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Post by Wiswell on Dec 24, 2019 13:37:14 GMT -5
How would you guys evaluate the careers of the departing Badger seniors overall? Clark, Duello, Dodge, Dixon, etc. successful. This class had a lot of selfless players, players who were willing to make changes for the success of the team, gritty, adapting, they won a lot, they competed hard at a high level, and their legacy will be remembered. Total agree. Dodge can in with being the expectation of libero and ended up getting bumped by Clark, and then Barnes and moved to back right and once she adjusted and owned it was generally good. I know some VT posters were critical of her but if there was someone better on the 19 person roster surely that person would have played. Clark took about a season to settle in and adjust to the culture. Dodd and Dixon were the ultimate teammates and team builders and Duello was a steady presence all five years. 4D and C.
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 24, 2019 20:57:15 GMT -5
How would you guys evaluate the careers of the departing Badger seniors overall? Clark, Duello, Dodge, Dixon, etc. successful. This class had a lot of selfless players, players who were willing to make changes for the success of the team, gritty, adapting, they won a lot, they competed hard at a high level, and their legacy will be remembered. I do feel a little bad for them the way they were crushed in the final. But it takes nothing away from their achievement throughout the season.
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Post by bballnut90 on Dec 25, 2019 15:15:43 GMT -5
How would you guys evaluate the careers of the departing Badger seniors overall? Clark, Duello, Dodge, Dixon, etc. Might not be the best person to do this but my thoughts were: Clark-came in as an animal in the backrow but game needed a lot of refinement IMO despite being clearly the quickest option in the backrow. You could see her potential was there but she was prone to some bad habits and really struggled bump setting her first 2 years at UW. I thought she really elevated her game this past season and looked like she really owned the role as libero and became one of the top liberos in the nation. Really struggled in the title game but overall I think she had a fantastic season. She'll be missed big time next season, more than a lot of people think IMO. Duello-came in as a top 10 recruit and looked underwhelming her first couple of years. Oddly enough was used as a serving sub as a frosh but I don't recall if she ever served again in her career (I know she didn't this past season). I thought she developed nicely last year as a RS hitter and formed a really strong block alongside Rettke. I don't think she lived up to her billing as a top 10 recruit out of HS but overall she was a reliable option for the Badgers and improved a lot over her career. Dodge-came in with a decent amount of hype, being a standout OH on the club scene and the state POY as a senior. Dodge had all of the tools to be a really strong 6 rotation outside had she been a few inches taller. Overall she was a contributor for the Badgers all 4 years and was usually a strong backrow option even if she didn't have quite the same quickness that we see out of Clark or Barnes. Generally a pretty good passer and can dig well in her own right. Had some ups and downs but I also think her passing and defense are going to be missed. The back rock crew was really excellent most of the season and Dodge had a big part in that. Career ended up being about what you'd expect from a 50-60 ranked Senior Ace DS. Dixon/others-barely played at all so never had a chance to really see how good they were or how well they improved over time
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Post by Wiswell on Dec 25, 2019 15:21:01 GMT -5
Dixon "owned" the back up setter role and I say that with the utmost admiration. Her role was to make the team better. She owned it, and did it!
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Post by bballnut90 on Dec 25, 2019 15:31:54 GMT -5
Looking ahead to next season, the Badgers return most critical front row players but a big question mark for me is back row play. Clark developed into a very good libero for UW and Dodge was a 4 year starting DS. I'm guessing the lineup will be:
OH-Haggerty (6 ro) OH-Loberg, possibly DS'd by one of the bench DS's from last year RS-Not sure DS for RS-Ashburn as serving sub. Hope she works on general defense and passing in the off season. MB-Rettke MB-Hart S-Hilley L-Barnes
The 2nd DS position and RS are the biggest question marks for me. Haven't seen any of the bench DSs play to really assess them or pick one over others. I also though Loberg did a good job in 6 rotations a year ago, although she looked more comfortable focusing just on hitting this season. Haggerty I'd assume is a lock to play 6 rotations. She was really good as a frosh and also provides a good backrow option if we ever get trapped in a front row rotation with Loberg/Hilley/Hart. We bled points with that front row in game 3 vs. Stanford.
RS is also a big toss up since we haven't see any of Wohlert/Gorum/Demps/Robinson play collegiately. Wohlert is huge. Gorum looks like she has a fast arm and is athletic from HS tapes but have read she is pretty raw offensively. Worth noting, she looks incredibly high energy from footage I've seen so I like that aspect to her. Haven't seen either incoming recruit, but both are rated higher than Wohlert/Gorum were.
Looking ahead, this team definitely has what it takes to win a title if passing/defense stays at a high level. Rettke had a POY caliber season this year, Hilley was excellent as a setter, Loberg/Haggerty looked really good on the left, and Hart also improved as the year went on. If Sheff is going to win one soon, next year is the year to do it with his strong class returning and Stanford graduating theirs.
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Post by Wiswell on Dec 25, 2019 15:39:06 GMT -5
Anna MacDonald came in highly touted out of high school. I would assume she would sub in for RS or for Haggerty if Haggerty doesn't play all six rotations.
The team will miss Duello's blocking.
I also wonder if Shanahan gets any chance for pt and Hart playing on the right side. That may be giving up too much offense and also doesn't prepare for 2021 and beyond.
Also we can't forget about Kraft. Presumably she wouldn't come all this way just to sit on the bench, unless she was eyeing up UW for graduate school anyway.
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Post by wishinwestcoastvb on Dec 25, 2019 16:35:09 GMT -5
Anna MacDonald came in highly touted out of high school. I would assume she would sub in for RS or for Haggerty if Haggerty doesn't play all six rotations. The team will miss Duello's blocking. I also wonder if Shanahan gets any chance for pt and Hart playing on the right side. That may be giving up too much offense and also doesn't prepare for 2021 and beyond. Also we can't forget about Kraft. Presumably she wouldn't come all this way just to sit on the bench, unless she was eyeing up UW for graduate school anyway. I’d imagine she’d have her degree from Pepp if she’s going to be in her fifth collegiate season. If I read somewhere correctly, she has family in WI and that may be a reason she’s coming out there
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Post by wishinwestcoastvb on Dec 25, 2019 16:35:20 GMT -5
Anna MacDonald came in highly touted out of high school. I would assume she would sub in for RS or for Haggerty if Haggerty doesn't play all six rotations. The team will miss Duello's blocking. I also wonder if Shanahan gets any chance for pt and Hart playing on the right side. That may be giving up too much offense and also doesn't prepare for 2021 and beyond. Also we can't forget about Kraft. Presumably she wouldn't come all this way just to sit on the bench, unless she was eyeing up UW for graduate school anyway. I’d imagine she’d have her degree from Pepp if she’s going to be in her fifth collegiate season. If I read somewhere correctly, she has family in WI and that may be a reason she’s coming out there
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Post by bballnut90 on Dec 25, 2019 17:36:43 GMT -5
Anna MacDonald came in highly touted out of high school. I would assume she would sub in for RS or for Haggerty if Haggerty doesn't play all six rotations. The team will miss Duello's blocking. I also wonder if Shanahan gets any chance for pt and Hart playing on the right side. That may be giving up too much offense and also doesn't prepare for 2021 and beyond. Also we can't forget about Kraft. Presumably she wouldn't come all this way just to sit on the bench, unless she was eyeing up UW for graduate school anyway. Highly doubt Kraft sees the court much at all. She hasnt played indoor in 3-4 years and stands just 6-0. Likely transferred to hopefully compete for a title and for academic purposes is my guess.
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Post by Wahinevball1234 on Dec 25, 2019 17:59:57 GMT -5
How would you guys evaluate the careers of the departing Badger seniors overall? Clark, Duello, Dodge, Dixon, etc. I would say although some people may say Duello and Dodge had underwhelming careers in terms of individual awards, I would say that when you look at how they contributed to the overall team, what they accomplished was pretty great! M.E. was an anchor in serve receive and Duello put your solid numbers and did what she was expected to do with her role.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2019 16:54:30 GMT -5
I thought Duello was a really good player. She overcame an ACL tear as a sophomore, a position change to opposite and became an All-American as a junior before suffering through more injuries as a senior. She was indispensable on this team as a blocker. I thought her offensive production lagged at the end of the season, but was a vital cog.
Would have been interesting to see how Dodge would have been at libero had Clark not arrived. She played her 1st year with a massive knee brace, had some ups and downs and battled a few cases of the yips. But, overall, I thought she had a pretty strong season in 2019 and a solid career. Maybe not what was expected by fans (or her), but overall good.
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Post by thor on Dec 26, 2019 17:42:29 GMT -5
Congrats on a great season Badgers. Lots 2 look forward to next season with so many key returnees. I'm hoping to see many more PAC12 vs B1G showdowns in next year's post season bracket. UCLA, USC and especially Oregon had very disappointing seasons.
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Post by volleyl0ver on Dec 26, 2019 17:57:02 GMT -5
Congrats on a great season Badgers. Lots 2 look forward to next season with so many key returnees. I'm hoping to see many more PAC12 vs B1G showdowns in next year's post season bracket. UCLA, USC and especially Oregon had very disappointing seasons. UCLA did not have a disappointing season. They made it to postseason unlike last year. They lost 2 starters (who played on final 4 teams) and still made the second round and lost to the national runner up on their home floor. What more were you expecting lol
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2019 15:47:23 GMT -5
I know this is the 2020 thread, but perhaps we’re underestimating 2021. Yes, it will take some time to get into a groove, but assuming Hammill will be a redshirt freshman with a year in the gym; Asburn will be there; I’m confident both Robinson and Demps will have been contributors in 2020; Hart will be there; Gorum could def turn into a stud; Orzol is AWESOME, Jardine is upping her game (PVB has called her out a few times), Smrek could be great. If we don’t end up signing another 2021 recruit, I would think this is the year the staff goes after a high-profile transfer. Again, going a bit deep into 2021 rather than maintaining focus on 2020. Seems like having 2 international recruits is seen by some as a failure of traditional, US-based recruiting. I don't really agree with that, necessarily. But, I was curious about your comment on Orzol. The all-caps AWESOME seemed at the very least to catch my eye. What is it about her that makes you exclaim so excitedly? My presumption on her is that Sheffield & Co. had not scouted her, known of her, or anything until they saw her play against the Badgers on the Euro tour. I could be wrong about that. That, to me, would be an encouraging sign as possibly a player who just blew them away in person and felt compelled to recruit rather than being forced into it due to failure elsewhere. I have watched a few youtube matches of her with the Polish U20, and what I like so far is she seems to have a pretty lively arm. She appears to be an opposite for the Polish U20 team. But, I am not sure if that is what she is expected to be upon arrival here. I think she is the youngest one on the team, and is either 16 or 17 in the matches I have been watching and appears to have some good versatility. I watched a match in July against China's U20, and while she doesn't look the part of an opposite at 6'1", she seems to do well enough blocking. But, if I wasn't watching her specifically and someone had told me that one of these polish girls is a future Badger, I don't think I would have picked her as the most likely one. But, I don't really have any scouting/coaching skills, either.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Dec 27, 2019 18:41:40 GMT -5
Re: Orzoł - I imagine they like her fundamentals and expect her to develop rapidly. A bonus is she’s been passing the international ball, so she’ll be better off than a lot of OHs who come in.
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