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Post by eyeroll2021 on Jan 20, 2024 15:50:27 GMT -5
There's no universe in which Rella is on scholarship but Madi isn't. But you’re still thinking of scholarships in terms of it being allotted to the “worthy” players. If Texas, post NIL, has developed a program that convinces the best in state talent that they can be more than taken care of while foregoing their scholarship, I can see that being a great sense of pride that the in state players would have going and playing for UT. No - I'm thinking of scholarships based on opportunity cost and what other options a player has. What do you need to offer a player so that they don't seek greener pastures and what do you lose skills wise of they do. I think it's highly unlikely that you are able to get a transfer the quality of Madi Skinner with three years of eligibility left on the promise of NIL alone. Especially when she has valid scholarships offers to multiple schools. Rella, on the other hand, is far more likely to agree to walk-on with NIL alone given her lack of national ranking, the prestige of the program and what her other prospects were
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Post by babybacksets on Jan 20, 2024 15:59:18 GMT -5
Key word is “almost certainly” but ok I could have written as "definitely" but that would be claiming to have specific knowledge which I don't. However my "almost certainly" are based on knowledge of the Texas program which exceeds yours. Ok so you don’t know for certain? Cool neither do I and that’s ok, not sure why everything needs to be a pissing contest with some posters. I’m literally just curious if the Texas program has cultivated this level of attractiveness to recruits where they could pull off a roster composition like this. There’s really not anything more to it than my own curiosity and being impressed if this was the case for even a portion of their bigger name in state recruits Sheesh lol
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Post by babybacksets on Jan 20, 2024 15:59:37 GMT -5
But you’re still thinking of scholarships in terms of it being allotted to the “worthy” players. If Texas, post NIL, has developed a program that convinces the best in state talent that they can be more than taken care of while foregoing their scholarship, I can see that being a great sense of pride that the in state players would have going and playing for UT. No - my analysis is based on opportunity cost and what other options a player has. I think it's highly unlikely that you are able to get a transfer the quality of Madi Skinner with three years of eligibility left on the promise of NIL alone. Especially when she has valid scholarships offers to multiple schools. Rella, on the other hand, is far more likely to agree to walk-on with NIL alone given the prestige of the program and what her other prospects were 👍🏾
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Post by stevehorn on Jan 20, 2024 16:24:01 GMT -5
I could have written as "definitely" but that would be claiming to have specific knowledge which I don't. However my "almost certainly" are based on knowledge of the Texas program which exceeds yours. Ok so you don’t know for certain? Cool neither do I and that’s ok, not sure why everything needs to be a pissing contest with some posters. I’m literally just curious if the Texas program has cultivated this level of attractiveness to recruits where they could pull off a roster composition like this. There’s really not anything more to it than my own curiosity and being impressed if this was the case for even a portion of their bigger name in state recruits Sheesh lol If we had reached that level of attractiveness with in-state recruits, I don't believe our 2023 class of five would have been all out of state. There is no evidence that top-rated recruits are picking Texas and agreeing to be non-scholarship players. Even in football, recruits or transfers that supposedly are getting 6 figure and even 7 figure NIL deals are still receiving scholarships. If you want to look in a place for non-scholarship players, I suggest look at fifth year players that are planning just to attend in the fall and therefore would be giving up a ship for one semester and could easily be made up by extra NIL money.
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Post by stanfordvb on Jan 20, 2024 16:27:50 GMT -5
Ok so you don’t know for certain? Cool neither do I and that’s ok, not sure why everything needs to be a pissing contest with some posters. I’m literally just curious if the Texas program has cultivated this level of attractiveness to recruits where they could pull off a roster composition like this. There’s really not anything more to it than my own curiosity and being impressed if this was the case for even a portion of their bigger name in state recruits Sheesh lol If you want to look in a place for non-scholarship players, I suggest look at fifth year players that are planning just to attend in the fall and therefore would be giving up a ship for one semester and could easily be made up by extra NIL money. I was gonna say this... it's very possible skinner / rutherford / wenaas aren't on scholarship for the fall semester unless someone knows for a fact they are
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Post by stevehorn on Jan 20, 2024 16:34:17 GMT -5
If you want to look in a place for non-scholarship players, I suggest look at fifth year players that are planning just to attend in the fall and therefore would be giving up a ship for one semester and could easily be made up by extra NIL money. I was gonna say this... it's very possible skinner / rutherford / wenaas aren't on scholarship for the fall semester unless someone knows for a fact they are This would be my guess also. Of course right now we don't know the exact numbers because there still could be transfers out in the spring.
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Post by hookem24 on Jan 20, 2024 17:47:42 GMT -5
I don’t think Tomkinson is on scholarship. I believe Carlson will be on scholarship in the fall. That’d be insane if Tomkinson wasn’t on scholarship, she could have played at several schools on the West Coast and not paid out of state tuition only to likely never touch the court. The Texas program is incredible but not bankrupt your parents incredible. More than likely an in state player on the roster isn’t on scholarship. From what I know, I don’t think she is!
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Post by horns1 on Jan 20, 2024 18:12:47 GMT -5
Not to be that person but does it matter who’s on scholarship? I’m pretty sure EVERYONE on the team is getting the money they deserve! The way you phrase the question, it does not matter who is on scholarship. What matters is having an available scholarship for those recruits/transfers to whom that's important. I recall after Laney Choboy visited Texas and Nebraska after having decommitted from Minnesota, one of the statements made on here by someone (reliable) was that Texas did not have a scholarship to offer her, but Nebraska did. Not saying that made the ultimate difference in her decision, but that (plus also receiving NIL) could have tilted things in NU's favor. For all we know, something similar happened with Leyla Blackwell (not that we ever confirmed she visited Texas); just using that as a transfer example where not having an available scholarship could have an impact (especially on someone from out of state).
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Post by stevehorn on Jan 20, 2024 19:09:44 GMT -5
That’d be insane if Tomkinson wasn’t on scholarship, she could have played at several schools on the West Coast and not paid out of state tuition only to likely never touch the court. The Texas program is incredible but not bankrupt your parents incredible. More than likely an in state player on the roster isn’t on scholarship. From what I know, I don’t think she is! Tomkinson was announced on NLI signing day along with the rest of the 2023 class. Typically non-scholarship players haven't been approved by the admissions office at that time thus not allowing an announcement at that time. Might have been you, but have seen some posts on here where people didn't think she was on scholarship. Some info about her does make me think there is some possibility of this. IIRC she was ranked around #50 nationally which is very good, but lower than our typical front row recruit (usually at least top 25). However it would seem to be an unusual choice by her since I would think she had ship offers to some good programs and also is from California. Haven't seen anything that indicates a family tie to Texas that would perhaps explain a willingness to walk-on. Also as I said, the announcement is typical of a scholarship recruit and not a walk-on.
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Post by sunsuphornsup on Jan 20, 2024 20:25:26 GMT -5
From what I know, I don’t think she is! Tomkinson was announced on NLI signing day along with the rest of the 2023 class. Typically non-scholarship players haven't been approved by the admissions office at that time thus not allowing an announcement at that time. Might have been you, but have seen some posts on here where people didn't think she was on scholarship. Some info about her does make me think there is some possibility of this. IIRC she was ranked around #50 nationally which is very good, but lower than our typical front row recruit (usually at least top 25). However it would seem to be an unusual choice by her since I would think she had ship offers to some good programs and also is from California. Haven't seen anything that indicates a family tie to Texas that would perhaps explain a willingness to walk-on. Also as I said, the announcement is typical of a scholarship recruit and not a walk-on. Her club coach is/was? Chloe Collins. That’s the only Texas connection I can think of.
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Jan 20, 2024 21:29:35 GMT -5
Tomkinson was announced on NLI signing day along with the rest of the 2023 class. Typically non-scholarship players haven't been approved by the admissions office at that time thus not allowing an announcement at that time. Might have been you, but have seen some posts on here where people didn't think she was on scholarship. Some info about her does make me think there is some possibility of this. IIRC she was ranked around #50 nationally which is very good, but lower than our typical front row recruit (usually at least top 25). However it would seem to be an unusual choice by her since I would think she had ship offers to some good programs and also is from California. Haven't seen anything that indicates a family tie to Texas that would perhaps explain a willingness to walk-on. Also as I said, the announcement is typical of a scholarship recruit and not a walk-on. Her club coach is/was? Chloe Collins. That’s the only Texas connection I can think of. 6'5" lefty OPP - those are hard to come by. JE might have made a bet on a high potential ceiling there
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Post by horns1 on Jan 20, 2024 22:28:23 GMT -5
Krueger
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Post by hookem1 on Jan 21, 2024 0:14:17 GMT -5
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Post by g4lvolley on Jan 21, 2024 15:25:39 GMT -5
Macaria Spears looks amazing. Her team won the tournament in Austin. I bet the coaching staff was proud. It sucks because she doesn’t get set that much. Her team has so many weapons.
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Post by hookem1 on Jan 21, 2024 15:34:10 GMT -5
Macaria Spears looks amazing. Her team won the tournament in Austin. I bet the coaching staff was proud. It sucks because she doesn’t get set that much. Her team has so many weapons. . She’s keeping that arm fresh for college!
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