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Post by rainbowbadger on Jan 25, 2019 6:00:32 GMT -5
She just has to get more comfortable and more aware, which will come. Man, y'all are really holding onto that one time she got aced In retrospect, it was pretty funny. |
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Post by SportyBucky on Jan 25, 2019 8:52:07 GMT -5
Wasn’t hart being hailed as being better than tiona in the pre season? Certain posters were suggesting that Hart should play and Williams should sit. That didn’t wind up happening. Hart has a ton of potential. Williams has better court vision, which comes with having 3 more years of collegiate play and a head start in prep. Hart will get there, and quickly, I’m sure. I predict she and Rettke as starting middles next year, with Duello on the right. Hoping we get an OH transfer to push Loberg & Haggerty, but not holding my breath. I think it was really just Shhhh suggesting Hart should start. Like Middle Blocker U, you can consider what comes from him hyperbole. |
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Post by wiscvball on Jan 25, 2019 9:08:14 GMT -5
Man, y'all are really holding onto that one time she got aced In retrospect, it was pretty funny. Haha, I do remember that ace. I also believe it happened more than once (the other one might have been a spring match). You could tell there was an awareness gap when she would come in, which will get better as she has more time on the court with the starting team. I think it was against Nebraska when they were using the situational sub to have her block on the right side and keep Duello on the left. There were a few 'yuck' plays in that match for her where she didn't make a good contact on a tight ball, missed a tip cover she should have had, etc... All easy things to fix with more time on the court. I agree she'll be starting at middle and has tremendous potential. I think she could be an All-B1G/All-American caliber middle. Hilley also seems very comfortable setting her, which wasn't always the case with Williams, until later on in the 2018 season. |
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Post by Wiswell on Jan 25, 2019 12:11:08 GMT -5
Wasn’t hart being hailed as being better than tiona in the pre season? Certain posters were suggesting that Hart should play and Williams should sit. That didn’t wind up happening. Hart has a ton of potential. Williams has better court vision, which comes with having 3 more years of collegiate play and a head start in prep. Hart will get there, and quickly, I’m sure. I predict she and Rettke as starting middles next year, with Duello on the right. Hoping we get an OH transfer to push Loberg & Haggerty, but not holding my breath. Let's call a spade a spade. The current poster was shhhhhhhh who predicted Williams not playing. You're being nice by not mentioning his name. He foresaw or recommended her "on the bench." |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jan 25, 2019 14:08:18 GMT -5
In retrospect, it was pretty funny. Haha, I do remember that ace. I also believe it happened more than once (the other one might have been a spring match). You could tell there was an awareness gap when she would come in, which will get better as she has more time on the court with the starting team. I think it was against Nebraska when they were using the situational sub to have her block on the right side and keep Duello on the left. There were a few 'yuck' plays in that match for her where she didn't make a good contact on a tight ball, missed a tip cover she should have had, etc... All easy things to fix with more time on the court. I agree she'll be starting at middle and has tremendous potential. I think she could be an All-B1G/All-American caliber middle. Hilley also seems very comfortable setting her, which wasn't always the case with Williams, until later on in the 2018 season. All things I recall happening to Williams her freshman year. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Jan 25, 2019 14:24:46 GMT -5
In retrospect, it was pretty funny. Hilley also seems very comfortable setting her, which wasn't always the case with Williams, until later on in the 2018 season. If you take what the coaches say at face value, they were limiting Tionna's reps in practice due to her persistent injuries, especially early in the season. I think a lot of that reluctance on Hilley's part may have been because she was less confident in those sets as a result. I don't think (or at least I hope) Hart doesn't face that particular problem. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 0:43:33 GMT -5
Certain posters were suggesting that Hart should play and Williams should sit. That didn’t wind up happening. Hart has a ton of potential. Williams has better court vision, which comes with having 3 more years of collegiate play and a head start in prep. Hart will get there, and quickly, I’m sure. I predict she and Rettke as starting middles next year, with Duello on the right. Hoping we get an OH transfer to push Loberg & Haggerty, but not holding my breath. Let's call a spade a spade. The current poster was shhhhhhhh who predicted Williams not playing. You're being nice by not mentioning his name. He foresaw or recommended her "on the bench." I still think she should've sat. And you'll have to correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that I said something along the lines of, "Don't be surprised if Williams is on the bench." Something like that. Hart made a big impression in Colorado Springs and had a good summer with USAV, and I think she would've helped the team more if she was given the reps and the chances to improve. Williams was a complete non-factor until the beginning of November, sometimes getting single-digit attempts in matches, and was a really poor blocker. She barely averaged two kills per set. She was just an average player, likely due to all her injuries. And Wisconsin really needed a bigger presence with Rettke off the floor since Haggerty and Loberg were so ineffective and inconsistent. She never proved to be that player. I think Hart could have been. Instead, Sheffield wasted her time making her train on the right. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 1:03:23 GMT -5
My Williams posts, in the interest of full disclosure since y'all are trying to drag me: Here's an interesting possibility: Williams on the bench. Do you think that will happen, regardless of how well the under classmen perform (see: Gillis)? I’m just saying that it’s an idea if they like what Duello brings on the right (see: Walbridge/Wilson). Hart and Rettke made Karch’s group at tryouts. Williams didn’t. I’m sure you know more about Wisconsin ball than me, but is hart really that good to upseat Williams? How do you expect anyone to answer this question when none of us are in the practice gym? I said it was a possibility. Her ceiling is certainly higher. Williams will not be on the bench. Sounds like Wisconsin fans really don't want Hart to be good enough to unseat Williams, despite that being a really, really good thing. Sad! This highlight video from 2016 was one of my favorite reels of her play. Quick, good jumper, hits hard and with severe angles when needed... some of her slides were just nasty. Add 2 years of training and playing everyday against top competition in practice and I’m sure she’s on her way to being a star. I’m telling y’all: don’t be surprised if Williams ends up on the bench. Hart is a special talent. Her offense also dropped during the late season. She hit 0.270 from the Maryland match on (11/4). In the B1G matches before that she hit 0.430. Her blocking dropped to 0.44/s from 1.02/s over the same intervals. That happened in 2016 too. In the second half of the season, her kills fell slightly to 2.22/set, her hitting dropped to .276, and her blocking was down to 1.09/set. And she had Carlini setting her. I don't recall her being injured in 2016. I think Williams is a nice player, but the last two seasons have ended with a precipitous drop in performance in all phases of her game. If Hart can maintain more consistency in the middle through November and December, that's a really exciting thing for Wisconsin. I think this is their best lineup so far this spring, though. Love what Williams can do, but man I think Hart's gonna be really special and way too valuable to just throw on the right. Tionna was 3rd in the Big Ten last year in Hitting percentage behind Haleigh Washington and Dana Rettke. She hit .268 with only 0.44 blocks per set in the last ten matches of the 2017 season. She had similar regressions in her first two seasons as well. IMO, Williams getting worn down through the season (injuries, etc.) and not being healthy enough to put together strong performances in the tourney has been a problem for Wisconsin. They need their experienced terminal attacker to stay healthy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jan 26, 2019 11:04:03 GMT -5
Eh. What’s done is done. I hope they have Hart focus on MB play. Have Wohlert or Gorum train on the right behind Duello, who, I don’t think is going anywhere but RS next year, barring calamity.
I’m excited to see what a spring with Kevin and the S&C program does for Wohlert. We know she has a heavy arm. She needs to get quicker. They can help with that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 13:09:30 GMT -5
Did anyone watch Wohlert in the preseason scrimmage or focus on her in warmups? I am curious how her feet are. You can tell a lot by the feet. Obviously, Rettke's being 6'8" with great feet and quickness at that size is what makes her dominant. But, at that height, that's a rare quality. I haven't ever seen Wohlert in action to know.
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Post by badgerbill on Jan 26, 2019 13:42:21 GMT -5
I recall watching her in warmups. She seemed to move very well for her size. Sheff mentioned that she just needs to get more pop on her arm swing.
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Post by TuesdayGone on Jan 26, 2019 19:55:32 GMT -5
Going to Miss watching Tionna
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Post by badgerbreath on Jan 26, 2019 22:18:18 GMT -5
Well, when I watched them in person, you could tell why Tionna was playing. She did a lot of little things a lot better. The team just played cleaner and faster with her in there, especially in transition, and that is likely down to experience.
Hart will be great going forward with more reps, though. She is a great talent. Hopefully not as limited by injury as Tionna. We'll see.
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Post by TuesdayGone on Jan 29, 2019 0:30:11 GMT -5
"IT's TRUE!"
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Post by badgerbreath on Jan 29, 2019 1:25:17 GMT -5
Some really nice plays there.
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