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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Apr 26, 2019 6:49:39 GMT -5
Yeah, if it grazes a pony tail on it's way out of bounds, it doesn't count as a touch. Seen it come up on challenges before.
Good rule, imo. Otherwise it would be like "we want to offer you a scholarship, but your hair is kinda frizzy. Could you maybe sheer it off?"
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Post by justahick on Apr 26, 2019 7:08:11 GMT -5
You're right when you say there are a few different situations that can occur. (All situations first team contact) Ball rolls up the arm (or whatever) and is constantly in contact with the body and never changes direction - legal - classified as multiple contacts with one attempt to play the ball Ball rolls up the arm (or whatever) and is constantly in contact with the body and player moves in a way to cause a change in direction (think swinging the arm to fling the ball off it) - illegal - caught ball Ball rolls up the arm (or whatever), breaks contact and then touch the player again (player doesn't cause the second contact) - legal - multiple contacts, one attempt to play the ball Ball rolls up the arm (or whatever), breaks contact and then the player makes a move to touch the ball again - illegal - that is a double, (almost never happens and is called even less) Ball is played cleanly off the arms into the player's chest - legal - two contacts, one attempt to play the ball Ball is played cleanly off the players chest, then the player make a move with the arms to play the ball up - illegal - multiple contacts, multiple attempts to play the ball (fairly uncommon, should be called more often than it is) - similar play is in the USAV advanced ball handling training module NCAA rule 14.2.2 Caught or Thrown Ball The ball must be hit cleanly and not caught or thrown. Prolonged contact with the ball is a fault. The ball can rebound in any direction. 14.2.3 Successive Contacts 14.2.3.1 During blocking or during the team’s first hit, successive contacts with various parts of the player’s body are permitted in a single attempt to play the ball. Prolonged contact is a fault in these actions. "ball rolls up the arm" is prolonged contact, and it is a fault even on first hit. So all four of the above rolls up examples are illegal contacts in NCAA. In NCAA, USAV and FIVB (can't speak for NHFS) prolonged contact means the ball stays in one place, it doesn't mean the ball moves along the body. Under these rule sets, a ball rolling along the body is considered multiple contacts.
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Post by eazy on Apr 26, 2019 13:07:08 GMT -5
NCAA rule 14.2.2 Caught or Thrown Ball The ball must be hit cleanly and not caught or thrown. Prolonged contact with the ball is a fault. The ball can rebound in any direction. 14.2.3 Successive Contacts 14.2.3.1 During blocking or during the team’s first hit, successive contacts with various parts of the player’s body are permitted in a single attempt to play the ball. Prolonged contact is a fault in these actions. "ball rolls up the arm" is prolonged contact, and it is a fault even on first hit. So all four of the above rolls up examples are illegal contacts in NCAA. In NCAA, USAV and FIVB (can't speak for NHFS) prolonged contact means the ball stays in one place, it doesn't mean the ball moves along the body. Under these rule sets, a ball rolling along the body is considered multiple contacts. I honestly (and obviously) did not know that distinction so I am trusting you. With that being the case, I wonder if more people were aware of the distinction if there would be more of an attempt to let the ball roll along the body in some situations on first contacts on purpose. I could see a scenario in which a player recognizes that their platform is facing the wrong direction too late and tries to shift their angle as they let the ball roll down their arms. Would take some practice, but if mastered it could be useful on tough float serves that move a lot.
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