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Post by ned3vball on Jun 7, 2019 18:25:24 GMT -5
The budget thing is not being addressed. While SoCal is more appealing than upstate NY, the costs will possibly be higher by coming West. Hosting tournaments cost money as well as for schools. Basically you are saying that SCIAC teams have to spend money to have a stronger position at the table come tournament time. I Think the SCIAC just need to do what they do now. They are unique in that they are an island of their own. So for their open weekends they pretty much have to fly once at least and they can find a strong tournament to take them. Their events are also an attractive destination for traveling schools. They are playing a strong schedule. The problem is the selection criteria does not reward them enough for what they do. Their strong schedule, plugged into the selection criteria, translates on paper to the same numbers as a NE school that stayed home. Now in theory the simple answer is the committee members take a common sense approach and notice this obvious difference, and pick accordingly, but for some reason that has not been happening lately, the nature of committees. If you can not trust the committee to make an obvious call then you need to change the rules to make the obvious more obvious.
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Post by Wolfgang on Jun 8, 2019 20:43:57 GMT -5
Can anyone other than bigfan guess how SCIAC is pronounced? No cheating.
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Post by donneyp on Jun 8, 2019 21:19:48 GMT -5
Can anyone other than bigfan guess how SCIAC is pronounced? No cheating. It is pronounced "Southern California Intercollegiate Athletics Conference"
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Post by donneyp on Jun 8, 2019 21:28:32 GMT -5
Hint to frustrated central and western regional teams: travel to the hothouses of the northeast and feast on the ranked teams. Pablo might turn up his nose, but the NCAA eats that stuff up. I honestly don't think the NCAA cares about this. Most D3 kids are attending schools near home, and because the sport itself does not have an even distribution of talent the regions are going top vary in quality pretty wildly. Most D3 kids, maybe. But if you look at the top teams, especially in the northeast, I'd guesstimate that most of the top teams are 50% or more from out of state or more than 2-3 hours away. Wesleyan has 4 kids from the eastern time zone and 9 from California. Tufts has 1 from the eastern time zone, 8 from California. Ithaca has 7 from the eastern time zone and 9 from elsewhere.
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Post by Wolfgang on Jun 8, 2019 21:28:56 GMT -5
Can anyone other than bigfan guess how SCIAC is pronounced? No cheating. It is pronounced "Southern California Intercollegiate Athletics Conference"
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Post by hammer on Jun 8, 2019 21:52:13 GMT -5
"SCI - AC". About a month ago Kana Moriyama of Caltech won the Division III women’s singles championship at the Ojai Tournament, and in doing so became the first Caltech tennis player to win The Ojai. Kana is a Mechanical Engineering major and has passed the Computational Solid Mechanics sequence.
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Post by Wolfgang on Jun 8, 2019 22:36:16 GMT -5
" SCI - AC". About a month ago Kana Moriyama of Caltech won the Division III women’s singles championship at the Ojai Tournament, and in doing so became the first Caltech tennis player to win The Ojai. Kana is a Mechanical Engineering major and has passed the Computational Solid Mechanics sequence. You did not even give a pronunciation guide. Anyway, I suspect you got it wrong.
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Post by hammer on Jun 8, 2019 23:36:17 GMT -5
SCI as in Science, and AK as in hack ... thought it was obvious. I know still strike two, but what the 'ell, you don't learn without taking a shot.
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Post by Wolfgang on Jun 9, 2019 0:06:57 GMT -5
SCI as in Science, and AK as in hack ... thought it was obvious. I know still strike two, but what the 'ell, you don't learn without taking a shot. Wrong. But close.
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Post by tmb on Jun 9, 2019 5:59:05 GMT -5
How many schools are there who fund air travel I wonder? I'd think a HUGE majority are fundraised by the team and/or parent donations with a small portion by the school.
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Post by ned3vball on Jun 9, 2019 6:23:05 GMT -5
Hint to frustrated central and western regional teams: travel to the hothouses of the northeast and feast on the ranked teams. Pablo might turn up his nose, but the NCAA eats that stuff up. I honestly don't think the NCAA cares about this. Most D3 kids are attending schools near home, and because the sport itself does not have an even distribution of talent the regions are going top vary in quality pretty wildly. Most D3 kids, maybe. But if you look at the top teams, especially in the northeast, I'd guesstimate that most of the top teams are 50% or more from out of state or more than 2-3 hours away. Wesleyan has 4 kids from the eastern time zone and 9 from California. Tufts has 1 from the eastern time zone, 8 from California. Ithaca has 7 from the eastern time zone and 9 from elsewhere. In the NESCAC it is completely dominated by California kids. On the 2018 rosters there were 166 players. 65(39%) of the players from CA. Top 6 states: CA 65, MA 17, NY 11, IL 10, CT 9, FL 8 If you focus on just the top 6 teams the effect is even stronger. 47 of 96(49%) players from CA. Top 6 states for the better teams: CA 47, IL 9, FL 6, MA 5, NY 4, TX 3
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Post by ned3vball on Jun 9, 2019 7:55:13 GMT -5
How many schools are there who fund air travel I wonder? I'd think a HUGE majority are fundraised by the team and/or parent donations with a small portion by the school. I would guess you are right. The few times I have asked AD types about this the best you can get is a non answer since they don't want to directly talk about money unless you are handing them a check as you bring it up. Obviously geography means some schools have to budget for it; The UAA, Colorado College, the various islands that make up the West region(if they want to play anyone good outside of their league). Williams flies regularly, and Amherst NEVER flies(or even leaves shouting distance of the campus), and they have the same amount of money so why is that? Philosophy? Does Williams have a vball sugar daddy? In the Northeast, volleyball is hurt by no technical need to fly to make a schedule, with other sports like baseball/softball that have to if they want to get in a full season.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Jun 9, 2019 12:07:53 GMT -5
The OAC is a bus league.
Surprising, I know.
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Post by hammer on Jun 9, 2019 14:36:56 GMT -5
SCI as in Science, and AK as in hack ... thought it was obvious. I know still strike two, but what the 'ell, you don't learn without taking a shot. Wrong. But close. Ok, how about SCI - YUCK ... looking for that third strike and you're out!
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Post by trollhunter on Jun 9, 2019 15:05:11 GMT -5
SCI as in Science, and AK as in hack ... thought it was obvious. I know still strike two, but what the 'ell, you don't learn without taking a shot. Sky - AcK ? S- Kayak?
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