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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2019 17:55:36 GMT -5
It is a fact that Stanford, for all its success even in that time period, had not won a national title in 12 years (because Nnamani was great in the tournament, like Plummer this year) until this group of seniors arrived. An epic PSU team played a role in that, but it had been a while. National titles are hard to win. That's funny; I was just thinking about Oganna and the 2004 squad. Now that was an outlier, for real. IIRC the team was a #15 seed. Paula Gentil's injury killed Minnesota! She was injured early in the third set, Minnesota was already down 2-0. Stanford was seeded 11th. |
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Dec 23, 2019 18:11:41 GMT -5
That's funny; I was just thinking about Oganna and the 2004 squad. Now that was an outlier, for real. IIRC the team was a #15 seed. Paula Gentil's injury killed Minnesota! She was injured early in the third set, Minnesota was already down 2-0. Stanford was seeded 11th. I am aware of when she was injured: it was a "dagger" for MINN. Was Also heart-wrenching to watch; she so wanted to return. The outlier was due to what their seed was. |
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Post by Disc808 on Dec 23, 2019 19:50:23 GMT -5
I rewatched the match for like the 3rd or 4th time lol, and man Stanford's defense was just stifling. They held Wisconsin to .152 and out blocked them 7-3 and out dug them 57-39. Pretty much all of Stanford's defenders had a lot of great touches, and the block slowed down a lot of balls from Wisconsin. It wasn't just Hentz. Stanford actually dug and blocked more balls than all of their tournament opponents. Let's just say Hentz-ville was more than just a population of 1  |
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Post by beachindoor on Dec 23, 2019 19:52:18 GMT -5
Do you think if KWJ substituted in for an OH for Wisconsin now it would have been any better for them?
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Post by Disc808 on Dec 23, 2019 19:54:22 GMT -5
Do you think if KWJ substituted in for an OH for Wisconsin now it would have been any better for them? Nah Hentz would've dug her  |
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Post by baytree on Dec 23, 2019 20:13:22 GMT -5
Do you think if KWJ substituted in for an OH for Wisconsin now it would have been any better for them? If she subbed in for Duello on the RS, yes. WI would have had more blocks if nothing else. Duello only had 1 block assist the whole match (+ 1 dig and 3 kills on 13 attempts). |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2019 20:46:19 GMT -5
That's funny; I was just thinking about Oganna and the 2004 squad. Now that was an outlier, for real. IIRC the team was a #15 seed. Paula Gentil's injury killed Minnesota! She was injured early in the third set, Minnesota was already down 2-0. Stanford was seeded 11th. Agree. And in the first two sets, Ogonna was frequently hitting it right at Paula, but with such force that Paula couldn't handle them. |
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Post by tnp101 on Dec 23, 2019 21:08:38 GMT -5
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Post by missunderstood on Dec 23, 2019 21:29:22 GMT -5
Looking back if Badgers or any of the other big ten teams Stanford beat played 10 times in a row, Stanford would still win. They were just unstoppable. Out of system meant nothing to them. I don't think there is much Badgers could have done differently. 62 other teams didn't make the final and 300+ teams didn't make the post season. What a ride! No.... Wisconsin was just THAT bad in this match. It was an embarrassing performance. Even Sunderland and karch said so. Stanford played another normal match. They play like this pretty often Utah almost beat Stanford last week. Wisconsin choked it up. Too many freeballs and there defense couldnt control their touches. Stanford didnt even flex WILL THIS DUDE JUST STFU bout busted ass Utah??!!?!? |
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Post by missunderstood on Dec 23, 2019 21:38:16 GMT -5
No. You still have to play and win the matches and the B1G record over the past decade is just untouchable. Your conspiracy theories are just that. Stop riding on the success of your co conference teams dude. Like mentioned earlier, some of the wins of those teams did not even belong to the B1G. WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH!?!? you're in Hawaii man... you win |
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Post by missunderstood on Dec 23, 2019 22:19:22 GMT -5
Playing devil's advocate...
Would Wisconsin not be as intimidated if Plummer (Stanford) was not playing out of her mind -- scoring at will, hitting .800 in out of system, and hoping to add a few zeros to her signing bonus/contract while impressing agents in the crowd? What if she hit a few out, got blocked or Wisky simply converted some of those out of system plays? Would that of made a significant difference and a more competitive match?
Or did Loberg and Duello being no shows this past weekend contribute greatly to flow of match and gave the Gophers (hehe) no chance?
I thought the passing and defense was ineffective for Wisconsin, even if they won the 'serve and pass" game?! did that make a difference?
or simply was the Stanford dynasty just destined to complete this season on top, as the best (my opinion) to ever play for Stanford, even possibly NCAA history. Yes, including the four-year run by Penn State.
If Sheffield had prior playing experience (does it matter?), would he be able to recognize other intangibles he could implement into his systems and during a match? Possibly even a wrinkle or two to his offense?
- Why would you run slides at Plummer?
- Why not put Duello at OH and let Syndey hit? *(oh that's right, you didn't practice such scenarios against Rutgers, Maryland etc.)
- Why not figure another hit location for Duello, other than the "surprise X play" that everyone in the country knows about?
- Why not Haggerty attacking out of back row? a Bic? or hitting 3-2 balls in front row??
- Why have your middles run 3-1 attacks in warm up's and not hit one in a game? And they were bouncing the 31's in warm up's!
- Why not set your middles front quicks or push 1's away from the Great Wall of Plummer? The front quick attacks bailed you out versus Baylor!? Why not continue that successful scoring element?
- Why not take out M.E. Dodge from passing scheme!?
- and lastly, WHY DO ALL OF YOUR ATHLETES FREE BALL EVERYTHING OVER WITH TWO ARMS!!!!??!?! Do you not practice OOS attacks from 12-15 feet off the net, broken net plays? one step close approaches? You gave up 21 points on free balls... YES, 21 points!!!
So, so, so many tidbits I could suggest.... but WHO THE HELL AM I..... just a frustrated fan. Congrats Stanford, PLUMMER you are all world. Easily could have been 4x National Player of the Year and 4x Champion -- I hope Karch lets you set some in the future or play on RS!
Paul Sutherland: You a basic b!tch
Love,
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Dec 23, 2019 22:27:54 GMT -5
Playing devil's advocate... Would Wisconsin not be as intimidated if Plummer (Stanford) was not playing out of her mind -- scoring at will, hitting .800 in out of system, and hoping to add a few zeros to her signing bonus/contract and impressing agents in the crowd? What if she hit a few out, got blocked or Wisky simply converted some of those out of system plays? Would that made a significant difference and a more competitive match? Or did Loberg and Duello being no shows this past weekend contribute greatly to flow of match and gave the Gophers (hehe) no chance? I thought the passing and defense was ineffective for Wisconsin, even if they won the 'serve and pass" game?! did that make a difference? or simply was the Stanford dynasty just destined to complete this season on top, as the best (my opinion) to ever play for Stanford, even possibly NCAA history. Yes, including the four-year run by Penn State. If Sheffield had prior playing experience (does it matter?), would he be able to recognize other intangibles he could implement into his systems and during a match? Possibly even a wrinkle or two to his offense? - Why would you run slides at Plummer? - Why not put Duello at OH and let Syndey hit? *(oh that's right, you didn't practice such scenarios against Rutgers, Maryland etc.) - Why not figure another hit location for Duello, other than the "surprise X play" that everyone in the country knows about? - Why not Haggerty attacking out of back row? a Bic? or hitting 3-2 balls in front row?? - Why have your middles run 3-1 attacks in warm up's and not hit one in a game? And they were bouncing the 31's in warm up's! - Why not set your middles in front quicks or push 1's away from the Great Wall of Plummer? The front quick attacks bailed you out versus Baylor!? Why not continue that successful scoring element? - Why not take out M.E. Dodge from passing scheme? - and lastly, WHY DO YOUR ATHLETES FREE BALL EVERYTHING OVER WITH TWO ARMS!!!!??!?! Do you not practice attacks from 12-15 feet off the net, one step close approaches? You gave up 21 points on free balls... YES, 21 points!!! So, so, so many tidbits I could suggest.... but WHO THE HELL AM I..... just a frustrated fan. Congrats Stanford, PLUMMER you are all world. Easily could have been 4X National Player of the Year and 4x Champion -- I hope Karch lets you set some in the future or play RS! Love, A Fan Now THAT'S the VB Diva that I have seen (and agreed with) on Wisconsin threads. |
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Post by missunderstood on Dec 23, 2019 22:32:55 GMT -5
SOUPMAN thanks BOO!! They keep banning my account because I speak my mind :-) LOL!
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Post by Hawk Attack on Dec 24, 2019 7:53:23 GMT -5
Utah at least had the chance to prove they should have been seeded. Cal didn't even get that opportunity. Cal should've been in over Illinois. |
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Dec 24, 2019 12:42:31 GMT -5
Have watched the match in its entirety ~five times. As Karch stated in the play-by-play, Stanford's serve, and their ability to make the badgers free-ball-return so often, was a key factor!
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