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Post by hammer on May 18, 2019 22:44:12 GMT -5
Hardly surprising Singer would recommend checking the minorities box. Given the sums of money involved I'm sure he looked for any exploitable hole.
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Post by Wolfgang on May 19, 2019 12:21:02 GMT -5
Most of the parents were probably opposed to such blatant lies because it just seems so wrong to state you were Black when you’re not, even if they were fine with the lies on other parts of the application. People apply situational morality and ethics all the time.
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Post by hammer on May 19, 2019 12:58:32 GMT -5
Most of the parents were probably opposed to such blatant lies because it just seems so wrong to state you were Black when you’re not, even if they were fine with the lies on other parts of the application. People apply situational morality and ethics all the time. I can see that. Singer, OTOH, apparently had no qualms suggesting that his clients "check the box". I'm wondering if there are other shoes that will drop -- either other specialists running similar operations or other back door techniques that haven't surfaced.
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Post by Wolfgang on May 19, 2019 15:58:44 GMT -5
The best thing to do, if you really wanted to exploit the ethnic minority angle, is to legally change your name. But you must have enough foresight to do this really early in the game.
When I was a grad TA, some of my students had names that didn’t match my expectations from their appearance. There was a “Martinez” who looked Scottish/Irish with red hair; a “Wong” who looked 100% White; a “Kang” who looked 100% Black (although a lot of African Blacks have names that seem Asian, see, e.g., Ndamukong Suh); and many many blonde “Gonzales” and many white kids with Hispanic first names like “Mario,” “Jose,” and “Juanita.” A lot of them changed their names when their parent remarried to an ethnic minority while others were partially ethnic even though you couldn’t tell — or so they said.
I pity the white kid whose name is "Bob Johnson." I mean even the college admissions officer must get bored when they encounter his application.
Me, personally, I would’ve changed my name to “Rafael.”
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Post by shawty on May 19, 2019 16:17:18 GMT -5
Hopefully this NYT article sheds some light on the myth of the minority advantage in college admission... The share of black freshmen at elite schools is virtually unchanged since 1980. Black students are just 6 percent of freshmen but 15 percent of college-age Americans... More Hispanics are attending elite schools, but the increase has not kept up with the huge growth of young Hispanics in the United States, so the gap between students and the college-age population has widened. www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/24/us/affirmative-action.html
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Post by Wolfgang on May 20, 2019 17:39:46 GMT -5
I was at the check-out line and glanced at the National Enquirer headline (going by memory):
Lori Loughlin breakdown - depressed and suicidal - refuses to eat - blames spoiled kids
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Post by hammer on May 20, 2019 18:00:32 GMT -5
Standing in the checkout line at the grocery store is one of those Mundane Things of Life, but I have to admit sneaking a peak at the gossip magazines does allow me to keep up with Meghan and Prince Harry.
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Post by mikegarrison on May 20, 2019 18:18:18 GMT -5
I pity the white kid whose name is "Bob Johnson." I mean even the college admissions officer must get bored when they encounter his application.
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Post by bayarea on May 20, 2019 21:28:32 GMT -5
One client named Marjorie Klapper, a wealthy co-owner of a jewelry business in Melo Park, California listed her son as black and Hispanic on his application
Beyond all the other ridiculous things, what, in God's name, was Marjorie doing, filling out her son's college application??? Kids have to create an account with a password, to apply for colleges. This kid must have completely abdicated responsibility for his own college applications, or else she told him to lie and he did it. She would have almost certainly had someone completely write his essays, etc. How is an ordinary kid supposed to write their own application and compete with this?
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Post by ironhammer on May 20, 2019 21:37:45 GMT -5
Me, personally, I would’ve changed my name to “Rafael.” And also change your last name to "Nadal" while you are at it.
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Post by hammer on May 20, 2019 22:40:56 GMT -5
Me, personally, I would’ve changed my name to “Rafael.” And also change your last name to "Nadal" while you are at it. He needs to check the Aleutian Islander box ... that's an automatic in at most schools. Nadal may not work. How about "Atka Kip Kayak" ... this name clearly says "Aleut".
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Post by ned3vball on May 21, 2019 5:02:15 GMT -5
It is getting intense out there. Here is an actual headline on one of those college sites. "The Ultimate Admissions Guide: 75 steps For Getting into Your Dream College". No wonder parents and outside help is needed.
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Post by hammer on May 21, 2019 18:10:48 GMT -5
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Post by Wolfgang on May 21, 2019 18:12:36 GMT -5
Who the hell is Ciara? LOL
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Post by mikegarrison on May 21, 2019 18:36:51 GMT -5
Who the hell is Ciara? LOL A singer. Russell Wilson's wife. And before you ask, Russell Wilson is the QB of the Seattle Seahawks.
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