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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 21:51:24 GMT -5
lets have a trilogy for baby yoda and porgs what, no babu frik?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 23:25:17 GMT -5
lets have a trilogy for baby yoda and porgs what, no babu frik? i cant believe i forgot ive disappointed myself
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 0:04:19 GMT -5
i cant believe i forgot ive disappointed myself Not lost, all is. Hey Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
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Post by XAsstCoach on Jan 6, 2020 5:20:10 GMT -5
Timothy Zahn is coming out with a new Thrawn trilogy...The Ascendancy Trilogy. This will make it his fourth trilogy covering Thrawn. Heir To The Empire trilogy was awesome, and the Hand of Thrawn trilogy was just as good. Haven't had the chance to read the third trilogy titled Thrawn, Thrawn: Treason and Thrawn: Alliances...though I have it. Maybe I should crack the books open and start reading them so I'd be ready to crack the Ascendancy trilogy when it starts later this year.
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Post by XAsstCoach on Jan 6, 2020 5:28:55 GMT -5
Good points. I do think though it is possible to have different directors so long as they and the studio agree they are working off a planned blueprint (the master storyline). I mean the Harry Potter franchise had several different directors, yet the story as a whole gels together well because it was Rowling who provided the overarching plot to follow. That's where the critics/fans probably all agree on. The OT and prequel had the master storyline that all directors followed. With the sequel trilogy, they tossed out Lucas' idea and seems like they went on with their own ideas (probably what pissed Lucas off). I forget his name, but the original director for Rise of Skywalker said Palpatine was not planned at all and it was something Abrams introduced when he took over. In a way, yeah, I can agree that as much as the fans hated the prequels, it at least had a cohesive story to tell instead of the sequel where its kind of all over the place. Seems like the sequel is more or less about killing the old (Skywalkers/Solo) and pushing the new (Rey/Finn/Poe) which the old fans did not appreciate much. But after all that's been done, I'd still like to see George's plan for the sequel...even if its released as an unofficial book.
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Post by ironhammer on Jan 6, 2020 6:16:55 GMT -5
Good points. I do think though it is possible to have different directors so long as they and the studio agree they are working off a planned blueprint (the master storyline). I mean the Harry Potter franchise had several different directors, yet the story as a whole gels together well because it was Rowling who provided the overarching plot to follow. Seems like the sequel is more or less about killing the old (Skywalkers/Solo) and pushing the new (Rey/Finn/Poe) which the old fans did not appreciate much. But after all that's been done, I'd still like to see George's plan for the sequel...even if its released as an unofficial book. Personally I don't mind if they killed off Luke or Hans, but the "replacements" has to be interesting to compensate. And Rey, Finn and Poe just aren't all that interesting, they seem like cardboard characters rather than humans with real depth. This is not the fault with the actors per se. I think Daisy Ridley can be a good actress with the right material. And John Boyega has proven with "Attack the Block" that he is a good actor. The issue was with the script and directing. It's just not as good as it can and should be. Like I said, it is not an outright bad movie, sort of mediocre, but a Star Wars movie should not be mediocre.
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Post by Wolfgang on Jan 6, 2020 20:28:20 GMT -5
Don't waste time fixing it. It's time to move on to other (better) fantasy/sci-fi stories.
When I first watched Star Wars, I was a wee lad of 13 in 1977. Blown away by the first scene from the 20th Century Fox fanfare to "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..." to the appearance of the Empire starship, which was so huge that it seemed to take forever to make its way fully onto the screen. (see video below) At the time, I didn't really understand what a "rebel" was, much less an "empire." I mean, I had some understanding but not really. Come to think of it, I didn't fully comprehend the entire scrolling narrative at the beginning of the film, other than the fact that there were rebels and an evil empire and something called a Death Star.
Subsequently, I got very upset when Annie Hall won Best Picture in 1977 over, among other films, Star Wars. Over time, Star Wars has become more and more unwatchable while Annie Hall has grown in my esteem. In 1980, The Empire Strikes Back really impacted me emotionally. I was thinking about that film for a long time afterwards. Then, Return of the Jedi was a decent "finale," but even then, I thought it was utterly mediocre. I've grown to detest it over the years.
And, I, II, and III totally sucked. Of the recent ones, I've only seen The Force Awakens and Rogue One. The former sucked and the latter was okay, mostly because it provided an answer I had in 1977 when the rebels announced they had smuggled engineering schematics of the Death Star and projected a holographic image of it during the presentation on the rebel's strategy. I was thinking then, as a boy, "hey, wait a minute, how the hell did they smuggle those schematics?"
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Post by mikegarrison on Jan 6, 2020 20:46:54 GMT -5
I once thought it would be great if some of my favorite SF stories were made into movies, but having seen what Hollywood does to source material, I now tend to hope they are left unmolested. Better that scriptwriters come up with stories specifically made for movies.
I stopped reading Star Wars stuff about 30 years ago, at least. It's generally just not that interesting as SF, actually. It's fantasy/magic/mysticism dressed up in spacesuits.
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Post by Wolfgang on Jan 7, 2020 13:46:59 GMT -5
I once thought it would be great if some of my favorite SF stories were made into movies, but having seen what Hollywood does to source material, I now tend to hope they are left unmolested. Better that scriptwriters come up with stories specifically made for movies. ... Many fantasy/sci-fi stories have been adapted into excellent TV episodes, e.g., Star Trek Next Generation, Stargate, The Twilight Zone. In most cases, I haven't actually read the stories so I don't know if the adaptations themselves were faithful or not, but the episodes were great. I usually notice these when I encounter excellent episodes so I hang around to watch the credits at the end to see if they were adaptations and, some of the time, they were. I think it's harder to make a good film that has been faithfully adapted from a sci-fi novel, mostly because of time constraints and, for the literary stories, the limitations of film media to fully capture complex inner thoughts and emotions. Also, back in the 1970s, I had this brilliant idea that Hollywood should expand and fully capitalize on the appeal and strength of Marvel and DC superheroes. Not just the main ones like Superman, Wonder Woman, or Batman but others like Daredevil, Ant Man, Submariner, etc. Of course, 30-40 years later, we now have a glut of superhero movies, and ironically now, at a time when I don't care for superheroes. But I had the idea first.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jan 7, 2020 16:07:34 GMT -5
But I had the idea first. You and everyone else.
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Post by volleykenzie on Jan 7, 2020 17:46:02 GMT -5
lets have a trilogy for baby yoda and porgs the two cutest things ever 🥰
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Post by volleykenzie on Jan 7, 2020 17:47:23 GMT -5
the cute little trash can thing, baby yoda, the penguin thing and the cute little mechanic can have its own series
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Post by nothingbutcorn on Jan 7, 2020 17:50:37 GMT -5
Having seen all 9 movies, well 11 if you count Rogue, and Solo. I agree there was not a central theme to the last three. I like bits and pieces of them but could not sit down and watch it straight thru again. If I was to watch them via a DVD, I would jump over the crappy sections. Abrams and Johnson did not do the franchise any favors.
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Post by nowhereman on Jan 7, 2020 18:50:56 GMT -5
I said in another thread that they should put the franchise in frozen carbonite permanently. I stand by that opinion and am ready to move on to other genres... Hitchock, Best Pictures from the 1950s.....
I once used to only have the original Star Wars Trilogy, Indana Jones and the Sound of Music so I'd like to think I've become a lot more open minded about movies.....
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Post by XAsstCoach on Jan 7, 2020 22:43:06 GMT -5
I said in another thread that they should put the franchise in frozen carbonite permanently. I stand by that opinion and am ready to move on to other genres... Hitchock, Best Pictures from the 1950s..... I once used to only have the original Star Wars Trilogy, Indana Jones and the Sound of Music so I'd like to think I've become a lot more open minded about movies..... Changing it to Greedo shooting first soured ya, didn't it?
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