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Post by Hawk Attack on May 1, 2019 23:23:43 GMT -5
Women stay getting judged on their facial expressions, whether they get along with their teammates, cursing, their audacity to hold people accountable for their lack of performance and countless other crap. Men can get away with this and much more, but don't get called a bitch. Why does Larson on anyone else have to abide by some BS rules of how society thinks she should conduct herself on the court? As long it is not doing harm to her team or her self, we should careless and respect how she plays. "Oh he is fiery and gets his teammates pumped" translates into "oh what a b#@$, she looks pissed." Larson competes at the highest levels of volleyball and she is allowed to have her game face and not be judged for cursing when she misses a serve. Furthermore, I could give two craps about how you look on the court because everyone has different behaviors for how they compete. Then you need to take up your issue with Team USA, not “society”. Because it’s not society that’s dictating how Larson or Hooker or Tom should conduct themselves on the court, it’s Team USA. You and pretty much 90% of Team USA supporters (and probably 100% of Hooker fans) understand everyone has different behaviors for how they compete... Team USA code of culture does not agree. And that’s where fans of the team feel slighted.
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Post by saywhatnow on May 1, 2019 23:24:57 GMT -5
Women stay getting judged on their facial expressions, whether they get along with their teammates, cursing, their audacity to hold people accountable for their lack of performance and countless other crap. Men can get away with this and much more, but don't get called a bitch. Why does Larson on anyone else have to abide by some BS rules of how society thinks she should conduct herself on the court? As long it is not doing harm to her team or her self, we should careless and respect how she plays. "Oh he is fiery and gets his teammates pumped" translates into "oh what a b#@$, she looks pissed." Larson competes at the highest levels of volleyball and she is allowed to have her game face and not be judged for cursing when she misses a serve. Furthermore, I could give two craps about how you look on the court because everyone has different behaviors for how they compete. Are you saying that females and males generally handle issues with teammates the same way? No one person, male or female, handles issues with their teammates the same way. There are too many variables at play. If a woman shows her emotions or is demonstrative, it is mostly judged in a negative way. If a man exhibits the same behavior, it is fiery, leadership material, and just generally positive.
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Post by saywhatnow on May 1, 2019 23:31:45 GMT -5
Women stay getting judged on their facial expressions, whether they get along with their teammates, cursing, their audacity to hold people accountable for their lack of performance and countless other crap. Men can get away with this and much more, but don't get called a bitch. Why does Larson on anyone else have to abide by some BS rules of how society thinks she should conduct herself on the court? As long it is not doing harm to her team or her self, we should careless and respect how she plays. "Oh he is fiery and gets his teammates pumped" translates into "oh what a b#@$, she looks pissed." Larson competes at the highest levels of volleyball and she is allowed to have her game face and not be judged for cursing when she misses a serve. Furthermore, I could give two craps about how you look on the court because everyone has different behaviors for how they compete. Then you need to take up your issue with Team USA, not “society”. Because it’s not society that’s dictating how Larson or Hooker or Tom should conduct themselves on the court, it’s Team USA. You and pretty much 90% of Team USA supporters (and probably 100% of Hooker fans) understand everyone has different behaviors for how they compete... Team USA code of culture does not agree. And that’s where fans of the team feel slighted. Yes you are right. But put Larson in an office setting and this type of culture runs rampant and leads to a more societal issue.
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Post by alohavball on May 1, 2019 23:37:09 GMT -5
China's preliminary VNL roster. OH: Zhu Ting, Zhang Changning, Liu Xiaotong, Li Yingying, Liu Yanhan, Duan Fang, Wu Han, Zhang Yichan, Jin Ye, Che Wenhan, Wang Yizhu OP: Gong Xiangyu, Zeng Chunlei, Du Qingqing MB: Yan Ni, Yuan Xinyue, Hu Mingyuan, Yang Hanyu, Wang Yuanyuan, Zheng Yixin Gao Yi S: Ding Xia, Yao Di, Diao Linyu, Sun Haiping, Sun Yan L: Wang Mengjie, Lin Li, Ni Feifan, Wang Weiyi What happened to their lefty backup OPP from Rio? Retired early, her knee injury was too severe to fully recover and took a toll on her body. Last VNL was her final competition with the NT.
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Post by saywhatnow on May 1, 2019 23:39:11 GMT -5
Karch would rather commit seppuku then admit that he misplayed his handling of Hooker (the obvious negative effect it has had on his legacy) when he publically embarrassed her in front of her teammates by calling her out for having her husband and new born child come into the gym after practises that summer of 2013. Those in the know know that this was a deliberate play by him as he judged Hooker correctly in understanding that she would respond as she did by angrily walking out of the gym and then making the most unfortunate decision of her life by tweeting "this is no longer my team" which Karch took at face value. If she had not posted that he would have been forced to let her back in the gym but make no mistake his plan all along was to break her to his will or force her off the team. He just didn't have the self reflection required to realize that coaching genius, his self persception, does not lead to gold medals. The high point of his dual quad leadership was in 2014 and it's been all down hill since then with seemingly no end in sight and with the possible carryover of continued decline for another quad on someone else's watch. Thanks Karch I have huge issue with a coach deliberately triggering a player to force her off the team. I'm sure it happens all the time, but for the leader of the women's team to result to this type of behavior to break her is trash.
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Post by stanfordvb on May 1, 2019 23:44:01 GMT -5
Women stay getting judged on their facial expressions, whether they get along with their teammates, cursing, their audacity to hold people accountable for their lack of performance and countless other crap. Men can get away with this and much more, but don't get called a bitch. Why does Larson on anyone else have to abide by some BS rules of how society thinks she should conduct herself on the court? As long it is not doing harm to her team or her self, we should careless and respect how she plays. "Oh he is fiery and gets his teammates pumped" translates into "oh what a b#@$, she looks pissed." Larson competes at the highest levels of volleyball and she is allowed to have her game face and not be judged for cursing when she misses a serve. Furthermore, I could give two craps about how you look on the court because everyone has different behaviors for how they compete. Men get called d - bags or a holes, bitch doesn’t really work for insulting men
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Post by ironhammer on May 1, 2019 23:45:10 GMT -5
Larson did scream at her opponent after blocking her when she played with Dinamo Kazan. I love Larson and am very proud of her, but she ain’t no angel on the court.Well I don't think anyone expect players to be angels on court. As for screaming at opponents, that is strictly speaking frowned upon in volleyball of course, players generally turn away from the opponents to scream and jump for joy rather than doing it directly at their opponents. But sometimes one can't help it, accidentally or intentionally, maybe to psyche out their opponents. Although to be honest, that seldom works at the pro level, since players who make it to that level are generally mentally resilient and tough and won't get rattled easily, even if someone is screaming in their face. Personally, I don't have an issue with players showing a little emotion on court, that indicates they are passionate and have fire in them to excel. Swearing on occasion is fine, we are all humans. That should not be confused with being a b*tch that cannot get along with her teammates. Not the same issue.
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Post by vup on May 1, 2019 23:49:55 GMT -5
I don’t know. I have mixed feelings about Larson’s on court personality. She’s very intense. Doesn’t smile very often.
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Post by vup on May 1, 2019 23:53:41 GMT -5
Hunter snubbed. Why hasn’t Lloyd been cut after WCH?
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Post by ironhammer on May 1, 2019 23:54:48 GMT -5
I don’t know. I have mixed feelings about Larson’s on court personality. She’s very intense. Doesn’t smile very often. Fair enough, some may not like that. Still, being intense on court is not quite the same issue as team chemistry. Hooker has the latter problem.
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Post by vup on May 1, 2019 23:57:12 GMT -5
I don’t know. I have mixed feelings about Larson’s on court personality. She’s very intense. Doesn’t smile very often. Fair enough, some may not like that. Still, being intense on court and is not quite the same issue as team chemistry. Hooker has the latter problem. I’m not sure I agree here.
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Post by ironhammer on May 1, 2019 23:58:19 GMT -5
Fair enough, some may not like that. Still, being intense on court and is not quite the same issue as team chemistry. Hooker has the latter problem. I’m not sure I agree here. No need to, world would be a boring place if everyone agrees, wouldn't it?
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Post by vup on May 2, 2019 0:06:53 GMT -5
I’m not sure I agree here. No need to, world would be a boring place if everyone agrees, wouldn't it? Honestly wouldn’t mind if Washington were a lot more boring right now.
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Post by ironhammer on May 2, 2019 0:09:53 GMT -5
No need to, world would be a boring place if everyone agrees, wouldn't it? Honestly wouldn’t mind if Washington were a lot less boring right now.That I agree with. As for Larson, she has drive, her on court intensity may be divisive to some, but I guess she needed that to succeed. And from her interview where she revealed a bit about her family, you can understand what motivated her and what she had to overcome to succeed: Not saying that necessarily justify her court performance if you have a problem with that, but at least it makes you understand where she is coming from.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 0:12:41 GMT -5
I don’t know. I have mixed feelings about Larson’s on court personality. She’s very intense. Doesn’t smile very often. There was also this reaction at 10-7 in the second set of the Rio semifinal against Serbia after Murphy didn't run her route twice and missed a tip: Someone's going to have to let me know if there's a similar clip out there of Tom... I'll wait.
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