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Post by hornfanaustin on Dec 11, 2023 17:14:32 GMT -5
Do people consider Carlson better than Swindle? If so, I'm not sure why. I don’t. But I really like Swindle. I think she gets a bad rap. She’s a freshman. She’s improved a bunch over the course of the year. She’s an obvious gamer, playing injured like she has. I feel like she’s next in the line of Texas setters that never get enough credit because she sets for Texas. I felt that way about Gabriel and SKT, too. I do really like Carlson as a setter, but as I said elsewhere I don’t want to be in another national championship game where we can’t get out of a rotation because the opponent is going straight to their left pin and abusing the block the setter is putting up. I watched us do it to USD last year and Tennessee this year. I like being on this side of the equation more. I really liked Shook, purely based on her ranking and her height. And then when JE brought in Jhenna, I thought okay someone to push her, but you're not going to give the job to a walkon over a scholarship player. But then....yeah it was obvious that Shook just didn't have "it" and Jhenna did. I also thought, why are you bringing in a veteran setter when Jhenna is established as our setter. But then, you saw the open argument Jhenna was having with JE during the loss to Louisville in Regionals. Someone was unhappy with her play and someone wasn't taking it anymore. Again the question, if Jhenna had stayed, kept the starting job and all the other transfers came in still, would we have won the NC? No.
I was thinking this today. JE has 2 NC. There are only 2 other active coaches who have 2 NCs or more. This whole thing of "the transfer portal" is old news. Look at Paulina and Ebony. It didn't require the "portal" to exist for them to transfer in. And JE never blocked anyone from leaving. I have to trust that he knows what he's doing as well as understands team chemistry. After all he's got 2 NC and.....checking my office wall....I have none.
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Post by stevehorn on Dec 11, 2023 17:16:42 GMT -5
These 10 are on scholarship: Nya, Devin, Jordyn, Jenna, Madi, Kaylei, Mari, Sydney, Emma and Ella. We know that Kenna, Marina and Reilly are walk-ons. That means there are 2 schollies left, so three of these five are not on scholarship: Molly Carissa Auburn Asjia Bella My guess is Molly, Carissa and Asjia. Molly because when JE announced that she was returning (early 2022 season at Point Texas), he made a comment about finding NIL money for her, and Carissa because she's a Texas resident with in-state tuition. Asjia because she announced her return very late in the 2022 season when allocations had been made, and it's not like she needs a schollie, LOL. I also think it's less likely that someone out-of-state would be a walk-on, but that's just me. I thought the scuttlebutt was that Kaylei isn't on scholarship but her $ is fully covered by NIL Supposedly she left Nebraska because she wasn't going to be on scholarship in 2022.
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Post by hornfanaustin on Dec 11, 2023 17:19:33 GMT -5
I thought the scuttlebutt was that Kaylei isn't on scholarship but her $ is fully covered by NIL Supposedly she left Nebraska because she wasn't going to be on scholarship in 2022. JE has said multiple times, "We (coaches) can not and do not direct NIL. We can tell them of the opportunities, but we (coaches) don't give NIL to players"
Basically, he can't say to "Hey, we want you to come to Texas, but unfortunately I don't have a scholarship to give. If you look around or talk to some of the other players, they might be able to point you to NIL, but I can't"
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Post by widdledumpling on Dec 11, 2023 17:21:34 GMT -5
Supposedly she left Nebraska because she wasn't going to be on scholarship in 2022. JE has said multiple times, "We (coaches) can not and do not direct NIL. We can tell them of the opportunities, but we (coaches) don't give NIL to players"
Basically, he can't say to "Hey, we want you to come to Texas, but unfortunately I don't have a scholarship to give. If you look around or talk to some of the other players, they might be able to point you to NIL, but I can't"
Such a weird smoke and mirrors system lol Also everyone talking about Rutherford coming here as if Devin had already transferred
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Post by stevehorn on Dec 11, 2023 17:26:29 GMT -5
Supposedly she left Nebraska because she wasn't going to be on scholarship in 2022. JE has said multiple times, "We (coaches) can not and do not direct NIL. We can tell them of the opportunities, but we (coaches) don't give NIL to players"
Basically, he can't say to "Hey, we want you to come to Texas, but unfortunately I don't have a scholarship to give. If you look around or talk to some of the other players, they might be able to point you to NIL, but I can't"
I know the official "rules" and what JE has to say publicly. I won't bother to go into all the ways that you can go around the rules.
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Dec 11, 2023 17:26:48 GMT -5
These 10 are on scholarship: Nya, Devin, Jordyn, Jenna, Madi, Kaylei, Mari, Sydney, Emma and Ella. We know that Kenna, Marina and Reilly are walk-ons. That means there are 2 schollies left, so three of these five are not on scholarship: Molly Carissa Auburn Asjia Bella My guess is Molly, Carissa and Asjia. Molly because when JE announced that she was returning (early 2022 season at Point Texas), he made a comment about finding NIL money for her, and Carissa because she's a Texas resident with in-state tuition. Asjia because she announced her return very late in the 2022 season when allocations had been made, and it's not like she needs a schollie, LOL. I also think it's less likely that someone out-of-state would be a walk-on, but that's just me. I thought the scuttlebutt was that Kaylei isn't on scholarship but her $ is fully covered by NIL I'm pretty sure she's on scholarship. If she was willing to pay her own way, she would have stayed at Nebraska
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Post by hornfanaustin on Dec 11, 2023 17:29:37 GMT -5
I was thinking that the only (majority of the season) starters, in their last year at Texas left the team in transfer, since my fandom began were:
1. Lexi Sun 2. Skyler Fields 3. Jhenna Gabriel
I thought WTH is going on? With the first two, post transfer comments made me sour on them from a fandom point of view.
The rest, many are doing great which showed that they were great players, but stuck behind better players.
I have to quit being so emotionally invested in these players, but...in the words of the Seth Curry commercial "I can't"
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Dec 11, 2023 17:34:45 GMT -5
Supposedly she left Nebraska because she wasn't going to be on scholarship in 2022. JE has said multiple times, "We (coaches) can not and do not direct NIL. We can tell them of the opportunities, but we (coaches) don't give NIL to players"
Basically, he can't say to "Hey, we want you to come to Texas, but unfortunately I don't have a scholarship to give. If you look around or talk to some of the other players, they might be able to point you to NIL, but I can't"
There are people friendly with the program (but not officially part of it) who help SAs with NIL opportunities. Julianne Faucette was helping during the 2022 season, I think. Since then, I think a lot of SAs go through Jermaine's agency - they are allowed to have agents for NIL
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Post by slxpress on Dec 11, 2023 17:43:10 GMT -5
I don’t. But I really like Swindle. I think she gets a bad rap. She’s a freshman. She’s improved a bunch over the course of the year. She’s an obvious gamer, playing injured like she has. I feel like she’s next in the line of Texas setters that never get enough credit because she sets for Texas. I felt that way about Gabriel and SKT, too. I do really like Carlson as a setter, but as I said elsewhere I don’t want to be in another national championship game where we can’t get out of a rotation because the opponent is going straight to their left pin and abusing the block the setter is putting up. I watched us do it to USD last year and Tennessee this year. I like being on this side of the equation more. I really liked Shook, purely based on her ranking and her height. And then when JE brought in Jhenna, I thought okay someone to push her, but you're not going to give the job to a walkon over a scholarship player. But then....yeah it was obvious that Shook just didn't have "it" and Jhenna did. I also thought, why are you bringing in a veteran setter when Jhenna is established as our setter. But then, you saw the open argument Jhenna was having with JE during the loss to Louisville in Regionals. Someone was unhappy with her play and someone wasn't taking it anymore. Again the question, if Jhenna had stayed, kept the starting job and all the other transfers came in still, would we have won the NC? No.
I was thinking this today. JE has 2 NC. There are only 2 other active coaches who have 2 NCs or more. This whole thing of "the transfer portal" is old news. Look at Paulina and Ebony. It didn't require the "portal" to exist for them to transfer in. And JE never blocked anyone from leaving. I have to trust that he knows what he's doing as well as understands team chemistry. After all he's got 2 NC and.....checking my office wall....I have none.
You’re talking about the Louisville regional but the one I REALLY remember was during the Nebraska match in Greg after SKT subbed in. I mean, it’s not like Gabriel was the chief issue from my perspective. The horrible serve receive was. Gabriel was running around with her hair on fire even more than usual. I know this. I am very happy SKT was our starting setter last year and I’m beyond overjoyed Gabriel had such an amazing season at UNLV. And then this year she followed Sullivan to Missouri and they had an incredible year. It makes me feel like things worked out the way they were supposed to. And maybe Swindle transfers out and is successful somewhere else while a different setter takes over the starting role. I don’t know. I can’t predict the future. But I do know what my emotions are, and that has very little to do with how good of a coach Elliott is. My emotions are I want to see what Swindle’s career arc ends up being at Texas, because I continue to have confidence it’s going to be really good. That’s not about whether Elliott should bring in another setter or whether or not they should get the starting job. That’s about really liking Swindle as a player. I think she’s done better than a lot of people have given her credit for outside the AVCA southwest regional people that recognized her as freshman of the year. Or maybe the Big 12 that put her on the all freshman team. I like her. I like what she brings to the team. I want to see how she progresses from somewhere other than the bench. But those are just my feelings and not really a rational or analytical judgement on roster makeup. Frankly, I wanted something similar for Kahahawai, and it just didn’t work out that way. We’re in the Final Four with an opportunity to win another national championship, so it’s tough to argue Elliott and the staff don’t know what they’re doing. I’ve always felt a great deal of confidence in that anyway, regardless of any frustrations as a fan, but the proof is in the pudding.
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Post by slxpress on Dec 11, 2023 17:48:21 GMT -5
I was thinking that the only (majority of the season) starters, in their last year at Texas left the team in transfer, since my fandom began were:
1. Lexi Sun 2. Skyler Fields 3. Jhenna Gabriel
I thought WTH is going on? With the first two, post transfer comments made me sour on them from a fandom point of view.
The rest, many are doing great which showed that they were great players, but stuck behind better players.
I have to quit being so emotionally invested in these players, but...in the words of the Seth Curry commercial "I can't"
I don’t want to. Where’s the fun in that? I love being emotionally invested in players. I think there may be an issue in that I don’t get emotionally involved in all of them. In some sports I could hardly wait for some players to graduate (I guess that’s still an emotional involvement of a kind). They’re still kids to me, so that’s not fair, but to me that’s how it works when I have such an emotional investment in an outcome I have no control over.
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Post by texasex01 on Dec 11, 2023 17:50:55 GMT -5
Caffey seemed obvious. She didn't even decide to leave Nebraska until the summer when you think we already had all of our ships committed. You could speculate about several players being the other one, but Ewert being the one is just as reasonable as several other possibilities. You got any inside dope on which two this year. We are in the same situation where there appears to be 14 obvious scholarship players with only 12 ships available. These 10 are on scholarship: Nya, Devin, Jordyn, Jenna, Madi, Kaylei, Mari, Sydney, Emma and Ella. We know that Kenna, Marina and Reilly are walk-ons. That means there are 2 schollies left, so three of these five are not on scholarship: Molly Carissa Auburn Asjia Bella My guess is Molly, Carissa and Asjia. Molly because when JE announced that she was returning (early 2022 season at Point Texas), he made a comment about finding NIL money for her, and Carissa because she's a Texas resident with in-state tuition. Asjia because she announced her return very late in the 2022 season when allocations had been made, and it's not like she needs a schollie, LOL. I also think it's less likely that someone out-of-state would be a walk-on, but that's just me. Bella and Auburn are on athletic scholarship...along with the 10 you listed above. In addition, all of the athletes receive NIL money through the Texas One Fund (~$250,000 raised during The Gala), Opendorse (The Leaverage Program: The Official Texas Longhorns Marketplace for NIL Deals), or from NIL sponsors directly (NIL activities must be consistent with the law of the state where the school is located).
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Dec 11, 2023 17:56:06 GMT -5
I really liked Shook, purely based on her ranking and her height. And then when JE brought in Jhenna, I thought okay someone to push her, but you're not going to give the job to a walkon over a scholarship player. But then....yeah it was obvious that Shook just didn't have "it" and Jhenna did. I also thought, why are you bringing in a veteran setter when Jhenna is established as our setter. But then, you saw the open argument Jhenna was having with JE during the loss to Louisville in Regionals. Someone was unhappy with her play and someone wasn't taking it anymore. Again the question, if Jhenna had stayed, kept the starting job and all the other transfers came in still, would we have won the NC? No.
I was thinking this today. JE has 2 NC. There are only 2 other active coaches who have 2 NCs or more. This whole thing of "the transfer portal" is old news. Look at Paulina and Ebony. It didn't require the "portal" to exist for them to transfer in. And JE never blocked anyone from leaving. I have to trust that he knows what he's doing as well as understands team chemistry. After all he's got 2 NC and.....checking my office wall....I have none.
You’re talking about the Louisville regional but the one I REALLY remember was during the Nebraska match in Greg after SKT subbed in. I mean, it’s not like Gabriel was the chief issue from my perspective. The horrible serve receive was. Gabriel was running around with her hair on fire even more than usual. I know this. I am very happy SKT was our starting setter last year and I’m beyond overjoyed Gabriel had such an amazing season at UNLV. And then this year she followed Sullivan to Missouri and they had an incredible year. It makes me feel like things worked out the way they were supposed to. And maybe Swindle transfers out and is successful somewhere else while a different setter takes over the starting role. I don’t know. I can’t predict the future. But I do know what my emotions are, and that has very little to do with how good of a coach Elliott is. My emotions are I want to see what Swindle’s career arc ends up being at Texas, because I continue to have confidence it’s going to be really good. That’s not about whether Elliott should bring in another setter or whether or not they should get the starting job. That’s about really liking Swindle as a player. I think she’s done better than a lot of people have given her credit for outside the AVCA southwest regional people that recognized her as freshman of the year. Or maybe the Big 12 that put her on the all freshman team. I like her. I like what she brings to the team. I want to see how she progresses from somewhere other than the bench. But those are just my feelings and not really a rational or analytical judgement on roster makeup. Frankly, I wanted something similar for Kahahawai, and it just didn’t work out that way. We’re in the Final Four with an opportunity to win another national championship, so it’s tough to argue Elliott and the staff don’t know what they’re doing. I’ve always felt a great deal of confidence in that anyway, regardless of any frustrations as a fan, but the proof is in the pudding. I really like Ella Swindle. Some so-called Texas fans have bitched and moaned about her location, and how she's another Ashley Shook and should be replaced at first opportunity. I think it's amazing that those people have never played sports, or been nervous, or been injured, because how else could they be so devoid of human empathy and be so ready to throw someone away like that. For one thing, I hope they never become parents or spend any time around children or young adults because we don't need them tearing down people's mental health. We're not done with the Freshman season yet (hopefully not until Sunday!!) but I'm excited to see what Ella's 100% healthy, experienced Sophomore season will be like.
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Post by slxpress on Dec 11, 2023 18:03:26 GMT -5
You’re talking about the Louisville regional but the one I REALLY remember was during the Nebraska match in Greg after SKT subbed in. I mean, it’s not like Gabriel was the chief issue from my perspective. The horrible serve receive was. Gabriel was running around with her hair on fire even more than usual. I know this. I am very happy SKT was our starting setter last year and I’m beyond overjoyed Gabriel had such an amazing season at UNLV. And then this year she followed Sullivan to Missouri and they had an incredible year. It makes me feel like things worked out the way they were supposed to. And maybe Swindle transfers out and is successful somewhere else while a different setter takes over the starting role. I don’t know. I can’t predict the future. But I do know what my emotions are, and that has very little to do with how good of a coach Elliott is. My emotions are I want to see what Swindle’s career arc ends up being at Texas, because I continue to have confidence it’s going to be really good. That’s not about whether Elliott should bring in another setter or whether or not they should get the starting job. That’s about really liking Swindle as a player. I think she’s done better than a lot of people have given her credit for outside the AVCA southwest regional people that recognized her as freshman of the year. Or maybe the Big 12 that put her on the all freshman team. I like her. I like what she brings to the team. I want to see how she progresses from somewhere other than the bench. But those are just my feelings and not really a rational or analytical judgement on roster makeup. Frankly, I wanted something similar for Kahahawai, and it just didn’t work out that way. We’re in the Final Four with an opportunity to win another national championship, so it’s tough to argue Elliott and the staff don’t know what they’re doing. I’ve always felt a great deal of confidence in that anyway, regardless of any frustrations as a fan, but the proof is in the pudding. I really like Ella Swindle. Some so-called Texas fans have bitched and moaned about her location, and how she's another Ashley Shook and should be replaced at first opportunity. I think it's amazing that those people have never played sports, or been nervous, or been injured, because how else could they be so devoid of human empathy and be so ready to throw someone away like that. For one thing, I hope they never become parents or spend any time around children or young adults because we don't need them tearing down people's mental health. We're not done with the Freshman season yet (hopefully not until Sunday!!) but I'm excited to see what Ella's 100% healthy, experienced Sophomore season will be like. Honestly I see way more non Texas fans criticizing her than Texas fans. It’s just that the Texas fans who do it, do it repeatedly. But on big Texas match threads, it’s unbelievable how many non Texas fans want to jump in to critique her location. Well, it would be more unbelievable if I hadn’t seen this same show before. Deja vu all over again.
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Post by austinhorn21 on Dec 11, 2023 18:04:23 GMT -5
JE has said multiple times, "We (coaches) can not and do not direct NIL. We can tell them of the opportunities, but we (coaches) don't give NIL to players"
Basically, he can't say to "Hey, we want you to come to Texas, but unfortunately I don't have a scholarship to give. If you look around or talk to some of the other players, they might be able to point you to NIL, but I can't"
Such a weird smoke and mirrors system lol Also everyone talking about Rutherford coming here as if Devin had already transferred highly unlikely Devin will be here next year.
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Post by widdledumpling on Dec 11, 2023 18:08:17 GMT -5
I really like Ella Swindle. Some so-called Texas fans have bitched and moaned about her location, and how she's another Ashley Shook and should be replaced at first opportunity. I think it's amazing that those people have never played sports, or been nervous, or been injured, because how else could they be so devoid of human empathy and be so ready to throw someone away like that. For one thing, I hope they never become parents or spend any time around children or young adults because we don't need them tearing down people's mental health. We're not done with the Freshman season yet (hopefully not until Sunday!!) but I'm excited to see what Ella's 100% healthy, experienced Sophomore season will be like. Honestly I see way more non Texas fans criticizing her than Texas fans. It’s just that the Texas fans who do it, do it repeatedly. But on big Texas match threads, it’s unbelievable how many non Texas fans want to jump in to critique her location. Well, it would be more unbelievable if I hadn’t seen this same show before. Deja vu all over again. I honestly wonder what it would take to have people acknowledge a Texas setter as elite. I personally think SKT was elite (and I know some analysts ranked her as the best setter in the country her last year at Utah)--she was so good at reversing the flow, and her backset was insane. She won a NC. But she gets very little respect on here For a long time Penn State, Nebraska, and now Wisconsin have insane hitters, but you didn't hear the whole "well trained monkeys could set this team to success" narrative about them
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