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Post by robertmotley on Dec 2, 2004 17:55:26 GMT -5
I was wondering if there is other reasons as well Robert, but I think I saw somewhere that receipt guarantee is only $4,000? even with our regular season attendance that would be pretty feasible. The administrators said they were not going to submit a bid basically because they are incompetent and couldn't leave the weekend open for volleyball. (my interpretations obviously, but if they want incompetence to be the excuse, so be it)... I would think lack of attendance would have been a better excuse? Our administration has a brief history (at least) of erroring on the side of not taking the time to fill in a bid that it thinks will be insufficient anyway, so it could have been attendance or the games or too many other events this weekend (if volleyball were here it would mean seven events in 3 days and that's a lot for a town our size where fans of sports overlap).... but the stated reason is incompetence, and I'll buy that. thanks for the thoughtful reply to my innocent question  Isnt there another gym on campus up there? LB has the Gold Mine gym we can use as a back up. |
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Post by TheSantaBarbarian on Dec 2, 2004 18:12:10 GMT -5
thanks for the thoughtful reply to my innocent question Isnt there another gym on campus up there? LB has the Gold Mine gym we can use as a back up. No, Rob Gym isn't wired (phone lines etc.) to NCAA specs. |
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Post by GauchoDon on Dec 2, 2004 18:13:38 GMT -5
The other gym (Rob Gym) apparently isn't wired enough for today's NCAA tournament standards.
We played Cal Poly there at the start of the season as the Thunderdome's floor was being refinished and it's bigger than the gym that Georgia Tech is hosting in.
The administration did the same thing for women's basketball last season and told everyone they were not going to submit a bid because they were deficient in over half of the stated requirements. Either public outcry (we had more time for it as it was a summer submission period) or a specific request by the NCAA to submit a bid forced the administration to submit a bid which was ultimately successful (they actually went to the other extreme and overbid from what I remember)
I'm not sure how long it takes to complete a bid (we hosted two or three years ago, one would think it would not be that difficult to copy and change the appropriate info to say Rob Gym and put in an obviously deficient bid anyway just to see if it's better than others obviously deficient bids (phone lines are the only issue?)... but it would have made for a very busy weekend and I'm not sure what the additional attendance would have been... A small group of us might go to 6 or 7 events in a weekend (or at least these 7 i would have), but most will not.
;D Anyway, they've supposedly looked into what Microsoft outlook and a palm pilot for an assistant AD costs so they can schedule the games ;D
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Post by robertmotley on Dec 2, 2004 18:14:50 GMT -5
No, Rob Gym isn't wired (phone lines etc.) to NCAA specs. So how about shifting basketball to the other gym? |
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Post by GauchoDon on Dec 2, 2004 18:24:39 GMT -5
So how about shifting basketball to the other gym? That would make way too much sense, except it would anger the basketball boosters (men's and women's since both would probably have to be moved) and then it becomes a money issue. Actually I think basketball needs the phone lines for radio broadcasts, so it needs to be in the Thunderdome... The real issue is probably more one of, "if they only issue is really phone lines, then it why not just add the phone lines to Rob Gym so you have two viable gyms?" Which may be a good question, but it all really doesn't matter right now since we won't get to see the game anyway... We'll just have to settle for: Friday4pm Radio and gametracker of Volleyball vs Alabama A&M (hopefully a win) 7pm Women's Basketball hosting #13 Purdue Saturday11am Radio and gametracker of Volleyball vs Georgia/Tech 3pm Men's Basketball home opener 7pm Men's Soccer NCAA Elite 8 hosting VCU Sunday2pm Women's Basketball hosting Oregon State So it's still a nice packed weekend  |
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Post by TheSantaBarbarian on Dec 2, 2004 18:31:39 GMT -5
So how about shifting basketball to the other gym? I think telling the UCSB Women's Basketball season ticket holders that they were going to be crammed into Rob Gym would make the Hawaii response to being sent away seem like a firecracker next to the A-Bomb. In addition, they would have had to move a men's hoops game as well. (I think if it was just a Men's hoops game it might have been doable.) It might have been REALLY interesting if UCSB had hosted the 1st two rounds with the men's soccar team hosting the round of 8 match also this weekend. |
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Post by TheSantaBarbarian on Dec 2, 2004 18:34:16 GMT -5
Hey SB, don't you think that the "verbiage" that you used in this kind of "invited" a response? Actually, my verbage was really intended to head of another BIK whine when he read bit in the article where it said teams were guarenteed to host if they were seeded. Obviously I was unsuccessful. |
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Post by GauchoDon on Dec 2, 2004 18:37:13 GMT -5
(I think if it was just a Men's hoops game it might have been doable.) I was thinking the same thing, which makes an interesting spin... The Purdue game was originally scheduled for today, which presumably might have left enough time to have games tomorrow and Saturday afternoon and get the court changed in time for the men's game which was scheduled for 7pm until the elite 8 game happened... but then when the elite eight game happened it would have really created problems. The simplest explanation may be that they didn't want to have volleyball and Soccer competing. It was about the same time that they announced that they would not submit a volleyball bid as that they were submitting a bid for soccer to host all the way through... So maybe volleyball having never made it to the final four, lost out to soccer who should be a legitimate contender for UCSBs first national championship in 25 years (and has the potential to draw a bigger crowd than volleyball would ) |
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Post by UCSBVball on Dec 2, 2004 18:47:48 GMT -5
It seems UCSB wants to keep all sports other then basketball low on the priority list. Once suggested to an English professor that a course on sports writing would be an appropriate course and articles written on UCSB sports could be submitted to the local newspaper. The answer was that sports writing was not part of the curriculum.
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Post by GauchoYoungin on Dec 2, 2004 18:52:36 GMT -5
KCSB has to get a phone line installed in the gym down in Georgia in order to broadcast. Also, the broadcast might have to be down over a phone and not a telefax due to the fact that KCSB is also broadcasting the soccer game over the weekend and it would be really impossible to get the telefax back here. So quality might be low, but you will still be able to hear the game on-line or on the radio if close enough to SB. I don't think our AD would really like to put more wires into Rob Gym even if it was possible. If someone did that it might seem like they were trying to be nice and do something for the fans, and that is just a christmas gift that not even Santa can bring us. Can't wait for this weekend, it is going to be insane.
GO GAUCHOS!!!
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Post by GauchoDon on Dec 2, 2004 19:06:47 GMT -5
KCSB has to get a phone line installed in the gym down in Georgia in order to broadcast. GO GAUCHOS!!! That fits my point about obviously deficient bids perfectly.  |
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Post by 7thWoman on Dec 3, 2004 9:40:37 GMT -5
Hey GauchoDon, do you work at UCSB? Just curious. The scheduling conflict doesn't surprise me in the least. And whether or not it would be feasible to play in Rob Gym doesn't seem to me to be all that important.
It seems to me that the real issue is simply that it's easier to just say we're not going to host and not worry about it anymore, than it is to scramble and try to fix our mistake. It's sort of a lack of forsight, attention to detail, and motivation that is a common theme among the administrative bodies of this campus, from Facilities Management's incompetence, to Parking Services' lack of services, to Information Systems and Computing rolling out mandatory billing systems that require 3 year old web browsers to use. When it comes to management, this campus is, quite simply, a clusterf**k. There is no other word that comes close to describing the situation here. I even hear that Facilities Management officially changed their name to Physical Facilities a few years ago because they didn't like the nickname everyone was calling them (F**k Management).
The atheltics department is simply living up to the standards of the rest of this campus.
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Post by I Luv Danny R on Dec 3, 2004 10:11:40 GMT -5
Good Luck Gauchos!!!
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