenpier on Nov 27, 2018 20:29:47 GMT -5
0.2% UCLA So 1 out of every 500 American students at UCLA is black. If it's tough recruiting black athletes there, I'm not sure that's Sealy's fault.
...........................and the problem is......................................?
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UCLA
Nov 27, 2018 21:04:25 GMT -5
Post by Wolfgang on Nov 27, 2018 21:04:25 GMT -5
I think it would be interesting to require your athletic team to mirror the demographics of the student population. All the top schools in the nation would field predominantly Asian athletes! For example, the single highest ethnic group at UCLA is Asian/Pacific Islander at 31.6 % and then it's White people at 26.1% and then Hispanic at 21.3%. There should be more Asians on Mike Sealy's team than any other group! Of course, most Asian girls are 4'11 - 5'8". You might get lucky and find a 6'2" like Lexi Sun but they are few and far between. And the tall ones don't go into athletics.
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UCLA
Nov 27, 2018 22:45:28 GMT -5
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Post by Mocha on Nov 27, 2018 22:45:28 GMT -5
There is a guy on 247 message board that has harped for the last 3 or 4 years that UCLA not having a certain amount of Black girls on the team has hurt them. Would there be any legs in that? Probably a VT poster too.
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UCLA
Nov 27, 2018 22:56:20 GMT -5
Post by donut on Nov 27, 2018 22:56:20 GMT -5
That's not the assumption. The assumption is that it is more challenging to recruit black athletes to a school that is overwhelmingly white and Asian. OK, I see where you are coming from. Not sure I agree, but it's possible. Representation matters, whether that be at the student body level, student-athlete level, or volleyball team level. Obviously, it's going to be hard to quantify that effect.
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