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Post by slxpress on Jun 11, 2024 14:31:57 GMT -5
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 11, 2024 14:37:20 GMT -5
Kaitlyn Nguyen is unranked? What does that even mean? What is VB Adrenaline anyway? Nguyen has been a top prospect in Washington and part of the USAV youth development pipeline for years. Ever since the demise of prepvolleyball.com, we've seen a number of organizations trying to cash in on the increased exposure of prep volleyball and claim to be in the know about recruiting, but they lose credibility when they say stuff like this. |
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Post by slxpress on Jun 11, 2024 14:47:55 GMT -5
Kaitlyn Nguyen is unranked? What does that even mean? What is VB Adrenaline anyway? Nguyen has been a top prospect in Washington and part of the USAV youth development pipeline for years. Ever since the demise of prepvolleyball.com, we've seen a number of organizations trying to cash in on the increased exposure of prep volleyball and claim to be in the know about recruiting, but they lose credibility when they say stuff like this. My observation is that covering volleyball recruiting is still an emerging market - in the sense that I feel like it will be a larger market as the years go by. Apparently the numbers aren't there to justify an objective service that delivers subjective, yet honest feedback to the general volleyball fan base as to who it thinks the best players are. So there's a tendency to puff up revenue by selling those rankings to players - more specifically to parents and clubs. The volleyball ranking industry seems to be rife with this. That said, I still notice that programs like UT and Nebraska have the highest ranked recruiting classes, and lo and behold, their teams tend to be more talented on the court. The devil is in the details. It's one thing to be wrong on players. Everyone gets talent evaluations wrong. I mean EVERYBODY. The NFL draft gets talent evaluations wrong. What appears to be happening to me is that some of these services are purposefully wrong for the sake of greater income. Hard to switch that around without a new actor coming in that operates with some level of integrity and is rewarded for it. |
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Post by austinhorn21 on Jun 11, 2024 14:53:55 GMT -5
Kaitlyn Nguyen is unranked? What does that even mean? What is VB Adrenaline anyway? Nguyen has been a top prospect in Washington and part of the USAV youth development pipeline for years. Ever since the demise of prepvolleyball.com, we've seen a number of organizations trying to cash in on the increased exposure of prep volleyball and claim to be in the know about recruiting, but they lose credibility when they say stuff like this. VB adrenaline is a big fan of Kaitlyn. Other recruiting services don’t have her ranked which is crazy. If Texas wants you I would imagine you are a great player. Heard she had a good camp and wish her the best of luck on 6/15. |
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Post by hookem1 on Jun 11, 2024 14:54:44 GMT -5
Kaitlyn Nguyen is unranked? What does that even mean? What is VB Adrenaline anyway? Nguyen has been a top prospect in Washington and part of the USAV youth development pipeline for years. Ever since the demise of prepvolleyball.com, we've seen a number of organizations trying to cash in on the increased exposure of prep volleyball and claim to be in the know about recruiting, but they lose credibility when they say stuff like this. I also don’t know what they mean by unranked lol maybe they have their own internal rankings who knows. Just was happy she was doing well at the Texas camp. I love seeing players play both indoor and beach in college so I hope she goes somewhere where that’s a possibility even if it’s not Texas |
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Post by haterade on Jun 11, 2024 14:57:41 GMT -5
Kaitlyn Nguyen is unranked? What does that even mean? What is VB Adrenaline anyway? Nguyen has been a top prospect in Washington and part of the USAV youth development pipeline for years. Ever since the demise of prepvolleyball.com, we've seen a number of organizations trying to cash in on the increased exposure of prep volleyball and claim to be in the know about recruiting, but they lose credibility when they say stuff like this. My observation is that covering volleyball recruiting is still an emerging market - in the sense that I feel like it will be a larger market as the years go by. Apparently the numbers aren't there to justify an objective service that delivers subjective, yet honest feedback to the general volleyball fan base as to who it thinks the best players are. So there's a tendency to puff up revenue by selling those rankings to players - more specifically to parents and clubs. The volleyball ranking industry seems to be rife with this. That said, I still notice that programs like UT and Nebraska have the highest ranked recruiting classes, and lo and behold, their teams tend to be more talented on the court. The devil is in the details. It's one thing to be wrong on players. Everyone gets talent evaluations wrong. I mean EVERYBODY. The NFL draft gets talent evaluations wrong. What appears to be happening to me is that some of these services are purposefully wrong for the sake of greater income. Hard to switch that around without a new actor coming in that operates with some level of integrity and is rewarded for it. Same goes for the recruiting services that promise to get attention and offers based on social media... a friends' kid is a 2026 with "16k" IG followers that are all fake. I don't know how this company convinced them coaches don't see through this. I've seen a few pieces of the VB Adrenaline side and the only thing interesting was an interview with Dan Meske from Louisville on recruiting and June 15th. The host couldn't help but show some shade here and there. I haven't found reason to take much stock in anything they say. |
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Post by mln59 on Jun 11, 2024 15:02:20 GMT -5
i hope the universe punished them appropriately for such outrageous behavior |
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 11, 2024 15:04:28 GMT -5
Kaitlyn Nguyen is unranked? What does that even mean? What is VB Adrenaline anyway? Nguyen has been a top prospect in Washington and part of the USAV youth development pipeline for years. Ever since the demise of prepvolleyball.com, we've seen a number of organizations trying to cash in on the increased exposure of prep volleyball and claim to be in the know about recruiting, but they lose credibility when they say stuff like this. My observation is that covering volleyball recruiting is still an emerging market - in the sense that I feel like it will be a larger market as the years go by. Apparently the numbers aren't there to justify an objective service that delivers subjective, yet honest feedback to the general volleyball fan base as to who it thinks the best players are. So there's a tendency to puff up revenue by selling those rankings to players - more specifically to parents and clubs. The volleyball ranking industry seems to be rife with this. That said, I still notice that programs like UT and Nebraska have the highest ranked recruiting classes, and lo and behold, their teams tend to be more talented on the court. The devil is in the details. It's one thing to be wrong on players. Everyone gets talent evaluations wrong. I mean EVERYBODY. The NFL draft gets talent evaluations wrong. What appears to be happening to me is that some of these services are purposefully wrong for the sake of greater income. Hard to switch that around without a new actor coming in that operates with some level of integrity and is rewarded for it. I don't disagree with you in general, but my comments about these "recruiting agencies" are a bit more specific. Sometimes it seems that these organizations are barely even trying. When I see the post about Nguyen, it's as if they didn't even bother to do any research about her prior play. It comes off as if she's some under the radar player, and that's simply not true. In the larger scheme of prep recruiting, at the end of the day we all know that the recruits going to Texas and Nebraska are very good players. Those programs are signing players who show between 14-16U that they are among the very best in the class, both physically and/or technically, and either show a strong fundamental of the game relative to their peers or an exceptionally high ceiling. It's not a secret, and given the large fan bases of those programs here on volleytalk, the constant echo chamber of these select players is not surprising. It also doesn't surprise me when most (if not all) of these players end up very high on these rankings lists. What bothers me is when these prep recruiting agencies start talking about the 99.5% of other players. Like, just do a little homework... it's really not that difficult, especially if this is your job. |
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Post by VBallLife on Jun 11, 2024 15:43:48 GMT -5
Kaitlyn Nguyen is unranked? What does that even mean? What is VB Adrenaline anyway? Nguyen has been a top prospect in Washington and part of the USAV youth development pipeline for years. Ever since the demise of prepvolleyball.com, we've seen a number of organizations trying to cash in on the increased exposure of prep volleyball and claim to be in the know about recruiting, but they lose credibility when they say stuff like this. My observation is that covering volleyball recruiting is still an emerging market - in the sense that I feel like it will be a larger market as the years go by. Apparently the numbers aren't there to justify an objective service that delivers subjective, yet honest feedback to the general volleyball fan base as to who it thinks the best players are. So there's a tendency to puff up revenue by selling those rankings to players - more specifically to parents and clubs. The volleyball ranking industry seems to be rife with this. That said, I still notice that programs like UT and Nebraska have the highest ranked recruiting classes, and lo and behold, their teams tend to be more talented on the court. The devil is in the details. It's one thing to be wrong on players. Everyone gets talent evaluations wrong. I mean EVERYBODY. The NFL draft gets talent evaluations wrong. What appears to be happening to me is that some of these services are purposefully wrong for the sake of greater income. Hard to switch that around without a new actor coming in that operates with some level of integrity and is rewarded for it. Nebraska had a class a few years back highly rated and didn’t pan out on the court. |
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Post by slxpress on Jun 11, 2024 15:58:28 GMT -5
My observation is that covering volleyball recruiting is still an emerging market - in the sense that I feel like it will be a larger market as the years go by. Apparently the numbers aren't there to justify an objective service that delivers subjective, yet honest feedback to the general volleyball fan base as to who it thinks the best players are. So there's a tendency to puff up revenue by selling those rankings to players - more specifically to parents and clubs. The volleyball ranking industry seems to be rife with this. That said, I still notice that programs like UT and Nebraska have the highest ranked recruiting classes, and lo and behold, their teams tend to be more talented on the court. The devil is in the details. It's one thing to be wrong on players. Everyone gets talent evaluations wrong. I mean EVERYBODY. The NFL draft gets talent evaluations wrong. What appears to be happening to me is that some of these services are purposefully wrong for the sake of greater income. Hard to switch that around without a new actor coming in that operates with some level of integrity and is rewarded for it. Nebraska had a class a few years back highly rated and didn’t pan out on the court. I think if we go through season by season results we'll see that the results of the Nebraska program have been pretty remarkable overall compared to their peers. "Everyone gets talent evaluations wrong. I mean EVERYBODY." If we want to point out specific players who don't fit their ranking, or a program's class that didn't pan out the way it was forecasted, we'll see problems all over the place. If we're expecting perfection, we're not going to find it. What AY is pointing out is an example of what appears to be flat out laziness and incompetence, to put it bluntly. Maybe even some hyperbole as a marketing ploy. What I am talking about is the practice of giving higher rankings in exchange for money. |
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Post by gazelle1 on Jun 11, 2024 16:00:35 GMT -5
My observation is that covering volleyball recruiting is still an emerging market - in the sense that I feel like it will be a larger market as the years go by. Apparently the numbers aren't there to justify an objective service that delivers subjective, yet honest feedback to the general volleyball fan base as to who it thinks the best players are. So there's a tendency to puff up revenue by selling those rankings to players - more specifically to parents and clubs. The volleyball ranking industry seems to be rife with this. That said, I still notice that programs like UT and Nebraska have the highest ranked recruiting classes, and lo and behold, their teams tend to be more talented on the court. The devil is in the details. It's one thing to be wrong on players. Everyone gets talent evaluations wrong. I mean EVERYBODY. The NFL draft gets talent evaluations wrong. What appears to be happening to me is that some of these services are purposefully wrong for the sake of greater income. Hard to switch that around without a new actor coming in that operates with some level of integrity and is rewarded for it. Nebraska had a class a few years back highly rated and didn’t pan out on the court. That class has played in two national championship games. How is that "not panning out"? |
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Post by slxpress on Jun 11, 2024 16:02:13 GMT -5
Nebraska had a class a few years back highly rated and didn’t pan out on the court. That class has played in two national championship games. How is that "not panning out"? They didn't win? I dunno. Tough crowd. |
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Post by VBallLife on Jun 11, 2024 16:31:53 GMT -5
Nebraska had a class a few years back highly rated and didn’t pan out on the court. I think if we go through season by season results we'll see that the results of the Nebraska program have been pretty remarkable overall compared to their peers. "Everyone gets talent evaluations wrong. I mean EVERYBODY." If we want to point out specific players who don't fit their ranking, or a program's class that didn't pan out the way it was forecasted, we'll see problems all over the place. If we're expecting perfection, we're not going to find it. What AY is pointing out is an example of what appears to be flat out laziness and incompetence, to put it bluntly. Maybe even some hyperbole as a marketing ploy. What I am talking about is the practice of giving higher rankings in exchange for money. I agree many of the publications are lazy . And I didn’t drill down or say what specific players that didn’t play up to their ranking. Nebraska has done a great job of maintaining their program as a contender and don’t have the ebbs and flows as other programs when they lose seniors or transfers. |
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Post by hookem1 on Jun 11, 2024 18:22:02 GMT -5
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Post by texashorns on Jun 12, 2024 17:17:44 GMT -5
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