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Post by hayven on May 13, 2019 12:22:44 GMT -5
That’s a lot of middles, are some of them moving to the outside?...jk
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 12:53:17 GMT -5
Interestingly Lake and Courtney are the only ones listed as libero’s. Kinda disappointed Akiu got cut and not one more outside like Kingdon or Wilhite. Maybe Karch will continue to use Robinson at the bro position.....which would be a mistake. Other than that I’m fine with cuts made. I’m just really going to be furious if we see the same 14 travel roster all 5 weeks instead of really shuffling through this roster to determine who will play in the finals.
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Post by Disc808 on May 13, 2019 13:09:19 GMT -5
That moment when Courtney's spike touch , as a Libero, is listed as higher than a lot of the middles and OHs lolol
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Post by stanfordvb on May 13, 2019 13:21:06 GMT -5
That moment when Courtney's spike touch , as a Libero, is listed as higher than a lot of the middles and OHs lolol Her vertical is impressive. If I read carefully, Cuttino touches the highest in the gym !
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Post by donut on May 13, 2019 13:47:29 GMT -5
That moment when Courtney's spike touch , as a Libero, is listed as higher than a lot of the middles and OHs lolol I've always thought Courtney had a lot of potential as an international OH. She's had nasty luck with injuries, but she's insanely athletic. This year, she was one of the top blocking OHs in the Italian League (better numbers than Hill and Bartsch). It's just a shame that we have to convert OHs into liberos. It's not good for their player development. It took KRob almost an entire season to look comfortable swinging on the left again.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 14:58:38 GMT -5
Courtney is very weak offensively. She ended the season ranked at 24th OH...that makes her the worse starting OH in the league among the 12 teams (minus Club Italia). One game she hit 0/12. When she played at the 2017 GP she would get blocked over and over. She`s weaker than Whilhite.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 15:02:31 GMT -5
That moment when Courtney's spike touch , as a Libero, is listed as higher than a lot of the middles and OHs lolol I've always thought Courtney had a lot of potential as an international OH. She's had nasty luck with injuries, but she's insanely athletic. This year, she was one of the top blocking OHs in the Italian League (better numbers than Hill and Bartsch). It's just a shame that we have to convert OHs into liberos. It's not good for their player development. It took KRob almost an entire season to look comfortable swinging on the left again. Robinson looked even worse at her first season with Vakfibank. That`s when she benched all season and failed to start over Godze. And that happened before she played as libero.....I don`t think your excuse is valid. In fact she did not put up good numbers in her second season in Italy either.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 15:10:44 GMT -5
Courtney 21 blocks - but she played 82 sets Hill 18 blocks - she played only 62 sets
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Post by donut on May 13, 2019 15:19:44 GMT -5
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Post by donut on May 13, 2019 15:32:51 GMT -5
I've always thought Courtney had a lot of potential as an international OH. She's had nasty luck with injuries, but she's insanely athletic. This year, she was one of the top blocking OHs in the Italian League (better numbers than Hill and Bartsch). It's just a shame that we have to convert OHs into liberos. It's not good for their player development. It took KRob almost an entire season to look comfortable swinging on the left again. Robinson looked even worse at her first season with Vakfibank. That`s when she benched all season and failed to start over Godze. And that happened before she played as libero.....I don`t think your excuse is valid. In fact she did not put up good numbers in her second season in Italy either. I never made an excuse, but I refuse to believe that training all summer as a libero had zero effect on her skills as an OH. Again, you are failing to understand the difference between "this could have had an effect on a player" (see, everyone else: "fast sets contribute to poor performance by USA hitters") and "THIS IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE CAUSE" (see, you: "since players struggle in other offenses, the fast sets can't be a factor!!!!!!!"). You lack basic reasoning skills around multi-factor causality. And KRob hit .300 the year after she won Italian League MVP. She also didn't start over Gozde because of the foreigner rule and because the difference between Gozde and KRob is so much smaller than the difference between Zhu, Lonneke and Rasic and their back-ups (at the time). Gozde was also a DAMN GOOD OH2 (and was key to Vakif Turkish League dominance, considering she was probably the best Turkish player at the time). KRob not starting over her in CEV matches is no indication that KRob is a bad player.
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Post by donut on May 13, 2019 19:44:42 GMT -5
Courtney is very weak offensively. She ended the season ranked at 24th OH...that makes her the worse starting OH in the league among the 12 teams (minus Club Italia). One game she hit 0/12. When she played at the 2017 GP she would get blocked over and over. She`s weaker than Whilhite. Omg missed this You counted down the list on the Italian stats page (Courtney was 23rd btw) and concluded she was the "worse starting OH in the league"...? Do you even know what that list was sorted by? And did you even look at who she was above? This isn't even worth responding to.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 20:15:10 GMT -5
I never said Kelsey is a bad player. I just said there's no reason to blame her time as libero for her offensively struggles.
Larson, Hill and M.B.H are still better than Kelsey. Which means had she played OH..she would have spent VNL and WCH on the bench.
Just like if she goes to Tokyo she will be just the 4th OH....unless Larson plays libero.
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Post by mapuan on May 13, 2019 21:00:00 GMT -5
Kelsey played superbly in the semis and finals of Turkish League.
If she performed that way in the semis of CL, Vakif would be playing in the finals.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 21:35:58 GMT -5
This isn't even worth responding to. And yet...
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 21:47:03 GMT -5
What this thread needs is a good, old fashioned, Hancock v. Carlini pissing match.
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