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Post by wonderwarthog79 on Apr 22, 2019 2:38:19 GMT -5
Allow front row players to tickle each other through the net. I like this one. It's kinda gay and kinda sexy at the same time.
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Post by vbin58 on Apr 22, 2019 8:28:12 GMT -5
Any rules that create more defensive opportunities to score would enhance the game. Blocking the serve should be permitted (it was allowed in the stone age when I played) and it was a definite deterrent to jump servers. To generate more defensive, back court plays, get the offense off the net by allowing blockers to block/attack any ball that they can reach without touching the net (the net should NEVER be touched). A light system, much like fencing, would signal a "touch" of the net.
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Post by beba on Apr 23, 2019 17:49:01 GMT -5
Some schools have circles or dots they bring out during intermission. Students who serve and hit a dot win a pizza.
There should be permanent dots on certain areas of the court. Hit the dot with a kill and your team scores two, maybe even three points, depending on where the dot is located. The defense then not only has to defend against the floor, but be more concerned about certain areas of the floor. And a team behind can try to catch up by aiming at the dots, sort of like the 3-point shot in basketball.
And one of the dots can win your whole team free pizza after the game.
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Post by coahc21 on Apr 24, 2019 10:30:54 GMT -5
Two legit rules that I think should be considered:
1. Limit the number of subs so it's closer to the international game -- promotes athletes playing the entire game and not overspecializing
2. Create an attack line about 3 feet off the center line -- does not deter offense all that much and hopefully prevents shared line ankle injuries
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Post by coahc21 on Apr 24, 2019 11:07:22 GMT -5
Two legit rules that I think should be considered: 1. Limit the number of subs so it's closer to the international game -- promotes athletes playing the entire game and not overspecializing 2. Create an attack line about 3 feet off the center line -- does not deter offense all that much and hopefully prevents shared line ankle injuries There is already a problem in that a 5-1 gives you a humongous defensive advantage by not wasting all your subs on your setters. I'm surprised they would allow a libero but not allow unlimited substitutions for your 6-2 setters. I've never understood the libero rule in the first place. That is what subs were for, and why should one backrow player be allowed to essentially sub for 2 front row players? Shouldn't that require 2 back row specialists? Wouldn't that also get more players into the game? 2. Immediate issues arise when you start to consider things like over passes. I am fully in favor of not allowing any touching of the net or the center line (no BS about half a foot or a full foot under before it is called), or inadvertent nets that don't gain advantage or interfere. Stay off the damn net and stay off the damn center line! 1. The only issue here is allowing more athletes to play the game...limited subs basically takes defensive specialists and vertically challenged setters out of the game unless they are libero Discouraging a 6-2 is exactly what I mean by overspecialization -- in a 6-2 your setter is only playing/learning half the game, just like using d-spec subs for other hitters 2. Definitely some issues worth discussion here, any sort of rule to limit those injuries on the mid-line
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Post by jayj79 on Apr 24, 2019 12:18:52 GMT -5
[There is already a problem in that a 5-1 gives you a humongous defensive advantage by not wasting all your subs on your setters. if it is such a "humongous advantage", then your team should just run a 5-1. No one is forcing the coach to run a 6-2
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Post by deohge on Apr 24, 2019 14:24:15 GMT -5
kills by the libero should be worth 2 points Agreed.
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Post by jayj79 on Apr 24, 2019 15:09:18 GMT -5
kills by the libero should be worth 2 points Only if every ball put over by the libero is also allowed to bounce once. liberos are already limited as to how they can send the ball over the net (or even how they can set the ball for others to send over the net). volleyballs should never be allowed to bounce while in play, since any contact with the floor (once a point has started) terminates that point.
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 24, 2019 17:08:59 GMT -5
We should have a rule that says liberos need to wear solid color jerseys that clearly contrast with the jerseys worn by the rest of the team.
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Post by hammer on Apr 24, 2019 17:34:06 GMT -5
Two legit rules that I think should be considered: 1. Limit the number of subs so it's closer to the international game -- promotes athletes playing the entire game and not overspecializing 2. Create an attack line about 3 feet off the center line -- does not deter offense all that much and hopefully prevents shared line ankle injuries But RED and Kitty Lions fans love those subs -- they won titles at the expense of a team that likes trees.
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Post by oldunc on Apr 24, 2019 18:51:50 GMT -5
Discouraging a 6-2 is exactly what I mean by overspecialization -- in a 6-2 your setter is only playing/learning half the game, just like using d-spec subs for other hitters
2. Definitely some issues worth discussion here, any sort of rule to limit those injuries on the mid-line[/quote]
Personally, I like the old style 6-2 where the setters play front row too- still happens sometimes.
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Post by staticb on Apr 24, 2019 19:40:53 GMT -5
Middles that can pass and play defense will probably still see the court—just probably not as a middle! No one is forcing people to Libero out the middles—it’s just often the best strategy.
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Post by oldunc on Apr 24, 2019 19:48:08 GMT -5
I can stand the idea of libero as setter, but I am unalterably opposed to the use of "libero" as a verb.
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Post by Semp12 on Apr 24, 2019 20:15:27 GMT -5
There is already a problem in that a 5-1 gives you a humongous defensive advantage by not wasting all your subs on your setters. I'm surprised they would allow a libero but not allow unlimited substitutions for your 6-2 setters. I've never understood the libero rule in the first place. That is what subs were for, and why should one backrow player be allowed to essentially sub for 2 front row players? Shouldn't that require 2 back row specialists? Wouldn't that also get more players into the game? 2. Immediate issues arise when you start to consider things like over passes. I am fully in favor of not allowing any touching of the net or the center line (no BS about half a foot or a full foot under before it is called), or inadvertent nets that don't gain advantage or interfere. Stay off the damn net and stay off the damn center line! 1. The only issue here is allowing more athletes to play the game...limited subs basically takes defensive specialists and vertically challenged setters out of the game unless they are libero Discouraging a 6-2 is exactly what I mean by overspecialization -- in a 6-2 your setter is only playing/learning half the game, just like using d-spec subs for other hitters 2. Definitely some issues worth discussion here, any sort of rule to limit those injuries on the mid-line Agreed, run a 6-2 where both setters hit front row/set back row- solved. At developmental ages- it would be huge for the US to limit subs and force teams to play their athletes all the way around. It would be a huge financial hit to clubs to have to carry 8 or 9 on a roster vs. 12-14 as well, but would benefit the athletes so much. The biggest issue is that the developmental age is so different around the country it'd be impossible to iron down a strict rule set without having a complete different division.
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Post by coahc21 on Apr 25, 2019 11:01:13 GMT -5
1. The only issue here is allowing more athletes to play the game...limited subs basically takes defensive specialists and vertically challenged setters out of the game unless they are libero Discouraging a 6-2 is exactly what I mean by overspecialization -- in a 6-2 your setter is only playing/learning half the game, just like using d-spec subs for other hitters 2. Definitely some issues worth discussion here, any sort of rule to limit those injuries on the mid-line Agreed, run a 6-2 where both setters hit front row/set back row- solved. At developmental ages- it would be huge for the US to limit subs and force teams to play their athletes all the way around. It would be a huge financial hit to clubs to have to carry 8 or 9 on a roster vs. 12-14 as well, but would benefit the athletes so much. The biggest issue is that the developmental age is so different around the country it'd be impossible to iron down a strict rule set without having a complete different division. Exactly...I know it accounts for a very small percentage of athletes, but those who make it to the international level are inherently at a disadvantage because they only have high level experience with 3/6 rotations...something you don't see in other top competing countries
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