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Post by eastcoaster on Dec 1, 2004 8:45:51 GMT -5
Alabama RPI 32
Marquette RPI 38
Duke RPI 42
North Carolina 47
Teams that got at Large Bids
Irvine 43
Pacific 44
Loyola Marymount 45
Kansas 63
Northridge 76
Idaho 96
The teams like Idaho and Northridge should not have made the NCAA tournament - the Big West had the 8 best conference RPI - no way did they deserve to have 6 teams (4 yes) - For example the ACC had the 6th best RPI conference and gets 2 teams, the west cost has the 4th best RPI and gets 4 teams, SEC with the 2nd best RPI gets 4 teams. It just dosn't make sense.
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Post by Boom on Dec 1, 2004 9:41:07 GMT -5
No kidding. I looked at the same data and I just do not get it.
As I said before, worst ever job of seeding, placement, etc. Should be discussed at AVCA convention.
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Post by 2c on Dec 1, 2004 10:23:51 GMT -5
Alabama RPI 32 Marquette RPI 38 Duke RPI 42 North Carolina 47 Teams that got at Large Bids Irvine 43 Pacific 44 Loyola Marymount 45 Kansas 63 Northridge 76 Idaho 96 The teams like Idaho and Northridge should not have made the NCAA tournament - the Big West had the 8 best conference RPI - no way did they deserve to have 6 teams (4 yes) - For example the ACC had the 6th best RPI conference and gets 2 teams, the west cost has the 4th best RPI and gets 4 teams, SEC with the 2nd best RPI gets 4 teams. It just dosn't make sense. RPI is a very poor way to determine the best teams. You HAVE to look at results, head-to-head, etc... |
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Post by TheSantaBarbarian on Dec 1, 2004 11:07:31 GMT -5
Alabama RPI 32 Marquette RPI 38 Duke RPI 42 North Carolina 47 Teams that got at Large Bids Irvine 43 Pacific 44 Loyola Marymount 45 Kansas 63 Northridge 76 Idaho 96 The teams like Idaho and Northridge should not have made the NCAA tournament - the Big West had the 8 best conference RPI - no way did they deserve to have 6 teams (4 yes) - For example the ACC had the 6th best RPI conference and gets 2 teams, the west cost has the 4th best RPI and gets 4 teams, SEC with the 2nd best RPI gets 4 teams. It just dosn't make sense. However, if you look at teh Pablo rankings (which most believe is a FAR better rankign system than the RPI) you get a slightly different picture, where the Big West is #5 and just barely behind the WCC. Why didn't the WCC get more teams into the NCAA's? There #5 team had an overall losing record and therefore was inelligble. I admit I have no clue as to how Idaho got into the NCAA's, but there you have it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2004 11:17:36 GMT -5
However, if you look at teh Pablo rankings (which most believe is a FAR better rankign system than the RPI) you get a slightly different picture, where the Big West is #5 and just barely behind the WCC. Why didn't the WCC get more teams into the NCAA's? There #5 team had an overall losing record and therefore was inelligble. I admit I have no clue as to how Idaho got into the NCAA's, but there you have it. The reason the WCC got 4 but no more is because only 4 had overall winning records. Pepperdine finished 5th in the conference, but lost more games than they won overall, and, thus, were not eligible according to NCAA rules. As previously posted, Pep probably wouldn't have had much trouble against 30 or so teams which did get in the Dance. |
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Post by norwis on Dec 1, 2004 12:57:44 GMT -5
I would think many coaches are upset about the seedings and locations of the 1 & 2 rounds. Thankfully, most have enough class to take it in stride and move on.
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Post by SaltNPepper on Dec 1, 2004 13:05:24 GMT -5
It just dosn't make sense. Must be "West Coast Bias"! |
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Dec 1, 2004 13:06:37 GMT -5
I would think many coaches are upset about the seedings and locations of the 1 & 2 rounds. Thankfully, most have enough class to take it in stride and move on. Easy to say when your team gets a free pass to the regionals they are hosting. |
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Post by slider on Dec 1, 2004 17:28:06 GMT -5
Virginia has an RPI of 52 and should also be included in eastcoaster's list. Last year the ACC had 9 teams (before this year's addition of Miami and Virginia Tech), was the fifth RPI conference and had only 2 teams invited. I just don't understand the committee's slighting the ACC for a second year. If RPI is the primary factor considered, it is difficult to see.
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Post by Mumsie on Dec 1, 2004 19:41:59 GMT -5
I admit I have no clue as to how Idaho got into the NCAA's, but there you have it. Maybe the committee ran out of money and needed a team they could BUS to Seattle. Washington State, Oregon and Gonzaga were out, and Eastern Washington didn't beat anyone good (except Idaho  ), so there you have it. IDAHO! ;D Don't be haters. It is what it is. It's not like Idaho gets to play an "easy" team.  "The wheels on the bus go round, round, round..." (Raffi) |
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Dec 1, 2004 20:44:01 GMT -5
Publius, you must have took the same "responding with a quote" class as Beachman.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2004 20:51:09 GMT -5
[quote author= BiK link=board=general&thread=1101908751&start=10#0 date=1101951841]Publius, you must have took the same "responding with a quote" class as Beachman. [/quote] BiK, how did you know I was just about ready to post something on this thread? Are you Clair Voyant (with the grass skirt and all)? AND, I will thank you not to damn me with faint praise. |
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Dec 1, 2004 20:53:23 GMT -5
BiK, how did you know I was just about ready to post something on this thread? Are you Clair Voyant (with the grass skirt and all)? AND, I will thank you not to damn me with faint praise. I think you mean Clairvoyant. I don't know the other Claire. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2004 20:55:11 GMT -5
[quote author= Mumsie[/b][/color] link=board=general&thread=1101908751&start=9#0 date=1101948119] Maybe the committee ran out of money and needed a team they could BUS to Seattle. Washington State, Oregon and Gonzaga were out, and Eastern Washington didn't beat anyone good (except Idaho ), so there you have it. IDAHO! ;D Don't be haters. It is what it is. It's not like Idaho gets to play an "easy" team. "The wheels on the bus go round, round, round..." (Raffi)[/quote] Anyway, as I was about to say before my computer was hijacked, lol! Mumsie, you are too funny. I look forward to seeing Santa Clara play the Vandals after they have reduced the Huskies to dogmats. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2004 21:00:49 GMT -5
[quote author= BiK link=board=general&thread=1101908751&start=12#0 date=1101952403] I think you mean Clairvoyant. I don't know the other Claire. [/quote] Is she the one--the French one, who people always confused with Mme. Peppie La Pue-- who always kept telling you, "You stop resisting me, and I, I will stop resisting you." |
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), so there you have it. IDAHO! ;D
