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Post by donut on May 2, 2019 7:34:52 GMT -5
I don’t know. I have mixed feelings about Larson’s on court personality. She’s very intense. Doesn’t smile very often. Oh no Vup bb, please don't tell me you just said Larson should smile more... Larson is by far the most intense American player. I still haven't watched the match, but I saw an Instagram clip of her staring down Karakurt (now THAT is a player who is going to make some headlines for intensity in the future) in the last Eczacibasi-Vakifbank game. I'd strongly disagree that she plays with more negative emotion than positive emotion, but we should also remember that she really blossomed into the player she is now in Kazan, Russia alongside Gamova... not necessarily the warmest place or environment. However, there are countless world-class players who play with more anger/intensity than Larson: almost the entire Brazillian team, Gonch, Gamova, Maja Objenovic, much of the Italian team... I personally think her intensity is a good thing. Sometimes our Karch-ettes look a bit robotic out there. Hell, say what you want about her performance in this match, but she looked like the only player who really wanted it in the semis against Serbia. P.S. someone mentioned Larson got a yellow card once. When was that?
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Post by ironhammer on May 2, 2019 7:42:13 GMT -5
Making up imaginary rules too are we? It’s not imaginary. You obvi didn’t read the fine print when you signed up for an account. Don’t make me add you to the burn book. I beg to differ. As for adding books, no one stops me from posting here.
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Post by donut on May 2, 2019 7:44:52 GMT -5
I don’t know. I have mixed feelings about Larson’s on court personality. She’s very intense. Doesn’t smile very often. There was also this reaction at 10-7 in the second set of the Rio semifinal against Serbia after Murphy didn't run her route twice and missed a tip: Someone's going to have to let me know if there's a similar clip out there of Tom... I'll wait. Her stints of anger were a bit more subdued lol... but she definitely showed outward frustration with her teammates at times. There's a clip out there somewhere that I can't seem to find anymore where Hooker literally jumped on top of Tom, and Tom was PISSED. Also just found this: "No, no, that hurt"
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Post by akbar on May 2, 2019 7:46:37 GMT -5
Women stay getting judged on their facial expressions, whether they get along with their teammates, cursing, their audacity to hold people accountable for their lack of performance and countless other crap. Men can get away with this and much more, but don't get called a bitch. Why does Larson on anyone else have to abide by some BS rules of how society thinks she should conduct herself on the court? As long it is not doing harm to her team or her self, we should careless and respect how she plays. "Oh he is fiery and gets his teammates pumped" translates into "oh what a b#@$, she looks pissed." Larson competes at the highest levels of volleyball and she is allowed to have her game face and not be judged for cursing when she misses a serve. Furthermore, I could give two craps about how you look on the court because everyone has different behaviors for how they compete. bitch doesn’t really work for insulting men I respectfully disagree. 😉
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Post by stanfordvb on May 2, 2019 8:18:18 GMT -5
Men get called d - bags or a holes, bitch doesn’t really work for insulting men I respectfully disagree. Explain !!
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Post by thethunderbird on May 2, 2019 9:44:51 GMT -5
I don’t know. I have mixed feelings about Larson’s on court personality. She’s very intense. Doesn’t smile very often. Oh no Vup bb, please don't tell me you just said Larson should smile more... Larson is by far the most intense American player. I still haven't watched the match, but I saw an Instagram clip of her staring down Karakurt (now THAT is a player who is going to make some headlines for intensity in the future) in the last Eczacibasi-Vakifbank game. I'd strongly disagree that she plays with more negative emotion than positive emotion, but we should also remember that she really blossomed into the player she is now in Kazan, Russia alongside Gamova... not necessarily the warmest place or environment. However, there are countless world-class players who play with more anger/intensity than Larson: almost the entire Brazillian team, Gonch, Gamova, Maja Objenovic, much of the Italian team... I personally think her intensity is a good thing. Sometimes our Karch-ettes look a bit robotic out there. Hell, say what you want about her performance in this match, but she looked like the only player who really wanted it in the semis against Serbia. P.S. someone mentioned Larson got a yellow card once. When was that? Good rule of thumb: never, ever tell women to smile more. Nobody would dare say the same thing to a male player.. I've never seen a sports article criticizing Lebron James or Tom Brady (for example) for their intense facial expressions while playing their respective sports. Why should Larson be judged for her lack of smiling?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 9:48:13 GMT -5
I don`t think Larson is a B**** at all. In fact I think all Americans always show great attitude on the court. They are not over smiley like the Japanese (super annoying) but they don`t get angry like the Brazilians.
But I think it is ok to get angry also. They are not robots. So let them act and do whatever they want.
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Post by stanfordvb on May 2, 2019 9:50:31 GMT -5
Oh no Vup bb, please don't tell me you just said Larson should smile more... Larson is by far the most intense American player. I still haven't watched the match, but I saw an Instagram clip of her staring down Karakurt (now THAT is a player who is going to make some headlines for intensity in the future) in the last Eczacibasi-Vakifbank game. I'd strongly disagree that she plays with more negative emotion than positive emotion, but we should also remember that she really blossomed into the player she is now in Kazan, Russia alongside Gamova... not necessarily the warmest place or environment. However, there are countless world-class players who play with more anger/intensity than Larson: almost the entire Brazillian team, Gonch, Gamova, Maja Objenovic, much of the Italian team... I personally think her intensity is a good thing. Sometimes our Karch-ettes look a bit robotic out there. Hell, say what you want about her performance in this match, but she looked like the only player who really wanted it in the semis against Serbia. P.S. someone mentioned Larson got a yellow card once. When was that? Good rule of thumb: never, ever tell women to smile more. Nobody would dare say the same thing to a male player.. I've never seen a sports article criticizing Lebron James or Tom Brady (for example) for their intense facial expressions while playing their respective sports. Why should Larson be judged for her lack of smiling? i personally dont care whether she smiles, but I think people are prob referring to celebrations and excitement after they win points. Her and hentz are very “good job next point” type players they don’t really participate in the theatrics and laughing and smiling after points. It’s game face for the whole game and laser focus. Everyone’s different, I don’t like Larson yelling at that player after the stuff, but I never like trash talkers or stare downs through the net, I don’t care if she is not smiling or whtaver throughout the game, as long as she is being supportive and performing well it doesn’t matter to me.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 10:37:18 GMT -5
I don`t think Larson is a B**** at all. In fact I think all Americans always show great attitude on the court. They are not over smiley like the Japanese (super annoying) but they don`t get angry like the Brazilians. But I think it is ok to get angry also. They are not robots. So let them act and do whatever they want. I have no problem with anger. I have little problem with outbursts toward teammates or coaches, in the heat of battle. If it suggests something else bubbling beneath the surface and a possibly toxic team dynamic, that is a problem. I have always had a problem with showing an opponent up, in any sport for any gender.
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Post by chicagosports on May 2, 2019 10:57:41 GMT -5
Interesting how quick many are to defend Jordan (even providing family sob stories to further build up her character 🙄) Meanwhile Hooker is a free for all. 🤔
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Post by stanfordvb on May 2, 2019 11:17:07 GMT -5
Interesting how quick many are to defend Jordan (even providing family sob stories to further build up her character 🙄) Meanwhile Hooker is a free for all. 🤔 I defended Jordan but I also think Destinee is much better than wat Karch gave her. I. Sure she might have had some authority issues but none that would get her kicked off the team. She was pretty young in 2013.... 25-27? I wish so much Karch would bring her back.... on the other hand, does anyone know why deja McClendon never tried for the national team? She may not have made it but she was just as good if not better than Courtney in college. Same for Ariel Scott, what is she doing
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 2, 2019 11:24:01 GMT -5
Interesting how quick many are to defend Jordan (even providing family sob stories to further build up her character 🙄) Meanwhile Hooker is a free for all. 🤔 I defended Jordan but I also think Destinee is much better than wat Karch gave her. I. Sure she might have had some authority issues but none that would get her kicked off the team. She was pretty young in 2013.... 25-27? I wish so much Karch would bring her back.... on the other hand, does anyone know why deja McClendon never tried for the national team? She may not have made it but she was just as good if not better than Courtney in college. Same for Ariel Scott, what is she doing Courtney's game is much better suited to pro success - significantly better passer, defender, and blocker, and McClendon was more consistent offensively but the difference wasn't huge (and Courtney is not there for her offense)
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Post by saywhatnow on May 2, 2019 11:59:56 GMT -5
Yes you are right. But put Larson in an office setting and this type of culture runs rampant and leads to a more societal issue. 1) It's a bit of a stretch to claim any one person is going to lead to a "societal issue"... 2) There is a reason athletes don't play sports in an office. Brandi Chastain ripping her shirt off in 1999, would cause problems in an office. The Brazillians weeping after their Rio quarters loss would cause issues in an office. Athletes pouring Gatorade on a coach, would cause problems in an office. Most behaviors in sports culture wouldn't fly in an office. Your argument isn't really unique to Larson. 1) My wording was wrong. What I meant is that it is an example of societal issues. 2) You are taking a literal translation of sports and putting in an office setting. What I am saying is that women are judged harsher for their emotions, appearance (lack of smiling) and actions that men are applauded for. This judgement is similar on the court, field, etc. as it is in the office.
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Post by eotexas5 on May 2, 2019 12:57:57 GMT -5
There was also this reaction at 10-7 in the second set of the Rio semifinal against Serbia after Murphy didn't run her route twice and missed a tip: Someone's going to have to let me know if there's a similar clip out there of Tom... I'll wait. Her stints of anger were a bit more subdued lol... but she definitely showed outward frustration with her teammates at times. There's a clip out there somewhere that I can't seem to find anymore where Hooker literally jumped on top of Tom, and Tom was PISSED. Also just found this: "No, no, that hurt" She didn't jump on Tom. It was a poor set and Hooker was back-row and went for the attack as did Tom, who was playing in the front-row. From the look of the set, it looked like it was going to the back-row but it was a poor set.
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Post by donut on May 2, 2019 13:03:18 GMT -5
Her stints of anger were a bit more subdued lol... but she definitely showed outward frustration with her teammates at times. There's a clip out there somewhere that I can't seem to find anymore where Hooker literally jumped on top of Tom, and Tom was PISSED. Also just found this: "No, no, that hurt" She didn't jump on Tom. It was a poor set and Hooker was back-row and went for the attack as did Tom, who was playing in the front-row. From the look of the set, it looked like it was going to the back-row but it was a poor set. I know what happened. She jumped and landed on Tom. Is that language better?
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