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Post by smb4 on Dec 11, 2018 0:33:10 GMT -5
Not sure what piqued your interest but with Erica Kostelac on the transfer list, Cincy doesn’t have a junior class left based on their roster. Their superplayer Jordan Thompson is a redshirt junior so I guess that counts. Many foreign players on roster. Is that a growing trend? Depends on the team. The acc sees a lot of it. Half of the Pittsburg and Syracuse team are European. This is false. Don't know about Syracuse, but Pitt had one player from Slovenia, one from Greece, and one from Canada (which is clearly not in Europe). Even if you expand your claim to non-US rather than European, that's only three non-US players from a roster of 17, not quite half... edit: It turns out, it's not true about SU either. Based on their posted roster from 2018, 10 out of 16 players are from the US.
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Post by charger0304 on Dec 11, 2018 0:33:37 GMT -5
Not sure what piqued your interest but with Erica Kostelac on the transfer list, Cincy doesn’t have a junior class left based on their roster. Their superplayer Jordan Thompson is a redshirt junior so I guess that counts. Many foreign players on roster. Is that a growing trend? Depends on the team. The acc sees a lot of it. Half of the Pittsburg and Syracuse team are European. What? Pitt has two players from Europe... Syracuse is a reflection of the coach. He recruited the same way at his previous school(s). Other than that there are just a handful of European players in the ACC.
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Post by vbjustice on Dec 11, 2018 0:51:08 GMT -5
Depends on the team. The acc sees a lot of it. Half of the Pittsburg and Syracuse team are European. This is false. Don't know about Syracuse, but Pitt had one player from Slovenia, one from Greece, and one from Canada (which is clearly not in Europe). Even if you expand your claim to non-US rather than European, that's only three non-US players from a roster of 17, not quite half... edit: It turns out, it's not true about SU either. Based on their posted roster from 2018, 10 out of 16 players are from the US. it’s a little harder for East Coast coaches to recruit elite talent from their own backyard. Definitely see a lot more foreign recruitment over there. Depends on the school. Not ACC, but Rutgers has 9 out of 12, likely a connection to their assistant coach though. Hofstra’s 1/2 their team.
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Post by wishinwestcoastvb on Dec 11, 2018 0:52:09 GMT -5
Looks like Xavier might be the next school with the mass exodus
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Post by smb4 on Dec 11, 2018 0:58:05 GMT -5
This is false. Don't know about Syracuse, but Pitt had one player from Slovenia, one from Greece, and one from Canada (which is clearly not in Europe). Even if you expand your claim to non-US rather than European, that's only three non-US players from a roster of 17, not quite half... edit: It turns out, it's not true about SU either. Based on their posted roster from 2018, 10 out of 16 players are from the US. it’s a little harder for East Coast coaches to recruit elite talent from their own backyard. Definitely see a lot more foreign recruitment over there. Depends on the school. Not ACC, but Rutgers has 9 out of 12, likely a connection to their assistant coach though. Hofstra’s 1/2 their team. I understand, and I have no problem with foreign players coming to the US - it seems like a win/win to me. I just get tired of blatantly false claims like the one made by gavinpeters4.
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Post by vballgrl on Dec 11, 2018 1:11:00 GMT -5
This is false. Don't know about Syracuse, but Pitt had one player from Slovenia, one from Greece, and one from Canada (which is clearly not in Europe). Even if you expand your claim to non-US rather than European, that's only three non-US players from a roster of 17, not quite half... edit: It turns out, it's not true about SU either. Based on their posted roster from 2018, 10 out of 16 players are from the US. it’s a little harder for East Coast coaches to recruit elite talent from their own backyard. Definitely see a lot more foreign recruitment over there. Depends on the school. Not ACC, but Rutgers has 9 out of 12, likely a connection to their assistant coach though. Hofstra’s 1/2 their team. Personally, I am against this. 'This' being more than 1 out of every 9 kids on team being from outside the U.S. There are already limited playing opportunities at the collegiate level, even fewer are the number of scholarships. When 25-50-75% of a team is made up of non-US, then American girls (many of whom spent years playing and thousands of dollars) are having their opportunities reduced. I understand wanting to find high quality foreign players & of course wanting to win but there should be a max 3 limit. Jmo of course.
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Post by trojansc on Dec 11, 2018 2:01:44 GMT -5
Looks like Xavier might be the next school with the mass exodus What happened to Xavier? When I first started doing Bracketology, Xavier for like three or four years straight was just outside NCAA Tournament range, with an RPI in the 50s or 60s. They’ve been pretty irrelevant, especially after Bessler graduated
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Post by stanfordvb on Dec 11, 2018 8:26:45 GMT -5
Depends on the team. The acc sees a lot of it. Half of the Pittsburg and Syracuse team are European. What? Pitt has two players from Europe... Syracuse is a reflection of the coach. He recruited the same way at his previous school(s). Other than that there are just a handful of European players in the ACC. I was just pointing out the 2 schools known for it which are in the acc. Pitt has previously had more this year there is less. They rely on foreign players as the two best players are the two Europeans.
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Post by stanfordvb on Dec 11, 2018 8:35:32 GMT -5
Depends on the team. The acc sees a lot of it. Half of the Pittsburg and Syracuse team are European. This is false. Don't know about Syracuse, but Pitt had one player from Slovenia, one from Greece, and one from Canada (which is clearly not in Europe). Even if you expand your claim to non-US rather than European, that's only three non-US players from a roster of 17, not quite half... edit: It turns out, it's not true about SU either. Based on their posted roster from 2018, 10 out of 16 players are from the US. 6 players on a roster from out of country is a lot. Obviously I over exaggerated when saying half.... Syracuse recruits more heavily in Europe than any other team and it shows in their rosters. 3 starters in 2015 were from Europe. That’s half of the lineup which we just don’t see in NCAA volleyball.
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Post by mysterymom on Dec 11, 2018 8:45:33 GMT -5
LIU Brooklyn has a heavy European roster, with 8 of 14 players. Curious how recruiting works with this type of strategy, I assume it’s all through video?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 8:47:24 GMT -5
Is Weiskircher transferring? Otherwise, relevance for this thread? Yes, she is transferring to The School of Hard Knocks.
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Post by redcard🏐 on Dec 11, 2018 9:32:02 GMT -5
Looks like Xavier might be the next school with the mass exodus They lost two last year and three this year.
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Post by jengal on Dec 11, 2018 9:37:19 GMT -5
Kylie Miller transferring? Is that old news? Did she ever redshirt or just has one year remaining? One year remaining She was the starter at the end of the season...I am a little confused as to why she is transferring?
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Post by stanfordvb on Dec 11, 2018 9:40:43 GMT -5
She was the starter at the end of the season...I am a little confused as to why she is transferring? UCLA had a very bad season this year. Didn’t even make the tournament. A testament to the coaching, a couple of high recruits and good players on that team, worst season in decades.
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Post by britney97 on Dec 11, 2018 9:45:46 GMT -5
it’s a little harder for East Coast coaches to recruit elite talent from their own backyard. Definitely see a lot more foreign recruitment over there. Depends on the school. Not ACC, but Rutgers has 9 out of 12, likely a connection to their assistant coach though. Hofstra’s 1/2 their team. Personally, I am against this. 'This' being more than 1 out of every 9 kids on team being from outside the U.S. There are already limited playing opportunities at the collegiate level, even fewer are the number of scholarships. When 25-50-75% of a team is made up of non-US, then American girls (many of whom spent years playing and thousands of dollars) are having their opportunities reduced. I understand wanting to find high quality foreign players & of course wanting to win but there should be a max 3 limit. Jmo of course. When you cannot get conference winning talent to come to your school and your lively-hood is on the line what do you expect these coaches to do? It is easy to say "No you shouldn't recruit too many foreign players", but until you are put in the situation of win or else, it is hard to make those claims.
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