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Post by deohge on Jul 31, 2019 10:48:13 GMT -5
like sending your kid and your money to a rapist bad parenting? or another kind of bad parenting? No, the bad parenting of not teaching your child right or wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 10:52:08 GMT -5
like sending your kid and your money to a rapist bad parenting? or another kind of bad parenting? No, the bad parenting of not teaching your child right or wrong. so it is right to teach your kid to support a banned coach who raped 16yr old players? got it. thanks for clarifying your position!
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Post by deohge on Jul 31, 2019 10:53:48 GMT -5
No, the bad parenting of not teaching your child right or wrong. so it is right to teach your kid to support a banned coach who raped 16yr old players? got it. thanks for clarifying your position! No problem, glad I could help.
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Post by why on Aug 3, 2019 16:08:08 GMT -5
I too thought it was a nice update, any conversation that helps keep others informed about how the law works around major sex crimes involving children while simultaneously reminding everyone that rick butler raped children, lied about it, and tried to destroy anyone's life who spoke out against it is A-OK in my book. Thanks for sharing in the sentiment. Problem is none of that happened. I heard they were consensual relationships. If anything I think those girls made poor decisions, or poor parenting. I think it's comments like the one above that have caused so many people to finally no longer do business with SPRI.
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Post by trainermch on Aug 3, 2019 20:58:44 GMT -5
like sending your kid and your money to a rapist bad parenting? or another kind of bad parenting? No, the bad parenting of not teaching your child right or wrong. I think you must think just like Rob, the adult male camp counselor who, when I was 14 and hugging him goodbye at the end of camp, with my mom waiting 20 feet away at the car, and 100's of campers and parents swarming all around, turned his head quickly before I knew what was happening and shoved his nasty tongue in my mouth, my first such "kiss." I rode home in silence the entire 3 hours. (very odd for me) I only told my mom when she later told me she had invited Rob to our B&B (because in my letter I wrote that my favorite counselor was Rob). He was bringing his sorry, nasty a$$ to be a guest in my parent's B&B and getting my mom to give him more access to me. Thank God I told her, because then she called him and let him have it over the phone. Anyway, I did nothing to invite his predatory advances, and I have no doubt whatsoever that I was not his first little teen and certainly not his last. I was a strong, assertive kid with amazing parents who raised 4 girls quite well. There will always be Robs and D(R)icks.
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Post by vbfanantic on Aug 3, 2019 21:31:25 GMT -5
I too thought it was a nice update, any conversation that helps keep others informed about how the law works around major sex crimes involving children while simultaneously reminding everyone that rick butler raped children, lied about it, and tried to destroy anyone's life who spoke out against it is A-OK in my book. Thanks for sharing in the sentiment. Problem is none of that happened. I heard they were consensual relationships. If anything I think those girls made poor decisions, or poor parenting. Have you read this? "I said 'I don't believe in premarital sex,'" she says. "Then I started shouting 'No! No!' but he kept saying 'Trust me.' I tried pushing him away but I couldn't stop him. Somehow he got my jeans off and had intercourse with me."
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Post by bayarea on Aug 4, 2019 0:12:41 GMT -5
A quick look will show you that deohge was an account established at the end of January, 2019, apparently with the express intent of defending the Butlers and throwing shade on those who were abused by RB. I suggest that many of you may lower your blood pressure by blocking 'his' posts.
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Post by volleyusa on Aug 4, 2019 7:34:11 GMT -5
I can’t wait for the day that the people with jealousy of SPVB will stop trying to attack the Butlers over accusations that might not even be true. Move on.
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Post by deohge on Aug 4, 2019 10:20:13 GMT -5
A quick look will show you that deohge was an account established at the end of January, 2019, apparently with the express intent of defending the Butlers and throwing shade on those who were abused by RB. I suggest that many of you may lower your blood pressure by blocking 'his' posts. đź‘Ť Great job detective.
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Post by deohge on Aug 4, 2019 10:21:12 GMT -5
Problem is none of that happened. I heard they were consensual relationships. If anything I think those girls made poor decisions, or poor parenting. Have you read this? "I said 'I don't believe in premarital sex,'" she says. "Then I started shouting 'No! No!' but he kept saying 'Trust me.' I tried pushing him away but I couldn't stop him. Somehow he got my jeans off and had intercourse with me." I have.
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Post by deohge on Aug 4, 2019 10:25:32 GMT -5
Problem is none of that happened. I heard they were consensual relationships. If anything I think those girls made poor decisions, or poor parenting. I think it's comments like the one above that have caused so many people to finally no longer do business with SPRI.  And so many still do business with SPVB. They get more and more players every year that switch clubs to come play at SPVB.
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Post by volleyusa on Aug 4, 2019 10:34:01 GMT -5
I think it's comments like the one above that have caused so many people to finally no longer do business with SPRI.  And so many still do business with SPVB. They get more and more players every year that switch clubs to come play at SPVB. Good. SPVB is a GREAT club that should continue to gain players each year. The biggest problem on this board, is everyone is so jealous of SPVB that they are trying to make the Butler thing true, even if it is not, just so they can feel good about themselves. SPVB is 3 steps above any other club up there.
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Post by bayarea on Aug 4, 2019 10:47:48 GMT -5
And so many still do business with SPVB. They get more and more players every year that switch clubs to come play at SPVB. Good. SPVB is a GREAT club that should continue to gain players each year. The biggest problem on this board, is everyone is so jealous of SPVB that they are trying to make the Butler thing true, even if it is not, just so they can feel good about themselves. SPVB is 3 steps above any other club up there. The volleyball part is irrelevant if it's your daughter who gets raped, though. (If it's someone else's daughter, no problem, huh.) You think all these posters on here are from Chicago and jealous of SPRI. Sad.
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Post by azvb on Aug 4, 2019 11:05:20 GMT -5
And so many still do business with SPVB. They get more and more players every year that switch clubs to come play at SPVB. Good. SPVB is a GREAT club that should continue to gain players each year. The biggest problem on this board, is everyone is so jealous of SPVB that they are trying to make the Butler thing true, even if it is not, just so they can feel good about themselves. SPVB is 3 steps above any other club up there. Who cares if they’re a great club? No one on here wants to bring the club down. They want to bring their rapist director down. SPRI can continue as usual when he and his enabler wife are 1. no longer allowed to associate with young girls, 2. in prison 3. Become hermits on their ranch in wherever 4. Any or all of the listed. THIS ISN’T ABOUT THE GREAT COACH HE IS, NUMBER OF GREAT PLAYERS HE HAS PRODUCED, HOW SUCCESSFUL HIS CLUB IS.
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Post by deohge on Aug 4, 2019 12:03:33 GMT -5
Good. SPVB is a GREAT club that should continue to gain players each year. The biggest problem on this board, is everyone is so jealous of SPVB that they are trying to make the Butler thing true, even if it is not, just so they can feel good about themselves. SPVB is 3 steps above any other club up there. Who cares if they’re a great club? No one on here wants to bring the club down. They want to bring their rapist director down. SPRI can continue as usual when he and his enabler wife are 1. no longer allowed to associate with young girls, 2. in prison 3. Become hermits on their ranch in wherever 4. Any or all of the listed. THIS ISN’T ABOUT THE GREAT COACH HE IS, NUMBER OF GREAT PLAYERS HE HAS PRODUCED, HOW SUCCESSFUL HIS CLUB IS. And nothing on these thread is going to change anything, everybody can accuse all they want. The Butlers are going nowhere any time soon.
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