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Post by jasonr on Jan 3, 2020 12:55:05 GMT -5
Notre Dame isn’t that far. No one considering Jurevicious's dad was a big-time football player at Penn State? I would assume they are in the running. PSU wasn't among the three schools I heard she was most interested in, but I'm guessing she would at least give them a look when official visits start.
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Post by volleyparent on Jan 3, 2020 13:41:13 GMT -5
How do you all think the new rules will change the process of these high level recruits? Will they do their own legwork before Aug/September of their junior year and decide when they get the offers? Will they wait and use the school's $ to do the official visits in the fall of their junior year? How will the coaches respond?
My concern: the schools will give them LESS time to make decisions. Example: They will make offers in June and give them 2 weeks to make a decision.
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Post by jasonr on Jan 3, 2020 13:55:58 GMT -5
How do you all think the new rules will change the process of these high level recruits? Will they do their own legwork before Aug/September of their junior year and decide when they get the offers? Will they wait and use the school's $ to do the official visits in the fall of their junior year? How will the coaches respond? My concern: the schools will give them LESS time to make decisions. Example: They will make offers in June and give them 2 weeks to make a decision. The effects will mostly be felt downstream. Many of the top kids were already offered and had communication with coaches before the rules changed. However, because of the late official visit schedule, the "non-elite" recruits will be on an expedited schedule to choose their schools after the blue chip dominoes fall. I don't think these rules will last too long. They're the result of a vocal minority. For every family that thought the old system was stressful, many more were fine with it. Many families want ample time for unofficial and official visits, relationship building, etc. They want to know where their kid is going to school well ahead of NLI day. That's not to say a free-for-all is great, but the new rules weren't well thought out. We'll have to go through various iterations to find a nice balance.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 13:59:25 GMT -5
How do you all think the new rules will change the process of these high level recruits? Will they do their own legwork before Aug/September of their junior year and decide when they get the offers? Will they wait and use the school's $ to do the official visits in the fall of their junior year? How will the coaches respond? My concern: the schools will give them LESS time to make decisions. Example: They will make offers in June and give them 2 weeks to make a decision. For the 10 or so highest level recruits, it will likely be different as they will know who is interested in them (club coaches can still be called and asked about how players practice etc. but no indication of recruiting desire can be communicated (but why would a college coach care to ask about anything if they were not interested)). I think the larger change will be for the other couple thousand girls. Within this group, the rule changes make some things pretty awkward while helping on others. The delay to June 15/Aug 15 of Sophomore year will help the SAs actually decide where they can play at AND where they want to attend before spamming as a 14 year old. I would think that starting with the 15s club season, SAs will start making video and sending out highlights to coaches at schools they think they want to attend. But, they cannot talk or receive return emails so this will be an uncomfortable feeling (one sided conversation). So, by their 16s year (soph in HS) they will likely narrow down how many schools they are keeping up to date (hopefully in a thoughtful way). Where it gets awkward is there is no feedback on where the SA should visit for camp in the Summer between Soph and JR year. It would be extremely helpful for the schools to be able to help the SAs by saying "no interest" so the SAs are not wasting their now very limited time to visit and prune. A mid level (but recruitable) player can really only make 3 summer camps if they play high level club and HS. Making sure that those three schools actually have some interest would be helpful to both parties.
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Post by Kingsley on Jan 3, 2020 14:11:05 GMT -5
What's the scoop on Mele Corral-Blagojevich?
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Post by n00b on Jan 3, 2020 14:22:13 GMT -5
My concern: the schools will give them LESS time to make decisions. Example: They will make offers in June and give them 2 weeks to make a decision. Either schools will cheat and make it known that the kid has a scholarship waiting for her if she wants it OR the above will happen.
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Post by rassle on Jan 7, 2020 5:54:46 GMT -5
The names I heard the most last spring when talking to the coaches I know were: Blyashov, Byrd, Jurevicius, Murray, and Helmers. No particular order, but those players came up a lot. Certainly not an exhaustive list, I'm sure there are other great pin hitters in that class, but I could tell they were excited about those girls in particular. Who is Byrd?
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Post by Friday on Jan 7, 2020 7:27:58 GMT -5
How do you all think the new rules will change the process of these high level recruits? Will they do their own legwork before Aug/September of their junior year and decide when they get the offers? Will they wait and use the school's $ to do the official visits in the fall of their junior year? How will the coaches respond? My concern: the schools will give them LESS time to make decisions. Example: They will make offers in June and give them 2 weeks to make a decision. For the 10 or so highest level recruits, it will likely be different as they will know who is interested in them (club coaches can still be called and asked about how players practice etc. but no indication of recruiting desire can be communicated (but why would a college coach care to ask about anything if they were not interested)). I think the larger change will be for the other couple thousand girls. Within this group, the rule changes make some things pretty awkward while helping on others. The delay to June 15/Aug 15 of Sophomore year will help the SAs actually decide where they can play at AND where they want to attend before spamming as a 14 year old. I would think that starting with the 15s club season, SAs will start making video and sending out highlights to coaches at schools they think they want to attend. But, they cannot talk or receive return emails so this will be an uncomfortable feeling (one sided conversation). So, by their 16s year (soph in HS) they will likely narrow down how many schools they are keeping up to date (hopefully in a thoughtful way). Where it gets awkward is there is no feedback on where the SA should visit for camp in the Summer between Soph and JR year. It would be extremely helpful for the schools to be able to help the SAs by saying "no interest" so the SAs are not wasting their now very limited time to visit and prune. A mid level (but recruitable) player can really only make 3 summer camps if they play high level club and HS. Making sure that those three schools actually have some interest would be helpful to both parties. Unfortunately camps are going to become more important including the increasingly popular spring 1-2 day clinics. Those basically become unofficial visits. SAs just won’t have much if any idea who is interested so they could be wasting time and/or money or they could be helping themselves. It will be interesting to see how the June 15 deadline plays out with the 2022s. Is there going to be a race or push to get girls to commit before they have a chance to talk to and visit schools or will they be given time to make a decision?
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Post by jasonr on Jan 7, 2020 8:41:58 GMT -5
The names I heard the most last spring when talking to the coaches I know were: Blyashov, Byrd, Jurevicius, Murray, and Helmers. No particular order, but those players came up a lot. Certainly not an exhaustive list, I'm sure there are other great pin hitters in that class, but I could tell they were excited about those girls in particular. Who is Byrd? Jordyn Byrd. There is a good chance that she chooses to play basketball in college. She already has many D1 hoop offers.
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Post by n00b on Jan 7, 2020 9:16:32 GMT -5
For the 10 or so highest level recruits, it will likely be different as they will know who is interested in them (club coaches can still be called and asked about how players practice etc. but no indication of recruiting desire can be communicated (but why would a college coach care to ask about anything if they were not interested)). I think the larger change will be for the other couple thousand girls. Within this group, the rule changes make some things pretty awkward while helping on others. The delay to June 15/Aug 15 of Sophomore year will help the SAs actually decide where they can play at AND where they want to attend before spamming as a 14 year old. I would think that starting with the 15s club season, SAs will start making video and sending out highlights to coaches at schools they think they want to attend. But, they cannot talk or receive return emails so this will be an uncomfortable feeling (one sided conversation). So, by their 16s year (soph in HS) they will likely narrow down how many schools they are keeping up to date (hopefully in a thoughtful way). Where it gets awkward is there is no feedback on where the SA should visit for camp in the Summer between Soph and JR year. It would be extremely helpful for the schools to be able to help the SAs by saying "no interest" so the SAs are not wasting their now very limited time to visit and prune. A mid level (but recruitable) player can really only make 3 summer camps if they play high level club and HS. Making sure that those three schools actually have some interest would be helpful to both parties. Unfortunately camps are going to become more important including the increasingly popular spring 1-2 day clinics. Those basically become unofficial visits. SAs just won’t have much if any idea who is interested so they could be wasting time and/or money or they could be helping themselves. It will be interesting to see how the June 15 deadline plays out with the 2022s. Is there going to be a race or push to get girls to commit before they have a chance to talk to and visit schools or will they be given time to make a decision? So the new rule makes freshmen and sophomores PAY to go on college visits on very specific dates instead of being able to stop by campus for free whenever they wanted.
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Post by justahick on Jan 7, 2020 9:30:23 GMT -5
Unfortunately camps are going to become more important including the increasingly popular spring 1-2 day clinics. Those basically become unofficial visits. SAs just won’t have much if any idea who is interested so they could be wasting time and/or money or they could be helping themselves. It will be interesting to see how the June 15 deadline plays out with the 2022s. Is there going to be a race or push to get girls to commit before they have a chance to talk to and visit schools or will they be given time to make a decision? So the new rule makes freshmen and sophomores PAY to go on college visits on very specific dates instead of being able to stop by campus for free whenever they wanted. They are still welcomed to go on the same college visits that all other HS students go on. They just aren't allowed to meet with the coaches. Also, it is fairly likely that the one day camps are going to legislated away after this year...most likely camps will be restricted to the summer.
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Post by Friday on Jan 7, 2020 9:31:44 GMT -5
Unfortunately camps are going to become more important including the increasingly popular spring 1-2 day clinics. Those basically become unofficial visits. SAs just won’t have much if any idea who is interested so they could be wasting time and/or money or they could be helping themselves. It will be interesting to see how the June 15 deadline plays out with the 2022s. Is there going to be a race or push to get girls to commit before they have a chance to talk to and visit schools or will they be given time to make a decision? So the new rule makes freshmen and sophomores PAY to go on college visits on very specific dates instead of being able to stop by campus for free whenever they wanted. Correct. And they don't know for sure if school is interested in them since theoretically they haven't talk to them (although many 2022s may have before new rules went into place). And with the limited free time between tournaments etc alot of the camps will fall on the same weekend so you will have to pick and choose. It will be interesting to see how it goes with the 2022 class this summer. I think it is going to be a wild ride.
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Post by stanfordvb on Jan 7, 2020 13:31:54 GMT -5
That kiva 15s team has 3 players capable of playing at top 10 colleges. Kenzie maloneys little sister is the libero, a 6’3 middle and a 6’3 OH who can swing from both pins. The middle, naya bunton has extreme interest from Nebraska.
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Post by jasonr on Jan 7, 2020 14:10:43 GMT -5
That kiva 15s team has 3 players capable of playing at top 10 colleges. Kenzie maloneys little sister is the libero, a 6’3 middle and a 6’3 OH who can swing from both pins. The middle, naya bunton has extreme interest from Nebraska. Helmers is the pin.
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Post by stanfordvb on Jan 7, 2020 14:24:57 GMT -5
That kiva 15s team has 3 players capable of playing at top 10 colleges. Kenzie maloneys little sister is the libero, a 6’3 middle and a 6’3 OH who can swing from both pins. The middle, naya bunton has extreme interest from Nebraska. Helmers is the pin. Yes, she has interest from Pepperdine and Ohio state I’ve heard, but she could certainly go to much better programs
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