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Post by ironhammer on Apr 1, 2019 4:35:01 GMT -5
If the college girls that you were talking will play in Indonesia, Philippines, Vietnam, Argentina, Dominican Rep you are probably right. But if you are talking about the above leagues mentioned, NO. Lol. I just watched a youtube video of a Vietnam league club team for some perspective, even that appeared a bit better than the snippets I had seen. Yes. Bottom line, the top leagues like Turkey, Italy, Russia, Brazil, China and Japan are FAR above NCAA-level college volleyball. The speed is faster, errors are less, i.e. shanking an otherwise easy ball might be undesirable but you may get a pass on it in some college programs but that will simply be intolerable for some top pro teams. They expect a lot more from you. You are also expected to spend a lot more time in the gym and so on. One should be careful about making broad statements about one's presumption about the level of pro volleyball just by looking at some random clips. That would be like someone dissing pro-level basketball just by looking at clips from games in the pro league in Liberia or Uganda and completely ignoring the NBA. I speak from experience. I was watching some random clips of cricket once and commented how boring it looked on a forum, only for the cricket experts to correct me about the finer points of the game. The less competitive/lower level pro leagues however (i.e. Germany, Sweden, Philippines) might be more comparable to college volleyball, the weakest ones may be even less competitive than D1.
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Post by mapuan on Apr 1, 2019 11:08:55 GMT -5
^^Germany has a strong league. It is the jumping point of NCAA players who didn't get recruited by top clubs or players who still want to play the game but already reached their ceilings. 2nd tier compared to Italy and Turkey but definitely better than NCAA.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Apr 1, 2019 11:58:36 GMT -5
What country was it? And what division in that country? There's a good chance an American is playing on a team that isn't fully professional, and may be the only "pro" on court.
And it could be like club because in some of these lower divisions, the teams basically are high school teams, with one recently-graduated American.
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Post by ironhammer on Apr 1, 2019 18:35:50 GMT -5
^^Germany has a strong league. It is the jumping point of NCAA players who didn't get recruited by top clubs or players who still want to play the game but already reached their ceilings. 2nd tier compared to Italy and Turkey but definitely better than NCAA. Yes, I should clarify. Germany is generally still above the NCAA-level, I meant other weakest leagues elsewhere.
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Post by ironhammer on Apr 1, 2019 18:39:53 GMT -5
One should be careful about making broad statements about one's presumption about the level of pro volleyball just by looking at some random clips. That would be like someone dissing pro-level basketball just by looking at clips from games in the pro league in Liberia or Uganda and completely ignoring the NBA. <snip> The less competitive/lower level pro leagues however (i.e. Germany, Sweden, Philippines) might be more comparable to college volleyball, the weakest ones may be even less competitive than D1. Agreed. That's why I asked the question about how the various leagues compare while admitting my ignorance of such things. Yes, what I saw I would characterize as less than the lower D1 level ball. I stand by my statement that half the 18Open field at the JNats was better than what I saw. Like somebody who's never seen D1 volleyball has a certain expectation of what that would look like. . . and then they see South Carolina State play Quinnipiac when they were expecting Stanford vs. WI. Yup. I recommend you start watching Turkey and Italian league games, or alternatively, Brazil, China and Japan leagues. Most top Olympic NT players plays (or have played) in one of those leagues, including the US. So when you watch the Olympics (or the World Championships and World Cup), you will know why they got selected and which league they came from.
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Post by Reach on Apr 1, 2019 19:56:20 GMT -5
anyway.. about that 19/20 season.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 18:41:03 GMT -5
Word on the street, Cuttino is with Pomi for multiple seasons
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Post by ericleo on Apr 3, 2019 12:51:40 GMT -5
SSS announced on her IG that she had signed her first pro contract. But no idea on which club she is going.
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Post by ericleo on Apr 3, 2019 12:56:56 GMT -5
SSS announced on her IG that she had signed her first pro contract. But no idea on which club she is going. According to the comments, it seems to be in Europe. Hope it's Italy, a middle or lower level club is great for her. Just like Poulter is with Chieri.
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Post by Hawk Attack on Apr 3, 2019 13:04:05 GMT -5
SSS announced on her IG that she had signed her first pro contract. But no idea on which club she is going. According to the comments, it seems to be in Europe. Hope it's Italy, a middle or lower level club is great for her. Just like Poulter is with Chieri. She’ll be fine as long as she just sets her middles.
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Post by SportyBucky on Apr 3, 2019 13:56:17 GMT -5
Man I hope Carlini doesn’t go to Polish League. It is not as competitive as Turkey or Italy. Lol @ Lloyd replacing Carlini. Me too. I think Carlini should go to a mid level Italian club. She could develop her skills there. Top clubs like Novara this season and Scandicci last season aren't good for her. She could probably go to a top club when she is more mature skill-wise. Yeah. She did horribly.
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Post by yupyupyup on Apr 3, 2019 14:40:24 GMT -5
Man I hope Carlini doesn’t go to Polish League. It is not as competitive as Turkey or Italy. Lol @ Lloyd replacing Carlini. Me too. I think Carlini should go to a mid level Italian club. She could develop her skills there. Top clubs like Novara this season and Scandicci last season aren't good for her. She could probably go to a top club when she is more mature skill-wise. Why? She led Scandicci to one of their better seasons and Novara is top 4 in CL.
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Post by samusama on Apr 3, 2019 16:43:06 GMT -5
Kalei Mau of Arizona and Alohi Robins Hardy of BYU have been included on the Philippine national team. PH is trying to earn its first medal in the last 15 yrs or so at the South East Asian games and many believe that this squad would just be that team. They are up against a formidable Thai team (obviously the favorite) and a really good Viet and Indonesian team. I expect Mau would be a starting OH with her height and power advantage. Alohi could really fight for the starting setter spot because she towers over the other setters.
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Post by ericleo on Apr 3, 2019 21:56:53 GMT -5
Me too. I think Carlini should go to a mid level Italian club. She could develop her skills there. Top clubs like Novara this season and Scandicci last season aren't good for her. She could probably go to a top club when she is more mature skill-wise. Why? She led Scandicci to one of their better seasons and Novara is top 4 in CL. I think that's just less pressure for her, and way fewer annoying comments on a setter who has less than two years of pro volleyball experience.
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Post by superjago on Apr 5, 2019 4:29:02 GMT -5
Hello I've been following your fine forum for quite some time, looking for information about American players who come to play in Europe and now I decided to create an account to post information about how they perform in Europe (well, in Polish league in particular) in case anyone is interested. It took a lot of time to get accepted but here I am , English is not my native language but I hope I can make myself understood Regarding Carlini going to Chemik, I don't think it is a legit information . Chemik, although the richest club in Poland, gets less and less money every year from their sponsor Grupa Azoty, so I don't think they could afford to pay Carlini's substantial wages. Plus even if somehow Chemik would have a bigger budget next year , it would be wise if they spent that money signing an opposite or a decent outside hitter because that are their main problems , the current setter Sladana Mirkovic is relatively good. The same source revealed also that another American players might be heading to Poland : McKenzie Adams (from Palmberg to Łks Łódz) Alexandra Frantti (from Mulhouse to Grot Budowlani Łódź) Ebony Nwanebu (from Büyükçekmece to Legionovia Legionowo ) Really hard to tell if those are true. As for the transfers from Polish league, Chiaka Ogboku isn't the only American hot commodity; Brittany Abercrombie, who signed with Radomka Radom in December, has had a pretty impressive season, and she might be leaving as well.
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