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Post by gibbyb1 on Jan 6, 2020 16:08:26 GMT -5
LOTS of really good freshman and two classes of recruits at OSU, I’m sure the natives are restless and OSU officials aren’t dragging g their feet. Doesn’t sound like the two people they were focused on and met with were the answer.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 16:26:40 GMT -5
This is a nice example of an HR box that needs to be checked. Thank you for posting this. Maybe jobs in the athletic department go through a different channel and website? I simply entered "coach" in the keyword field and checked the "Columbus" location. Only 8 positions came up, none of which were in the athletic department. Closed on 12/15 May explain why you cannot find it. Link from job thread still works www.jobsatosu.com/postings/100115
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Post by jasonr on Jan 6, 2020 16:26:44 GMT -5
Maybe jobs in the athletic department go through a different channel and website? I simply entered "coach" in the keyword field and checked the "Columbus" location. Only 8 positions came up, none of which were in the athletic department. You can’t find it by searching current openings because it closed (stopped taking applications) on 12-15. www.jobsatosu.com/postings/100115Like I said, it's more or less done. They have a revised term sheet out to a coach. Either that coach takes it, or they move to the next person. However, they identified and interviewed their candidates. They're not dragging their feet.
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Post by huskerrob on Jan 6, 2020 16:28:54 GMT -5
LOTS of really good freshman and two classes of recruits at OSU, I’m sure the natives are restless and OSU officials aren’t dragging g their feet. Doesn’t sound like the two people they were focused on and met with were the answer. correct me if I am wrong, but don't both the incoming pledged recruits & the current players get released of their obligations w/the hire of a new coach? That isn't to say they must resign or anything, but if they don't wish to remain committed they are free to change as their obligation was pinned on the coach they signed for being their coach...at least that is the way I understand it. I would have thought a school like OSU would have their stuff in order, and transition from 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th choices without hesitation or delay. The idea of it being 2nd week of January w/out a coach signed, let alone announced, just seems startling to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 16:34:26 GMT -5
LOTS of really good freshman and two classes of recruits at OSU, I’m sure the natives are restless and OSU officials aren’t dragging g their feet. Doesn’t sound like the two people they were focused on and met with were the answer. correct me if I am wrong, but don't both the incoming pledged recruits & the current players get released of their obligations w/the hire of a new coach? That isn't to say they must resign or anything, but if they don't wish to remain committed they are free to change as their obligation was pinned on the coach they signed for being their coach...at least that is the way I understand it. I would have thought a school like OSU would have their stuff in order, and transition from 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th choices without hesitation or delay. The idea of it being 2nd week of January w/out a coach signed, let alone announced, just seems startling to me. An NLI for the incoming class is with the school not the coaching staff. They would need to be released from that it is not automatically void because of a coaching change. Future recruits are just verbal and have no legal binding to stay committed through a coaching change. Current players still have their scholarships but with the transfer portal, they can enter that if they so chose (coaching change or not)
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Post by vbnerd on Jan 6, 2020 16:40:28 GMT -5
LOTS of really good freshman and two classes of recruits at OSU, I’m sure the natives are restless and OSU officials aren’t dragging g their feet. Doesn’t sound like the two people they were focused on and met with were the answer. correct me if I am wrong, but don't both the incoming pledged recruits & the current players get released of their obligations w/the hire of a new coach? That isn't to say they must resign or anything, but if they don't wish to remain committed they are free to change as their obligation was pinned on the coach they signed for being their coach...at least that is the way I understand it. I would have thought a school like OSU would have their stuff in order, and transition from 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th choices without hesitation or delay. The idea of it being 2nd week of January w/out a coach signed, let alone announced, just seems startling to me. Their obligation might be to the coach in their own mind, but no, they signed a contract with the university. They don't play anywhere else next year unless Ohio State allows it. And that's not to say that it won't let them out. The university will probably ask them to wait until the new staff is introduced and once they have a conversation, whatever happens will happen. Ohio State doesn't want to waste a scholarship on someone who will jump into the portal first chance they get either.
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Post by huskerrob on Jan 6, 2020 16:46:05 GMT -5
when a school fires its coach, don't they almost always release the Freshmen & incoming recruits? I can't think of a school that hasn't, so I wonder if it is merely a technicality but not an exercised obligation?
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jan 6, 2020 16:49:13 GMT -5
correct me if I am wrong, but don't both the incoming pledged recruits & the current players get released of their obligations w/the hire of a new coach? That isn't to say they must resign or anything, but if they don't wish to remain committed they are free to change as their obligation was pinned on the coach they signed for being their coach...at least that is the way I understand it. I would have thought a school like OSU would have their stuff in order, and transition from 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th choices without hesitation or delay. The idea of it being 2nd week of January w/out a coach signed, let alone announced, just seems startling to me. Their obligation might be to the coach in their own mind, but no, they signed a contract with the university. They don't play anywhere else next year unless Ohio State allows it. And that's not to say that it won't let them out. The university will probably ask them to wait until the new staff is introduced and once they have a conversation, whatever happens will happen. Ohio State doesn't want to waste a scholarship on someone who will jump into the portal first chance they get either. I think we’ve all seen how the transfer system is going, next to nobody doesn’t get released to play anymore, this doesn’t even mention some great recruits they have that haven’t even signed yet. I’m sure they are communicating to all “sit tight, we are going to hire a great coach and we’re going to do it soon”
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jan 6, 2020 16:54:08 GMT -5
when a school fires its coach, don't they almost always release the Freshmen & incoming recruits? I can't think of a school that hasn't, so I wonder if it is merely a technicality but not an exercised obligation? No they do not as a “rule” as the NLI is with the institution. Would they? In this day and age, they most certainly would. I’d have to think unless OSU lays an egg and makes an underwhelming hire, those kids will stick. There’s also no way any of those kids signed or committed and didn’t know the possibility of a coaching change being made. Unless of course they are clueless.
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Post by azvolleydad on Jan 6, 2020 16:59:36 GMT -5
when a school fires its coach, don't they almost always release the Freshmen & incoming recruits? I can't think of a school that hasn't, so I wonder if it is merely a technicality but not an exercised obligation? Can you provide any cites to specific examples where they have released all incoming recruits/freshmen?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 17:04:19 GMT -5
when a school fires its coach, don't they almost always release the Freshmen & incoming recruits? I can't think of a school that hasn't, so I wonder if it is merely a technicality but not an exercised obligation? Can you provide any cites to specific examples where they have released all incoming recruits/freshmen? volleytalk.proboards.com/thread/53758/sjsu-releases-team
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Post by volleynerdmw on Jan 6, 2020 17:15:29 GMT -5
unless they announce it today, only 2 possible selections left. I feel bad for the people expected to make the lack of clarity work out the best it possibly can. Student Athletes not knowing to stay or leave, to enter school or drop their commitment & scramble to find a team that can be great for them starting this month. All that goes into pre-semester like housing, books, class schedules for the hard to come by classes, stuff that really can't be done w/favorable outcomes the closer to start of semester it gets. Coaching staff that will not wish to leave their current employer hanging just b/c OSU couldn't get their act together enough to have this process completed already. Student athletes of the future coaches current team, not knowing who their coach will be at the start of the season and the mad scramble they will have to endure or just the lack of choices and the forced to live with it consequences that will be. I don't get why they would think waiting is ok, either they have their coach or they don't and need to hurry up in finding a replacement. Just looks horrible for being aware of things outside themselves. Shame on OSU, really. So who are the two candidates. Fisher is out... I am beginning think DBK is out.
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Post by Wolfgang on Jan 6, 2020 17:33:23 GMT -5
People seem to love Brent Hilliard’s name. And then there are other people who will insist he will not leave the San Diego area.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jan 6, 2020 17:39:53 GMT -5
People seem to love Brent Hilliard’s name. And then there are other people who will insist he will not leave the San Diego area. You can’t surf in Columbus.
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Post by hammer on Jan 6, 2020 18:26:48 GMT -5
People seem to love Brent Hilliard’s name. And then there are other people who will insist he will not leave the San Diego area. You can’t surf in Columbus. Catch a wave and you're sitting on top of the world ...
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