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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2019 21:20:02 GMT -5
Honestly, a likely and much simpler explanation is that in their initial discovery the defendants simply asked Mullen whether she had a VT account and, if so, what her username is. Do you know if Cheryl or Rick were asked if they have VT accounts? I haven't. I've read almost every docket filed, and do not recall that being a direct question listed. Here is some comments about that from docket#150 pg3. B. Outstanding document subpoenas to third parties. On May 3, 2019, Plaintiff issued a subpoena to four (4) third-party entities requesting documents and information needed to complete oral discovery: USA Volleyball (“USAV”), Amateur Athletic Union (“AAU”), Junior Volleyball Association (“JVA”), and an online discussion forum about volleyball called VolleyTalk. Plaintiff’s counsel has met and conferred with counsel from USAV and JVA regarding their responses, and will be receiving rolling production over the course of the next month. Plaintiff anticipates USAV will complete their production by late-June 2019, but is still awaiting confirmation from JVA’s counsel regarding their timeline. AAU’s subpoena response is due on May 31, 2019. Plaintiff received production from VolleyTalk late last week. Plaintiff had also previously subpoenaed and received production from third party Theodore Polygraph Services, Inc. regarding lie detector tests taken by Rick and Cheryl Butler
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2019 21:42:42 GMT -5
Do you know if Cheryl or Rick were asked if they have VT accounts? I haven't. I've read almost every docket filed, and do not recall that being a direct question listed. Here is some comments about that from docket#150 pg3. B. Outstanding document subpoenas to third parties. On May 3, 2019, Plaintiff issued a subpoena to four (4) third-party entities requesting documents and information needed to complete oral discovery: USA Volleyball (“USAV”), Amateur Athletic Union (“AAU”), Junior Volleyball Association (“JVA”), and an online discussion forum about volleyball called VolleyTalk. Plaintiff’s counsel has met and conferred with counsel from USAV and JVA regarding their responses, and will be receiving rolling production over the course of the next month. Plaintiff anticipates USAV will complete their production by late-June 2019, but is still awaiting confirmation from JVA’s counsel regarding their timeline. AAU’s subpoena response is due on May 31, 2019. Plaintiff received production from VolleyTalk late last week. Plaintiff had also previously subpoenaed and received production from third party Theodore Polygraph Services, Inc. regarding lie detector tests taken by Rick and Cheryl Butler Now, THIS I found Quite interesting. It's been postulated here that Plaintiff's VT (real) ID might have been disclosed; now, the (potential) screen names of RB/CB may have been revealed, via said discovery, to the Plaintiff. That'd be rather ironic, no? As far as any personal opinions: this will be tried in court, not here on VT!
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Post by deohge on Jun 4, 2019 7:41:17 GMT -5
Some of the members on this site seem like they should belong to the flat Earth society! When Laura Mullen filed her lawsuit last year she said she only found out about the allegations against Butler in June of 2017. After reading this last motion, she clearly knew about them in 2015 and her oldest daughter knew about them as well since she was e-mailing Butler expressing her support for him and Cheryl. Then when Butler advised mullen's daughter to not return to Sports Performance, she went back anyway. In August and September of 2017 after Mullen said she had learned about the allegations against Rick in June, she signed her youngest daughter up for a lesson and a clinic at the Great Lakes Center, owned by the Butler's! On top of that the lawsuit last year accused Butler of sexually abusing his players for the past 30 years, but in the most recent motion, it says Mullen admits that she knows of no allegations over the last 30 years. I don't have any idea what happened in the 1980's, but it's clear Laura Mullen doesn't have a clue either and she can't even seem to get it straight when she first found out about the allegations. Yes, very intriguing isn't it?
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Post by moderndaycoach on Jun 4, 2019 8:44:02 GMT -5
Some of the members on this site seem like they should belong to the flat Earth society! When Laura Mullen filed her lawsuit last year she said she only found out about the allegations against Butler in June of 2017. After reading this last motion, she clearly knew about them in 2015 and her oldest daughter knew about them as well since she was e-mailing Butler expressing her support for him and Cheryl. Then when Butler advised mullen's daughter to not return to Sports Performance, she went back anyway. In August and September of 2017 after Mullen said she had learned about the allegations against Rick in June, she signed her youngest daughter up for a lesson and a clinic at the Great Lakes Center, owned by the Butler's! On top of that the lawsuit last year accused Butler of sexually abusing his players for the past 30 years, but in the most recent motion, it says Mullen admits that she knows of no allegations over the last 30 years. I don't have any idea what happened in the 1980's, but it's clear Laura Mullen doesn't have a clue either and she can't even seem to get it straight when she first found out about the allegations. Yes, very intriguing isn't it? No not at all, the butlers have dragged this out this long because they have maliciously lied and tried to destroyed anyone that spoke out against them, it has now come to light that mullen clearly lied as well about the extent of her knowledge of the situation. I would love to see all the screen names that rick and cheryl have posted under, as well as the spvb accounts that come on to harass anyone speaking against the butler's and try to change the rhetoric of the story likely in defense or at the direction of those two monsters.
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Post by deohge on Jun 4, 2019 10:12:15 GMT -5
Yes, very intriguing isn't it? No not at all, the butlers have dragged this out this long because they have maliciously lied and tried to destroyed anyone that spoke out against them, it has now come to light that mullen clearly lied as well about the extent of her knowledge of the situation. I would love to see all the screen names that rick and cheryl have posted under, as well as the spvb accounts that come on to harass anyone speaking against the butler's and try to change the rhetoric of the story likely in defense or at the direction of those two monsters. All accounts should use real names, that way all the keyboard warriors would be exposed. People are not as bold when they might be held accountable. All the false statements and information from both sides could just stop.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Jun 4, 2019 12:57:21 GMT -5
No not at all, the butlers have dragged this out this long because they have maliciously lied and tried to destroyed anyone that spoke out against them, it has now come to light that mullen clearly lied as well about the extent of her knowledge of the situation. I would love to see all the screen names that rick and cheryl have posted under, as well as the spvb accounts that come on to harass anyone speaking against the butler's and try to change the rhetoric of the story likely in defense or at the direction of those two monsters. All accounts should use real names, that way all the keyboard warriors would be exposed. People are not as bold when they might be held accountable. All the false statements and information from both sides could just stop. Or we will see cheryl seek out those that speak against her with truths and aggressively harass and attack them like her and many of her employees did to Emily and others even before the story became this big. These are evil terrible people, they have no gripes with playing dirty and are compulsive liars, while there are false statements and information that have come up on this message board it is peanuts compared to the false information and lies they have spread for years to get to this point. Not saying it should be a pass for people to make things or lie but they have proven there is no playing fair in the battle they have created.
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Post by deohge on Jun 4, 2019 13:28:33 GMT -5
All accounts should use real names, that way all the keyboard warriors would be exposed. People are not as bold when they might be held accountable. All the false statements and information from both sides could just stop. Or we will see cheryl seek out those that speak against her with truths and aggressively harass and attack them like her and many of her employees did to Emily and others even before the story became this big. These are evil terrible people, they have no gripes with playing dirty and are compulsive liars, while there are false statements and information that have come up on this message board it is peanuts compared to the false information and lies they have spread for years to get to this point. Not saying it should be a pass for people to make things or lie but they have proven there is no playing fair in the battle they have created. So the whole lawsuit is just about do what ever it takes to bring down the Butlers, lie and make up stuff. This is a perfect example of why this country is so screwed up. This is a waste of the courts time.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Jun 4, 2019 13:39:45 GMT -5
Or we will see cheryl seek out those that speak against her with truths and aggressively harass and attack them like her and many of her employees did to Emily and others even before the story became this big. These are evil terrible people, they have no gripes with playing dirty and are compulsive liars, while there are false statements and information that have come up on this message board it is peanuts compared to the false information and lies they have spread for years to get to this point. Not saying it should be a pass for people to make things or lie but they have proven there is no playing fair in the battle they have created. So the whole lawsuit is just about do what ever it takes to bring down the Butlers, lie and make up stuff. This is a perfect example of why this country is so screwed up. This is a waste of the courts time. This is far from a waste of time, I would think that is considerably insulting to the victims of this monster and goes along with the rhetoric the butlers have pushed and leaned on for decades. It has been regularly noted that everyone involved in this thing over the entire period of time has mis-remembered, embellished, flat out lied/denied, left details out, etc. all while there being some truth in almost every statement and complaint on both sides. The only people that think this is a waste of time is the child rapist and his demonstrative wife along with all those that they brainwashed into believing their innocence.
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Post by updawg on Jun 4, 2019 13:40:08 GMT -5
I'm not too savvy on these kinds of things, but does anyone know the proper way to handle it when you get a private message like the one that was sent below that I received?
you are f*ckin' nuts...!
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#1) If you attempt to answer this, I will immediately delete the entire thread; I want no dialogue with you, just want to humiliate you to your "face"; #2) for a dude who purports to be 'as pure as Ivory Snow' in (All 38 Of!) your posts, you are nothing but a SPRIbot to me. The hypocrisy shown in your most recent post directed towards me - nay, the inbred stupidity - shows your true stripes. My comment re: Trump was ironic and sardonic; I guess sarcasm escapes you (I hear inbreeding has deleterious consequences for those so afflicted)!; #3) Your sole, obsessive fixation on VT has been to obfuscate RB-themed threads. You are volleyball slime to me; the disingenuousness of your positions, platforms, plus 'arguments' are those of a repetitive moron with an agenda. You AIN'T NO parent. You are human pond scum, Ace. Trump, parenthetically, will be impeached: more and more in his own party are considering banishing him. Think whatever; your side will fully lose, also!
THAT understandable enough for you, idiot? My God, you think that The Donald will escape justice....Just as your hero, Rick, fortuitously has? I Don't chat w/ losers!PS: ONLY a UDub fanatic - those who affix 'dawg' to their screen names - could be so dislocated in their "thinking". You seem to think your side is winning. NO WAY.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Jun 4, 2019 13:46:04 GMT -5
I'm not too savvy on these kinds of things, but does anyone know the proper way to handle it when you get a private message like the one that was sent below that I received? you are f*ckin' nuts...! Participants: dirtrider5, updawg dirtrider5 All-American *****dirtrider5 AvatarPosts: 2,267MaleJun 1, 2019 at 1:24am Quote Message Options #1) If you attempt to answer this, I will immediately delete the entire thread; I want no dialogue with you, just want to humiliate you to your "face"; #2) for a dude who purports to be 'as pure as Ivory Snow' in (All 38 Of!) your posts, you are nothing but a SPRIbot to me. The hypocrisy shown in your most recent post directed towards me - nay, the inbred stupidity - shows your true stripes. My comment re: Trump was ironic and sardonic; I guess sarcasm escapes you (I hear inbreeding has deleterious consequences for those so afflicted)!; #3) Your sole, obsessive fixation on VT has been to obfuscate RB-themed threads. You are volleyball slime to me; the disingenuousness of your positions, platforms, plus 'arguments' are those of a repetitive moron with an agenda. You AIN'T NO parent. You are human pond scum, Ace. Trump, parenthetically, will be impeached: more and more in his own party are considering banishing him. Think whatever; your side will fully lose, also!THAT understandable enough for you, idiot? My God, you think that The Donald will escape justice....Just as your hero, Rick, fortuitously has? I Don't chat w/ losers!PS: ONLY a UDub fanatic - those who affix 'dawg' to their screen names - could be so dislocated in their "thinking". You seem to think your side is winning. NO WAY.
Report and PM to an admin, you are not the only one to receive messages like this from him.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 8:26:47 GMT -5
For those wondering docket #153 on courtlister.com is pretty much verbatim #144. Minute entries 151 & 152 are below.
#151 NOTIFICATION OF DOCKET ENTRY
This docket entry was made by the Clerk on Tuesday, June 4, 2019:
MINUTE entry before the Honorable Matthew F. Kennelly: Status hearing and motion hearing held on 6/4/2019. Response to motions for sanctions [141] and [143] due by 6/25/2019; replies by 7/3/2019. Motion for summary judgment [144] and motion to stay [148] are continued to 6/6/2019 at 9:30 a.m. Mailed notice. (pjg, )
#152 NOTIFICATION OF DOCKET ENTRY
This docket entry was made by the Clerk on Thursday, June 6, 2019:
MINUTE entry before the Honorable Matthew F. Kennelly:Status hearing and motion hearing held on 6/6/2019. Motion for leave to file excess pages [146] is granted. Plaintiff's Rule 56(d) submission is due by 6/20/2019. Status hearing is set for 6/25/2019 at 9:30 a.m. Mailed notice. (pjg, )
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Post by why on Jun 16, 2019 14:45:09 GMT -5
Am I the only one who is wondering why the JVA and AAU who know that Rick is still coaching allow SPRI to register teams. I would hope that all organization that know clubs are allowing banned coaches to still coach just disallow the clubs from participating in any events. Maybe I am the only one that feels that way but allowing banned coaches to coach team registered with your organization just seems wrong to me.
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Post by volleyusa on Jun 16, 2019 15:21:29 GMT -5
I personally think the whole thing is old news and overblown. The people who seem to do all of this complaining sound like they are jealous of everything Sports Performance has accomplished and will continue to accomplish. Let it go.
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Post by cabinfever on Jun 16, 2019 17:19:42 GMT -5
I am complaining and I am not jealous of old Ricky and SPRI. Heck, I don’t even live in his fine state. I just want justice for the victims—the young women on whose backs he built his volleyball empire. I hope the lawsuit and lawyers’ fees bankrupt old Ricky. What a loser.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2019 20:08:38 GMT -5
I am complaining and I am not jealous of old Ricky and SPRI. Heck, I don’t even live in his fine state. I just want justice for the victims—the young women on whose backs he built his volleyball empire. I hope the lawsuit and lawyers’ fees bankrupt old Ricky. What a loser. +1 (In Spades!)^
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