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Post by hwnstunner on May 4, 2019 13:07:06 GMT -5
Is there any conversation to change the fake double-elimination format? Seems inherently unfair. I know you want a true single national championship match, but there are a couple other options. Softball uses two separate 4-team double elimination to set up their championship series. Or you could play a golden set (everybody plays one to 15) if the team coming through the losers bracket knocks off the undefeated team. I've always disliked the current championship match format. If its a double-elimination leading into the championship match, it should be double-elimation for the title. Just my opinion.
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Post by newbeach on May 4, 2019 13:22:48 GMT -5
Not sure what the wind will be like tomorrow, but that could be a factor for everyone. Is this the 1st time all year, that anyone plays on a real beach? They all play on on-campus facilities, protected from winds for the most part. ? Most of these teams have played on "real" beaches several times this season.
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Post by ciscokeed on May 4, 2019 13:23:16 GMT -5
Just a general observation on the matches, watching on TV today. I saw a lot of collegiate beach volleyball in its initial years-2010/2011. You saw very expected play. Very few players took advantage of serving into the wind and defense was way ahead of offense. Shots were really not crisp. High line would go 15’ and cutties and dink’s were not particularly sharp. Now I know there are tons of beach clubs all over and kids are putting in a lot of hours...but when I watched today I saw many of the same issues. Shots not particularly crisp and only a handful of servers that really took advantage of the wind...I know it’s a limited sample by me, but I was hoping to see more players with true beach offense. Still I am stoked beyond belief that we have beach volleyball on TV.
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Post by Winbabywin on May 4, 2019 13:40:21 GMT -5
Not sure what the wind will be like tomorrow, but that could be a factor for everyone. Is this the 1st time all year, that anyone plays on a real beach? They all play on on-campus facilities, protected from winds for the most part. ? Most of these teams have played on "real" beaches several times this season. I was just asking: What several beaches are you referring to? I know Manhattan was mentioned
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Post by houdini on May 4, 2019 13:41:05 GMT -5
Yes, great TV. And more comparative statistics would help grow the popularity of the sport. Blocks per game. Attack efficiency. Defensive digs & touches. All that would help the standout players become true stars to grow the game's popularity. Most sports have "records" for stats . Beach volleyball has only team win / loss records.
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Post by trollhunter on May 4, 2019 13:45:00 GMT -5
Is there any conversation to change the fake double-elimination format? Seems inherently unfair. I know you want a true single national championship match, but there are a couple other options. Softball uses two separate 4-team double elimination to set up their championship series. Or you could play a golden set (everybody plays one to 15) if the team coming through the losers bracket knocks off the undefeated team. My guess is that they will go to single elimination format as the field expands, like most NCAA sports. Win or go home
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on May 4, 2019 13:56:25 GMT -5
? Most of these teams have played on "real" beaches several times this season. I was just asking: What several beaches are you referring to? I know Manhattan was mentioned While only a handful of programs play full time on a beach anymore, there are a good number of events available during the season - invitationals, tournaments and the like. Siesta Key, Zuma, Pismo, Santa Cruz, Queen’s, Manhattan, Playa del Rey all come to mind. Not the same ad playing full time on the beach, of course, but most schools get beach time during the season.
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Post by newbeach on May 4, 2019 14:08:50 GMT -5
? Most of these teams have played on "real" beaches several times this season. I was just asking: What several beaches are you referring to? I know Manhattan was mentioned Queen's Beach in Hawai'i, Zuma Beach in Malibu, Pismo Beach to name a few.
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Post by staticb on May 4, 2019 14:48:08 GMT -5
Is there any conversation to change the fake double-elimination format? Seems inherently unfair. I know you want a true single national championship match, but there are a couple other options. Softball uses two separate 4-team double elimination to set up their championship series. Or you could play a golden set (everybody plays one to 15) if the team coming through the losers bracket knocks off the undefeated team. I've always disliked the current championship match format. If its a double-elimination leading into the championship match, it should be double-elimation for the title. Just my opinion. I understood they want a single “made for TV” Championship but if the one-loss team wins it should at least go into sudden death or something. Either 5 flights play a single game or each team selects one flight in a winner take all.
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Post by staticb on May 4, 2019 14:53:00 GMT -5
Just a general observation on the matches, watching on TV today. I saw a lot of collegiate beach volleyball in its initial years-2010/2011. You saw very expected play. Very few players took advantage of serving into the wind and defense was way ahead of offense. Shots were really not crisp. High line would go 15’ and cutties and dink’s were not particularly sharp. Now I know there are tons of beach clubs all over and kids are putting in a lot of hours...but when I watched today I saw many of the same issues. Shots not particularly crisp and only a handful of servers that really took advantage of the wind...I know it’s a limited sample by me, but I was hoping to see more players with true beach offense. Still I am stoked beyond belief that we have beach volleyball on TV. In 2012, I would have laughed if you told me a player like Kerri Walsh (love her) would still be around in 2020. Mainly because college beach vball was going to grow, the player pool would be larger and there would just be much more competition. I admit the quality hasn’t necessarily grown as fast as I expected. (But I do think at the top flights it has)
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Post by socal3 on May 4, 2019 15:20:51 GMT -5
I was disappointed with FSU’s performance and their decisions at the net in particular. Saw blockers on multiple courts and on several occasions choose to stay at the net to block instead of drop and dig when the set was WAY off the net. Made it super easy for USC to find open court time and time again. Since it happened so often and no adjustments were made, I have to deduce this is part of Brook Nile’s coaching instruction. That was very surprising and unexpected from what I thought would be a well coached, disciplined FSU squad.
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Post by sandball on May 4, 2019 16:37:07 GMT -5
UCLA beach volleyball aims to build championship culture
Video: UCLA Daily Bruins
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Post by tamz on May 4, 2019 21:33:24 GMT -5
Not a good day for the Seminoles and Nick Lucena today.
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Post by staticb on May 4, 2019 22:24:19 GMT -5
I was disappointed with FSU’s performance and their decisions at the net in particular. Saw blockers on multiple courts and on several occasions choose to stay at the net to block instead of drop and dig when the set was WAY off the net. Made it super easy for USC to find open court time and time again. Since it happened so often and no adjustments were made, I have to deduce this is part of Brook Nile’s coaching instruction. That was very surprising and unexpected from what I thought would be a well coached, disciplined FSU squad. I do think it was the strategy at least for this match, USC has a lot of aggressive swingers.
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Post by sandball on May 4, 2019 23:56:31 GMT -5
2019 NCAA Beach Volleyball ChampionshipGulf Place Beach, Gulf Shores, Alabama May 3 ( videos , articles) 9am Dual 1: #8 Stetson def. #1 USC 3-1 (!) 10am Dual 2: #5 LSU def. #4 Pepperdine 3-011am Dual 3: #2 UCLA def. #7 Hawaii 3-212pm Dual 4: #3 Florida State def. #6 Cal Poly 3-0 1pm Dual 5: #1 USC def. #4 Pepperdine 3-0 (Loser's Bracket) 2pm Dual 6: #7 Hawaii def. #6 Cal Poly 3-0 (Loser's Bracket) 3pm Dual 7: #5 LSU def. #8 Stetson 3-2 (Winner's Bracket) 4pm Dual 8: #2 UCLA def. #3 Florida State 3-0 (Winner's Bracket) May 4 9am Dual 9: #1 USC def. #3 Florida State 3-1 (Loser's Bracket) 10am Dual 10: #7 Hawaii def. #8 Stetson 3-0 (Loser's Bracket) 11pm Dual 11: #2 UCLA def. #5 LSU 3-0 (Winner's Bracket) 12pm Dual 12: #1 USC def. Hawaii 3-0 (Loser's Bracket) May 5 9:30am Dual 13: #1 USC def. #5 LSU 3-2 (Loser's Bracket) 1pm Dual 14: #2 UCLA vs. #1 USC (Final)
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