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Post by dunninla3 on Jan 12, 2020 18:42:19 GMT -5
The NCAA doesn't allow participation in professional activities while maintaining NCAA eligibility during the academic year. However, they make an exception for an athlete officially representing their country's federation... so she can represent Latvia in the pre-olympic and Olympic events. An NCAA athlete can not earn prize money representing their country (in other words FIVB) beyond that amount necessary for their expenses to compete. AVP is different. AVP is not representing USAV, so that's a no go. Play AVP while school is in session and NCAA eligibility is forfeited. So I suppose that leaves summer break and Christmas break as times an NCAA athlete could play AVP. It's interesting then, that the school's academic calender makes a difference. For example UCLA starts around 3rd wk. of September, and ends around 2nd week of June. Semester schools tend to start 3rd wk. of August, and end 2nd week of May. Semester students could play AVP from May 15-Aug 15, and 1st wk of January, while Quarter students could play from June 20 - September 20, and 1st wk of January. Neither could play Spring Break since that falls within the official Beach Volleyball season. Didn’t Sponcil have to wear a USAV Beach uniform while playing in one of the AVPs last year? not sure why that would have been necessary since AVP isn't related in any way to FIVB, and FIVB is the only promotion where players represent their countries, officially.
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Post by thelat on Jan 17, 2020 10:50:34 GMT -5
Would Graudina have a selection for a partner after the Olympics?
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Post by guest2 on Jan 17, 2020 11:21:29 GMT -5
Would Graudina have a selection for a partner after the Olympics? Two year sit out is a big hit. Thats a lot of money and points to risk, particularly if you are not the best possible option. For example say Sponcil takes a temp partner for the FIVB - say Fendrick - so she can then play AVP with Tina. She gives up some money and a better partner on the FIVB and probably loses in a decent number of CQs. Then two years are up and Alix tears her ACL. April - still at her current level for the purpose of this hypothetical then calls Tina, whose best choice would be to dump Sarah and play with April. A top defender waiting on Tina would basically be making a huge long term sacrifice based on the idea that Tina's word would trump her best option and that the two would play well together in the first place. Thats a lot of ifs to give up players who are better or equal to Tina right now and who also have potential
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jan 17, 2020 11:38:36 GMT -5
The NCAA doesn't allow participation in professional activities while maintaining NCAA eligibility during the academic year. However, they make an exception for an athlete officially representing their country's federation... so she can represent Latvia in the pre-olympic and Olympic events. An NCAA athlete can not earn prize money representing their country (in other words FIVB) beyond that amount necessary for their expenses to compete. AVP is different. AVP is not representing USAV, so that's a no go. Play AVP while school is in session and NCAA eligibility is forfeited. So I suppose that leaves summer break and Christmas break as times an NCAA athlete could play AVP. It's interesting then, that the school's academic calender makes a difference. For example UCLA starts around 3rd wk. of September, and ends around 2nd week of June. Semester schools tend to start 3rd wk. of August, and end 2nd week of May. Semester students could play AVP from May 15-Aug 15, and 1st wk of January, while Quarter students could play from June 20 - September 20, and 1st wk of January. Neither could play Spring Break since that falls within the official Beach Volleyball season. Didn’t Sponcil have to wear a USAV Beach uniform while playing in one of the AVPs last year? Yeah, she and T. Cannon played as “Team USA” once, I think Chicago. Cannon was in school at the time, so USAV came with some convoluted explanation about prepping for representing USA in international play. Or something. The whole thing seemed kind of odd.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jan 17, 2020 11:44:00 GMT -5
Would Graudina have a selection for a partner after the Olympics? Two year sit out is a big hit. Thats a lot of money and points to risk, particularly if you are not the best possible option. For example say Sponcil takes a temp partner for the FIVB - say Fendrick - so she can then play AVP with Tina. She gives up some money and a better partner on the FIVB and probably loses in a decent number of CQs. Then two years are up and Alix tears her ACL. April - still at her current level for the purpose of this hypothetical then calls Tina, whose best choice would be to dump Sarah and play with April. A top defender waiting on Tina would basically be making a huge long term sacrifice based on the idea that Tina's word would trump her best option and that the two would play well together in the first place. Thats a lot of ifs to give up players who are better or equal to Tina right now and who also have potential Keep in mind she’s returning to school and would be at.USC for most of time she had to sit out. So no money/points to be lost.
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Post by thelat on Jan 17, 2020 14:32:02 GMT -5
She plans on playing some AVP events
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 15:20:20 GMT -5
She plans on playing some AVP events Any idea what position she would try? She’s kind of in the middle of the road size wise.
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Post by 23flavors on Jan 17, 2020 15:39:50 GMT -5
6’ is not middle of the road. She blocks internationally, why would she not be big enough to block on the AVP?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 16:16:27 GMT -5
6’ is not middle of the road. She blocks internationally, why would she not be big enough to block on the AVP? [br She’s blocking for Latvia not the US. US smallest blocker is 6’2-6’3 (Larsen). We have 6’1 and 6’2 defenders, now. The game is changing fast. That’s why I ask. If she’s looking ahead at 22-23 years old; she’s not going to be a blocker in 4 years. They are getting bigger and stronger. Tina against Klineman, Walsh, Dowdy, Plummer (if she comes out), Larsen, Jones, Ross, etc etc is zero match at the net
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Post by thelat on Jan 18, 2020 0:49:49 GMT -5
Yet she won the European Championship and qualified for the Olympics as a 6 foot blocker
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jan 18, 2020 1:58:25 GMT -5
When Tina entered USC, she was still growing. She’s now closer to 6’2 “ than she is to 6,’ with long arms and major hops. She has the ability to be an elite world tour level blocker for years to come. And I’m curious who all of these stud 6’2” defenders might be, ‘cause there currently aren’t any playing NCAA, AVP, or the world tour. April would be the closest at 6’1” - but she’s a bit of a unicorn, even after 15 years as a pro.
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Post by guest2 on Jan 18, 2020 3:01:38 GMT -5
When Tina entered USC, she was still growing. She’s now closer to 6’2 “ than she is to 6,’ with long arms and major hops. She has the ability to be an elite world tour level blocker for years to come. And I’m curious who all of these stud 6’2” defenders might be, ‘cause there currently aren’t any playing NCAA, AVP, or the world tour. April would be the closest at 6’1” - but she’s a bit of a unicorn, even after 15 years as a pro. Despite woeful defense, Anouk has to be nearing that territory with that team finally posting a couple results. I agree with the larger points though, I posted a full list elsewhere but plenty of small blockers doing very well. Brandie is small, Agatha, really all the Brazilians except Rebecca, Summer plays smaller than she is, Clancy is listed at 6'0 though she appears taller, but could be the hair. Kira supposedly 6 as well Top 10 frontcourt players 6'2 or over (not in order) 1) Kerri 2) Pavs 3) Alix 4) Rebecca 5) Joanna Rebecca and Alix are new the others are long time FIVB players, 8, 43, and 7 years on tour respectively. Also April as the model, even if there were others like her, is not ideal. She has great tools but also very defined weaknesses - speed. As a physical tabula rasa a shorter/faster player like Laura is the extant ideal for a defender. April played with the best blocker in the world and, while dominant, they were much more vulnerable than Kerri/Misty were because of April's defensive and speed weaknesses
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Post by ajm on Jan 18, 2020 8:25:46 GMT -5
When Tina entered USC, she was still growing. She’s now closer to 6’2 “ than she is to 6,’ with long arms and major hops. She has the ability to be an elite world tour level blocker for years to come. And I’m curious who all of these stud 6’2” defenders might be, ‘cause there currently aren’t any playing NCAA, AVP, or the world tour. April would be the closest at 6’1” - but she’s a bit of a unicorn, even after 15 years as a pro. Despite woeful defense, Anouk has to be nearing that territory with that team finally posting a couple results. I agree with the larger points though, I posted a full list elsewhere but plenty of small blockers doing very well. Brandie is small, Agatha, really all the Brazilians except Rebecca, Summer plays smaller than she is, Clancy is listed at 6'0 though she appears taller, but could be the hair. Kira supposedly 6 as well Top 10 frontcourt players 6'2 or over (not in order) 1) Kerri 2) Pavs 3) Alix 4) Rebecca 5) Joanna Rebecca and Alix are new the others are long time FIVB players, 8, 43, and 7 years on tour respectively. Also April as the model, even if there were others like her, is not ideal. She has great tools but also very defined weaknesses - speed. As a physical tabula rasa a shorter/faster player like Laura is the extant ideal for a defender. April played with the best blocker in the world and, while dominant, they were much more vulnerable than Kerri/Misty were because of April's defensive and speed weaknesses I think you are confusing Rebecca with Ana Patricia.
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Post by guest2 on Jan 18, 2020 12:09:26 GMT -5
Despite woeful defense, Anouk has to be nearing that territory with that team finally posting a couple results. I agree with the larger points though, I posted a full list elsewhere but plenty of small blockers doing very well. Brandie is small, Agatha, really all the Brazilians except Rebecca, Summer plays smaller than she is, Clancy is listed at 6'0 though she appears taller, but could be the hair. Kira supposedly 6 as well Top 10 frontcourt players 6'2 or over (not in order) 1) Kerri 2) Pavs 3) Alix 4) Rebecca 5) Joanna Rebecca and Alix are new the others are long time FIVB players, 8, 43, and 7 years on tour respectively. Also April as the model, even if there were others like her, is not ideal. She has great tools but also very defined weaknesses - speed. As a physical tabula rasa a shorter/faster player like Laura is the extant ideal for a defender. April played with the best blocker in the world and, while dominant, they were much more vulnerable than Kerri/Misty were because of April's defensive and speed weaknesses I think you are confusing Rebecca with Ana Patricia. yep. senior moment a decade or so early
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Post by ramo2653 on Jan 19, 2020 16:57:23 GMT -5
I personally wonder if there's a cap on how effective a big blocker can be at the world tour level. Probably due to not too many people can be that big and mobile. We joke about Pavan being not that fluid, but she's still a beast. Kerri is of course a true unicorn especially since she's still balling after all these years. I'd think the cut off for women is probably 6'2 and something like 6'8 for men.
I always thought Kira was listed at 5'11? But what's an inch?
Ugh, Laura is so good, I can't wait to see her play again. I really fell in love with her and Kira leading up to the 2016 Olympics since Universal HD (which got turned into the Olympic channel) would show the world tour events (gold and bronze for both genders) leading up to Olympics. It would be nice if that's the case this year, but I assume the rights are all crossed up.
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