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Post by hornfanaustin on Dec 24, 2023 17:28:29 GMT -5
At another team's site, which I won't get into, there is a basketball/volleyball player who has the primary scholarship in basketball. This player has entered the transfer portal and one of the commentators said, "Well, she's got to play out the end of the year right? Or she's got to refund the school for her scholarship if she leaves now"
I was SO tempted to leave a comment, after I finished laughing. But, my better angels said to shut my trap and mock them on our own thread.
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Post by stevehorn on Dec 24, 2023 17:31:02 GMT -5
Transfers don't sign a document that allows early discussion similar to the NLI. I'm going to assume the discussion rules for transfers are similar to those for walk-ons which I understand to be an offer of admission by the school and some type of formal acceptance of admission by the player. My understanding is that they typically fast track an application for admission by a prospective transfer before getting too far along in the discussion. Now I will hold open that the rules on discussing transfers are even looser than what I stated. Transfers don't sign a national letter of intent as student-athletes supposedly only sign one of those in their careers. I believe transfers sign an Athletic Scholarship Agreement (ASA). Found this from 2023 for a women's hoops transfer: Tionna Herron has signed an Athletic Scholarship Agreement (ASA) to play basketball next season at The University of Texas, head coach Vic Schaefer announced on Wednesday.texassports.com/news/2023/5/17/womens-basketball-womens-basketball-signs-tionna-herron.aspxA scholarship transfer would sign a scholarship agreement. However the ASA doesn't commit the athlete to the school, but commits the school to provide a scholarship if the athlete attends the school. I'm pretty sure a recruit or transfer could sign an ASA with multiple schools. My understanding is that a prospective athlete must make some type of formal commitment to attend the school (NLI for freshmen recruits, similar document to NLI for JUCOs, and others forms of formal commitment by the rest) to allow the school to publicly discuss the athlete. Now perhaps ASA is enough to discuss scholarship transfers as I've seen numerous announcements by transfers saying they "signed" with the school.
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Post by stevehorn on Dec 24, 2023 17:34:00 GMT -5
At another team's site, which I won't get into, there is a basketball/volleyball player who has the primary scholarship in basketball. This player has entered the transfer portal and one of the commentators said, "Well, she's got to play out the end of the year right? Or she's got to refund the school for her scholarship if she leaves now"
I was SO tempted to leave a comment, after I finished laughing. But, my better angels said to shut my trap and mock them on our own thread.
I saw the same post and was almost tempted to post something myself. Must have been the same angel that also stopped me.
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Post by hornshouse23 on Dec 24, 2023 17:40:36 GMT -5
Now just hoping that being in Austin can fix any terf tendencies Whit might have lol I’m willing to give second chances, if so. Let’s hope.
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Post by hornshouse23 on Dec 24, 2023 17:43:54 GMT -5
"Player of the year: Henley Anderson, Dripping SpringsAnderson was our 2022 co-player of the year as a freshman, and the sophomore won it outright this season after recording 717 kills, averaging 4.8 per set, to lead Dripping Springs to the Class 6A regional finals. Playing a difficult schedule and drawing double and triple blocks, Anderson was still phenomenal. She also had 51 blocks, 395 digs and 60 aces. Also considered — Westlake's Lily Davis, Lake Travis' Avery Hamlin and Wimberley's Laney Hennessee." First Team:Libero: Reese Emerick, sr., Westlake: The Texas signee was 26-6A's defensive MVP with 675 digs (an average of 5.0 per set) and 53 aces. Outside hitter: Lily Davis, jr., Westlake: The 26-6A MVP had 634 kills, 535 digs and 62 aces for the Chaparrals. The six-rotation player is committed to Texas for beach volleyball. Outside hitter: Henley Anderson, soph., Dripping Springs: Our two-time Austin-area player of the year led the Tigers with 717 kills and 395 digs as they reached the Region IV-6A finals. she was player of the year freshman and sophomore year?
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Post by hornshouse23 on Dec 24, 2023 17:46:54 GMT -5
At another team's site, which I won't get into, there is a basketball/volleyball player who has the primary scholarship in basketball. This player has entered the transfer portal and one of the commentators said, "Well, she's got to play out the end of the year right? Or she's got to refund the school for her scholarship if she leaves now"
I was SO tempted to leave a comment, after I finished laughing. But, my better angels said to shut my trap and mock them on our own thread.
I saw the same post and was almost tempted to post something myself. Must have been the same angel that also stopped me. Not y’all’s angel’s working overtime. And on Christmas too
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Dec 24, 2023 18:16:22 GMT -5
At another team's site, which I won't get into, there is a basketball/volleyball player who has the primary scholarship in basketball. This player has entered the transfer portal and one of the commentators said, "Well, she's got to play out the end of the year right? Or she's got to refund the school for her scholarship if she leaves now"
I was SO tempted to leave a comment, after I finished laughing. But, my better angels said to shut my trap and mock them on our own thread.
That's a super interesting situation to watch, because her leaving means that team only has 2 MBs on the roster, and because she was on Bball scholarship there is no scholarship available to find a replacement MB
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Post by uofaGRAD on Dec 24, 2023 18:21:23 GMT -5
At another team's site, which I won't get into, there is a basketball/volleyball player who has the primary scholarship in basketball. This player has entered the transfer portal and one of the commentators said, "Well, she's got to play out the end of the year right? Or she's got to refund the school for her scholarship if she leaves now"
I was SO tempted to leave a comment, after I finished laughing. But, my better angels said to shut my trap and mock them on our own thread.
That's a super interesting situation to watch, because her leaving means that team only has 2 MBs on the roster, and because she was on Bball scholarship there is no scholarship available to find a replacement MB how much you wanna bet Ally B is booted to open up a schollie lol
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Post by widdledumpling on Dec 24, 2023 18:52:16 GMT -5
That's a super interesting situation to watch, because her leaving means that team only has 2 MBs on the roster, and because she was on Bball scholarship there is no scholarship available to find a replacement MB how much you wanna bet Ally B is booted to open up a schollie lol I think they’ll have a few open since CJ and little Kubik are also leaving
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Post by katn on Dec 24, 2023 18:57:05 GMT -5
"Player of the year: Henley Anderson, Dripping SpringsAnderson was our 2022 co-player of the year as a freshman, and the sophomore won it outright this season after recording 717 kills, averaging 4.8 per set, to lead Dripping Springs to the Class 6A regional finals. Playing a difficult schedule and drawing double and triple blocks, Anderson was still phenomenal. She also had 51 blocks, 395 digs and 60 aces. Also considered — Westlake's Lily Davis, Lake Travis' Avery Hamlin and Wimberley's Laney Hennessee." First Team:Libero: Reese Emerick, sr., Westlake: The Texas signee was 26-6A's defensive MVP with 675 digs (an average of 5.0 per set) and 53 aces. Outside hitter: Lily Davis, jr., Westlake: The 26-6A MVP had 634 kills, 535 digs and 62 aces for the Chaparrals. The six-rotation player is committed to Texas for beach volleyball. Outside hitter: Henley Anderson, soph., Dripping Springs: Our two-time Austin-area player of the year led the Tigers with 717 kills and 395 digs as they reached the Region IV-6A finals. she was player of the year freshman and sophomore year? she's scary good; i believe she's considering texas, baylor & nebraska (one of these things is not like the others)...i wonder if she commits to baylor...its just a feeling i had when reading a couple of articles on her...who knows
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Post by uofaGRAD on Dec 24, 2023 18:58:04 GMT -5
how much you wanna bet Ally B is booted to open up a schollie lol I think they’ll have a few open since CJ and little Kubik are also leaving no one graduated and they added two freshmen. granted Mauch might not be on scholarship. they have MAX one right now, not counting any NIL ofc
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Post by stevehorn on Dec 24, 2023 18:58:13 GMT -5
how much you wanna bet Ally B is booted to open up a schollie lol I think they’ll have a few open since CJ and little Kubik are also leaving I think they have at least good freshmen coming in that they already needed ships to cover.
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Post by jwvolley on Dec 24, 2023 19:01:50 GMT -5
I think they’ll have a few open since CJ and little Kubik are also leaving I think they have at least good freshmen coming in that they already needed ships to cover. It's a two person class and Olivia Mauch's accepted offer did not include starting out on scholarship.
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Post by horns1 on Dec 24, 2023 19:08:51 GMT -5
Transfers don't sign a national letter of intent as student-athletes supposedly only sign one of those in their careers. I believe transfers sign an Athletic Scholarship Agreement (ASA). Found this from 2023 for a women's hoops transfer: Tionna Herron has signed an Athletic Scholarship Agreement (ASA) to play basketball next season at The University of Texas, head coach Vic Schaefer announced on Wednesday.texassports.com/news/2023/5/17/womens-basketball-womens-basketball-signs-tionna-herron.aspxA scholarship transfer would sign a scholarship agreement. However the ASA doesn't commit the athlete to the school, but commits the school to provide a scholarship if the athlete attends the school. I'm pretty sure a recruit or transfer could sign an ASA with multiple schools. My understanding is that a prospective athlete must make some type of formal commitment to attend the school (NLI for freshmen recruits, similar document to NLI for JUCOs, and others forms of formal commitment by the rest) to allow the school to publicly discuss the athlete. Now perhaps ASA is enough to discuss scholarship transfers as I've seen numerous announcements by transfers saying they "signed" with the school. Biggest difference between LOI and the ASA is that the LOI is binding for both parties. Like you stated, ASA only binds the school, not the player (or is that only for grad-transfers)? It happened to our women's hoops program back in November 2019 when grad-transfer Katie Benzan from Harvard signed an ASA and was set to play at Texas for the 2020-21 season; but, after a coaching transition from Aston to Schaefer in Spring 2020, she decided she wanted to attend Maryland; no "release" from that ASA was needed. Kim Mulkey faced a similar scenario when West Virgina transfer, Esmery Martinez signed an ASA with LSU, but weeks later signed an ASA with Arizona where she ended up enrolling. Thought I read a few years ago that the ASA was only non-binding (to the school) as it applied to grad-transfers; can't recall if the same or something different for undergrads; doesn't seem like we read a lot about transfers (in all sports) backing out once the school officially announces the signing of the ASA.
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Post by stevehorn on Dec 24, 2023 19:09:40 GMT -5
I think they’ll have a few open since CJ and little Kubik are also leaving no one graduated and they added two freshmen. granted Mauch might not be on scholarship. they have MAX one right now, not counting any NIL ofc They also had Ames committed until November so the original need was more. That does make me wonder if they at least floated the idea of Ames playing her first year without a ship and that caused the unexpected decommitment.
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