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Post by Courtside5 on Dec 13, 2019 23:44:43 GMT -5
Riley has a natural arm swing which is really nice to see. She just needs to be more efficient and work on tooling the block. AKA BVS & Ross this past season. Riley’s future after UH may be the beach, she looks like a natural. Hall’s freshman class is insane, just like the UH men freshmen. Things are looking up for all three programs. Maybe a season of beach will be beneficial for Riley and help her to improve her indoor game.
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 13, 2019 23:59:20 GMT -5
With the exception of Hanna Hellvig, I do not believe Robyn will want any of the other Freshmen to miss their 1st Spring season. There is still a lot for these freshmen to learn, and get better at.
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Post by practicesafesets on Dec 14, 2019 0:18:38 GMT -5
With the exception of Hanna Hellvig, I do not believe Robyn will want any of the other Freshmen to miss their 1st Spring season. There is still a lot for these freshmen to learn, and get better at. 6 Kills on .136 hitting vs Nebraska isn't a lot to get better at? To be fair though, Hellvig's numbers were similar to Husker frosh Madi Kubik
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Post by whoooaneli on Dec 14, 2019 0:37:04 GMT -5
What would the Wahine need to do next season to end up being a Top 4 seed? Will Robyn need to bring in teams from the B1G, PAC12, and SEC, for their 3 pre-conference tournaments. The Wahine will not get a top four seed. Even if they had a number one OOC sos, the big west will tear them down. It would take the wahine going undefeated throughout the season and their pre conference being other wordly good for it to happen. Would it ever be possible for Hawaii to join a stronger conference or is that inconvenient and too cost-effective?
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Post by After Dawn on Dec 14, 2019 4:24:19 GMT -5
So what exactly are we going to talk about without these crazy ideas. JS
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Post by wintergreen on Dec 14, 2019 4:34:42 GMT -5
This freshmen core just gets stronger with every year. I’m excited to see Anna in the middle. I just have a hunch she can give all the middles a run for their money.
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Post by staticb on Dec 14, 2019 11:59:12 GMT -5
The Wahine will not get a top four seed. Even if they had a number one OOC sos, the big west will tear them down. It would take the wahine going undefeated throughout the season and their pre conference being other wordly good for it to happen. Would it ever be possible for Hawaii to join a stronger conference or is that inconvenient and too cost-effective? There isn’t one that wants us. I actually think that the Big West’s SoS this year would have been enough for a top 4 seed if we finished undefeated. But next year they are watering down the conference with the new adds so we’ll see.
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 14, 2019 13:05:32 GMT -5
The Wahine will not get a top four seed. Even if they had a number one OOC sos, the big west will tear them down. It would take the wahine going undefeated throughout the season and their pre conference being other wordly good for it to happen. Would it ever be possible for Hawaii to join a stronger conference or is that inconvenient and too cost-effective? The BWC is the best mid-major conference that Hawaii can belong to. If Hawaii wants to join a Power 5 conference, like the PAC 12, they will have to upgrade their Athletic Facilities tremendously. Not to mention all their Athletic programs. Meaning, all their other athletic programs have to be invited to the NCAA tournament, in their respective sport, on a regular basis. I just do not see that occurring in the very near future. That would be the only way UH would be attractive enough for a Power 5 conference to even look at UH. Also, a 20K-25K seat stadium would not cut it either.
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 14, 2019 13:09:51 GMT -5
Right now, Robyn has to be smart in what kinds of teams she invites to participate in the 3 pre-conference tournaments, like she did this past year. So that the Wahine have a chance of remaining in the TOP 10 RPI ranking. Also, hopefully the other BWC Conference teams up their talent level, and scheduling.
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Post by Wolfgang on Dec 14, 2019 13:15:45 GMT -5
Would it ever be possible for Hawaii to join a stronger conference or is that inconvenient and too cost-effective? The BWC is the best mid-major conference that Hawaii can belong to. If Hawaii wants to join a Power 5 conference, like the PAC 12, they will have to upgrade their Athletic Facilities tremendously. Not to mention all their Athletic programs. Meaning, all their other athletic programs have to be invited to the NCAA tournament, in their respective sport, on a regular basis. I just do not see that occurring in the very near future. That would be the only way UH would be attractive enough for a Power 5 conference to even look at UH. Also, a 20K-25K seat stadium would not cut it either. Aloha Stadium is 50,000 capacity, not 20K-25K.
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 14, 2019 13:58:51 GMT -5
The BWC is the best mid-major conference that Hawaii can belong to. If Hawaii wants to join a Power 5 conference, like the PAC 12, they will have to upgrade their Athletic Facilities tremendously. Not to mention all their Athletic programs. Meaning, all their other athletic programs have to be invited to the NCAA tournament, in their respective sport, on a regular basis. I just do not see that occurring in the very near future. That would be the only way UH would be attractive enough for a Power 5 conference to even look at UH. Also, a 20K-25K seat stadium would not cut it either. Aloha Stadium is 50,000 capacity, not 20K-25K. Wolfgang, I know that. Was talking about the stadium they are looking to build.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 14:33:26 GMT -5
Would it ever be possible for Hawaii to join a stronger conference or is that inconvenient and too cost-effective? There isn’t one that wants us. I actually think that the Big West’s SoS this year would have been enough for a top 4 seed if we finished undefeated. But next year they are watering down the conference with the new adds so we’ll see. This is going to hurt UH, Poly, UCSB & LBSU. Of course it's more money for the BW but it just widens the gap between the conference and those above it. Oh well, at least it means a few more wins for CSUF, right? Maybe they'll get COY on their own next year!!
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Post by hwnstunner on Dec 14, 2019 15:43:46 GMT -5
I think UCSD has way more upside at theI level then CSUB. It'll obviously take time, but UCSD has potential benefit the BWC across the board if they can improve their facilities. Recruiting to San Diego shouldn't be hard for sports that BWC fields like volleyball (men's, women's, beach), softball, baseball, soccer (men's, women's), and water polo (men's, women's). Not sure what they field as a program, but the DI move should give them options/ But what the heck does CSUB add??? I dunno if it was one UC school for one Cal State school that the commissioners were reasoning with, but now we have another UC Riverside coming in...
But I agree, these two school are gonna hurt the BWC and the top schools in it looking to keep its RPI up. HOWEVER, that could be balanced out if Hawaii, Cal Poly, and UCSB maintain their level of play and schools like LBSU and UCD rise up. I also think UCI could bounce back next year. CSUN - meh. But collectively, if everyone can improve, we'll be OK as a conference...
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Post by baytree on Dec 14, 2019 16:04:54 GMT -5
What would the Wahine need to do next season to end up being a Top 4 seed? Will Robyn need to bring in teams from the B1G, PAC12, and SEC, for their 3 pre-conference tournaments. If the Committee follows the same reasoning as it did with Pittsburgh this season, Hawaii would need to play at least a couple of Top 10 teams. Outside the obvious candidates (who are probably booked for next season and may not want to play Hawaii anyway bc they need to play Top 10 teams - preferably higher - too), it's tough to predict which teams will be Top 10 so that's partially luck. They'd also need to go mostly undefeated and not lose except to Top 10 teams (or maybe a Top 20 team but no losses to teams like Irvine or Cal Poly).
I think they have a good shot at getting a seed but would have to be very lucky (and extremely good) to host a regional.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 16:05:34 GMT -5
I think UCSD has way more upside at theI level then CSUB. It'll obviously take time, but UCSD has potential benefit the BWC across the board if they can improve their facilities. Recruiting to San Diego shouldn't be hard for sports that BWC fields like volleyball (men's, women's, beach), softball, baseball, soccer (men's, women's), and water polo (men's, women's). Not sure what they field as a program, but the DI move should give them options/ But what the heck does CSUB add??? I dunno if it was one UC school for one Cal State school that the commissioners were reasoning with, but now we have another UC Riverside coming in... But I agree, these two school are gonna hurt the BWC and the top schools in it looking to keep its RPI up. HOWEVER, that could be balanced out if Hawaii, Cal Poly, and UCSB maintain their level of play and schools like LBSU and UCD rise up. I also think UCI could bounce back next year. CSUN - meh. But collectively, if everyone can improve, we'll be OK as a conference... I don't disagree with your assessment at all, but it'll take time. We basically just added two more schools that'll be RPI >200 for the foreseeable on the heels of the best performance by the conference (collectively) in a decade. It's disheartening to anyone hoping to see 3 schools represent the BW next year. Oh and in regards to UH leaving... if they did it'd kill the conference. I'm not a wahine fan (though I've always had a great time in the Stan) but I'll be the first to acknowledge that Hawaii is the straw that stirs the BW drink.
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