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Post by horns1 on Dec 11, 2023 15:00:17 GMT -5
maybe Marina is transferring after this season to try and play somewhere on scholarship who knows what the deal is After 2 seasons at Texas, that's when it's decision time for most walk-ons.
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Post by slxpress on Dec 11, 2023 15:02:34 GMT -5
maybe Marina is transferring after this season to try and play somewhere on scholarship who knows what the deal is After 2 seasons at Texas, that's when it's decision time for most walk-ons. Scholarship players, too, for that matter.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Dec 11, 2023 15:02:55 GMT -5
I said exactly that. Elliots JOB is to make the roster better. its to win. Hes doing exactly that. My comment may been too premature but it seems clear that texas is showing interest in carlson. Im just saying if I was Ella, I would not be the most happy. Again from an outside perspective, it just seems like Elliot does not really have faith in the players he recruited. If texas was working with what other programs got, I would understand wanting a top talent. Like for some teams, a top ten prep outside is a once in a lifetime get. For texas, they have plenty riding their bench. Im not saying elliot is wrong for going after Carlson. I just can see why recruits might feel some way (not saying they do but I can see it) It’s not clear Elliott is going after Carlson, nor what the speculative interest might entail. She’s a very talented player so it’s pretty easy to see why there may be interest. Your post indicated there was a commitment already. I know you know there’s no commitment yet, so I can only assume you were posting hypothetically, but it’s an important distinction you failed to make. You’re perfectly allowed to assume what would it mean if Carlson were to commit to Texas, but it’s perfectly natural to get a lot of pushback from Texas fans when that hasn’t happened yet. Which is exactly what you’re seeing. I totally get why there would be pushback. I expected it. I did not post that to troll, I did not post that to make ass. Its truly just how I feel at the moment. I think the portal while does alot of good, also does a lot of harm IMO
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Post by horns1 on Dec 11, 2023 15:05:23 GMT -5
If I was ella i would be pissed This is clearly not a back up setter committ. This is a "we want someone new committ" Look I get it, texas wants the best of the best, I dont blame elliot. His job is to win. It just truly feels like he has no trust in his players IMO. Woah, hold your horses! There's not a commit of any kind Also, idk, but was Ewert a "we want something new commit" to try to unseat SKT?I don't know, I just don't see her coming here. If she did there would be 4 setters on the roster. I think the Ewert situation was quite unique. She had her fifth (COVID) season available. I believe Colorado did not plan on awarding her a 'ship. Not sure any of us know Ewert's reasoning for coming to Texas (sure backup, chance to win the starting job, being part of a post-season team, education, etc.). And, not sure we ever concluded with certainty she was on 'ship at Texas or just NIL.
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Post by hornshouse23 on Dec 11, 2023 15:14:58 GMT -5
Watching players get recruited over seems like a tough pill. And it really truly is, if in fact that’s the case here. But then you have to remember we’re one bad landing away from having to rely on a back up. Why not commission the best you can get for that role, even if they could start at a dozen other top programs. Jenna Ewert comes to mind, and her decision paid off with a natty and current pro career. SKT behind jhenna. Caffey wasn’t promised her role, and had Bella and Asjia to compete with. It just is what it is, and if we can fill the cupboards, let’s.
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Post by slxpress on Dec 11, 2023 15:15:23 GMT -5
Woah, hold your horses! There's not a commit of any kind Also, idk, but was Ewert a "we want something new commit" to try to unseat SKT?I don't know, I just don't see her coming here. If she did there would be 4 setters on the roster. I think the Ewert situation was quite unique. She had her fifth (COVID) season available. I believe Colorado did not plan on awarding her a 'ship. Not sure any of us know Ewert's reasoning for coming to Texas (sure backup, chance to win the starting job, being part of a post-season team, education, etc.). And, not sure we ever concluded with certainty she was on 'ship at Texas or just NIL. I was told by someone who would know that I trust, that Ewert and Caffey were the two players of the obvious 14 scholarship players that were NIL only. She attended Texas for a single semester and earned a graduate certificate. I’m sure the tuition costs were significantly reduced compared to taking classes towards a degree.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Dec 11, 2023 15:19:03 GMT -5
Watching players get recruited over seems like a tough pill. And it really truly is, if in fact that’s the case here. But then you have to remember we’re one bad landing away from having to rely on a back up. Why not commission the best you can get for that role, even if they could start at a dozen other top programs. Jenna Ewert comes to mind, and her decision paid off with a natty and current pro career. SKT behind jhenna. Caffey wasn’t promised her role, and had Bella and Asjia to compete with. It just is what it is, and if we can fill the cupboards, let’s. this is a better way of what I wanted to say I never BLAMED elliot for doing what he did. Hes doing what his job is, to win. And hes done a damn good job at it. But, I can totally see why it would be a tough pill to swallow for a lot of athletes, and why some would transfer, and even maybe be hesitant at committing to a program. Its not right or wrong, but from an outside perspective, and MAYBE to some athletes it may come accross as he does not trust his current players I worded it poorly, and I understand that, but my opinion still stands. The portal is a risky game. It may pay off immediately, but I dont think we have truly seen its effects in the long run
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Dec 11, 2023 15:27:46 GMT -5
Watching players get recruited over seems like a tough pill. And it really truly is, if in fact that’s the case here. But then you have to remember we’re one bad landing away from having to rely on a back up. Why not commission the best you can get for that role, even if they could start at a dozen other top programs. Jenna Ewert comes to mind, and her decision paid off with a natty and current pro career. SKT behind jhenna. Caffey wasn’t promised her role, and had Bella and Asjia to compete with. It just is what it is, and if we can fill the cupboards, let’s. this is a better way of what I wanted to say I never BLAMED elliot for doing what he did. Hes doing what his job is, to win. And hes done a damn good job at it. But, I can totally see why it would be a tough pill to swallow for a lot of athletes, and why some would transfer, and even maybe be hesitant at committing to a program. Its not right or wrong, but from an outside perspective, and MAYBE to some athletes it may come accross as he does not trust his current players I worded it poorly, and I understand that, but my opinion still stands. The portal is a risky game. It may pay off immediately, but I dont think we have truly seen its effects in the long run I have every confidence that JE will be on point in explaining to athletes about what he is doing and why. More than one former player has commented on his high EQ
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Post by slxpress on Dec 11, 2023 15:41:08 GMT -5
Watching players get recruited over seems like a tough pill. And it really truly is, if in fact that’s the case here. But then you have to remember we’re one bad landing away from having to rely on a back up. Why not commission the best you can get for that role, even if they could start at a dozen other top programs. Jenna Ewert comes to mind, and her decision paid off with a natty and current pro career. SKT behind jhenna. Caffey wasn’t promised her role, and had Bella and Asjia to compete with. It just is what it is, and if we can fill the cupboards, let’s. this is a better way of what I wanted to say I never BLAMED elliot for doing what he did. Hes doing what his job is, to win. And hes done a damn good job at it. But, I can totally see why it would be a tough pill to swallow for a lot of athletes, and why some would transfer, and even maybe be hesitant at committing to a program. Its not right or wrong, but from an outside perspective, and MAYBE to some athletes it may come accross as he does not trust his current players I worded it poorly, and I understand that, but my opinion still stands. The portal is a risky game. It may pay off immediately, but I dont think we have truly seen its effects in the long run Well, we’re definitely suffering. I wake up in a sweat at night worrying about the Texas athletic program and how in the world we’ll ever be able to navigate the transfer portal and NIL successfully. Your deep concern is duly noted.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Dec 11, 2023 15:43:10 GMT -5
this is a better way of what I wanted to say I never BLAMED elliot for doing what he did. Hes doing what his job is, to win. And hes done a damn good job at it. But, I can totally see why it would be a tough pill to swallow for a lot of athletes, and why some would transfer, and even maybe be hesitant at committing to a program. Its not right or wrong, but from an outside perspective, and MAYBE to some athletes it may come accross as he does not trust his current players I worded it poorly, and I understand that, but my opinion still stands. The portal is a risky game. It may pay off immediately, but I dont think we have truly seen its effects in the long run Well, we’re definitely suffering. I wake up in a sweat at night worrying about the Texas athletic program and how in the world we’ll ever be able to navigate the transfer portal and NIL successfully. Your deep concern is duly noted. Now you’re just being an ass and dramatic for no reason But go off I guess
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Post by stevehorn on Dec 11, 2023 15:47:53 GMT -5
I think the Ewert situation was quite unique. She had her fifth (COVID) season available. I believe Colorado did not plan on awarding her a 'ship. Not sure any of us know Ewert's reasoning for coming to Texas (sure backup, chance to win the starting job, being part of a post-season team, education, etc.). And, not sure we ever concluded with certainty she was on 'ship at Texas or just NIL. I was told by someone who would know that I trust, that Ewert and Caffey were the two players of the obvious 14 scholarship players that were NIL only. She attended Texas for a single semester and earned a graduate certificate. I’m sure the tuition costs were significantly reduced compared to taking classes towards a degree. Caffey seemed obvious. She didn't even decide to leave Nebraska until the summer when you think we already had all of our ships committed. You could speculate about several players being the other one, but Ewert being the one is just as reasonable as several other possibilities. You got any inside dope on which two this year. We are in the same situation where there appears to be 14 obvious scholarship players with only 12 ships available.
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Post by slxpress on Dec 11, 2023 15:49:54 GMT -5
Well, we’re definitely suffering. I wake up in a sweat at night worrying about the Texas athletic program and how in the world we’ll ever be able to navigate the transfer portal and NIL successfully. Your deep concern is duly noted. Now you’re just being an ass and dramatic for no reason But go off I guess Is my entertainment not a reason? You’re not a Texas fan. You have no love for us. When you get “concerned” for athletes and the effect all of this has on them on Texas threads, you’re going to get pushback. If you don’t like the form that pushback takes, too bad. This whole conversation has a different tenor without your involvement. Which is not to discourage you from participating. But you getting all defensive is hilarious to me. Like this was going to go a different way.
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Post by stevehorn on Dec 11, 2023 15:50:22 GMT -5
There’s no commitment, yet. The role of the coaching staff is to make the roster better. That is not necessarily my role as a fan. Every fan gets to do it differently, and the truth is I get emotionally attached to players. Like I did Kahahawai. I am also emotionally attached to Swindle and to Halter. I’d also like to get a chance to see what Byrd can do. If the staff decides it’s important to bring in high caliber talent at any of those positions, I get it. But there’s still going to be a part of me that wants to see Swindle as the starting setter and Halter as the starting libero, because the truth is I get a kick out of rooting for them. I said exactly that. Elliots JOB is to make the roster better. its to win. Hes doing exactly that. My comment may been too premature but it seems clear that texas is showing interest in carlson. Im just saying if I was Ella, I would not be the most happy. Again from an outside perspective, it just seems like Elliot does not really have faith in the players he recruited. If texas was working with what other programs got, I would understand wanting a top talent. Like for some teams, a top ten prep outside is a once in a lifetime get. For texas, they have plenty riding their bench. Im not saying elliot is wrong for going after Carlson. I just can see why recruits might feel some way (not saying they do but I can see it) Do people consider Carlson better than Swindle? If so, I'm not sure why.
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Post by slxpress on Dec 11, 2023 15:54:24 GMT -5
I was told by someone who would know that I trust, that Ewert and Caffey were the two players of the obvious 14 scholarship players that were NIL only. She attended Texas for a single semester and earned a graduate certificate. I’m sure the tuition costs were significantly reduced compared to taking classes towards a degree. Caffey seemed obvious. She didn't even decide to leave Nebraska until the summer when you think we already had all of our ships committed. You could speculate about several players being the other one, but Ewert being the one is just as reasonable as several other possibilities. You got any inside dope on which two this year. We are in the same situation where there appears to be 14 obvious scholarship players with only 12 ships available. No. But I don’t see this roster with 14 obvious scholarship players the way I did last year. I feel confident Barnes is using the same program Caffey and Ewert did. She graduated in the spring from A&M-CC. Enrolled in some kind of graduate certificate program for the fall, and then she’s gone after the one semester. I don’t know who the other uncertainty would be. But no, I don’t have any inside scoop on this roster. It was pretty much a one time thing regarding Ewert and Caffey.
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Post by slxpress on Dec 11, 2023 15:59:15 GMT -5
I said exactly that. Elliots JOB is to make the roster better. its to win. Hes doing exactly that. My comment may been too premature but it seems clear that texas is showing interest in carlson. Im just saying if I was Ella, I would not be the most happy. Again from an outside perspective, it just seems like Elliot does not really have faith in the players he recruited. If texas was working with what other programs got, I would understand wanting a top talent. Like for some teams, a top ten prep outside is a once in a lifetime get. For texas, they have plenty riding their bench. Im not saying elliot is wrong for going after Carlson. I just can see why recruits might feel some way (not saying they do but I can see it) Do people consider Carlson better than Swindle? If so, I'm not sure why. I don’t. But I really like Swindle. I think she gets a bad rap. She’s a freshman. She’s improved a bunch over the course of the year. She’s an obvious gamer, playing injured like she has. I feel like she’s next in the line of Texas setters that never get enough credit because she sets for Texas. I felt that way about Gabriel and SKT, too. I do really like Carlson as a setter, but as I said elsewhere I don’t want to be in another national championship game where we can’t get out of a rotation because the opponent is going straight to their left pin and abusing the block the setter is putting up. I watched us do it to USD last year and Tennessee this year. I like being on this side of the equation more.
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