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Post by jake on May 10, 2020 11:33:52 GMT -5
Why can’t the UC or all the other Cali schools let the athletes on campus and if other students doesn’t want to face the risk, they can continue to learn online? Each student athletes will be tested and will be housed in athletes only dorms. That way you can separate the athletes from the general population. Its important that California schools make an effort to find a solution. They are screwing up many, many leagues. If Cal was to not play sports, they will affect the PAC 12, Mountain West, Big West, WAC, WCC, MPSF just to name a few. Get the student athletes on campus! They can have their games with no fans if they want. Just get them on campus so they don’t screw everything up for others. It's California politicking as usual,...I'm sorry!!! The Cali universities' administrators are simply complying to their urges. It's not the schools' initiating. So much easier for the politicians just to say NO...to having college sports.
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Post by jcvball22 on May 10, 2020 11:52:32 GMT -5
Why can’t the UC or all the other Cali schools let the athletes on campus and if other students doesn’t want to face the risk, they can continue to learn online? Each student athletes will be tested and will be housed in athletes only dorms. That way you can separate the athletes from the general population. Its important that California schools make an effort to find a solution. They are screwing up many, many leagues. If Cal was to not play sports, they will affect the PAC 12, Mountain West, Big West, WAC, WCC, MPSF just to name a few. Get the student athletes on campus! They can have their games with no fans if they want. Just get them on campus so they don’t screw everything up for others. Because athletics are not the focus of higher education? Sorry if that isn't convenient for you. Hawaii is still under 14-day quarantine rules, through at least the end of the month, with the possibility of extending. How do you imagine that would work in all of this? Teams travel two weeks early, hang out for 14 days, play their match and go home? Your state will still be subject to the rules of the state government.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on May 10, 2020 12:49:46 GMT -5
Why can’t the UC or all the other Cali schools let the athletes on campus and if other students doesn’t want to face the risk, they can continue to learn online? Each student athletes will be tested and will be housed in athletes only dorms. That way you can separate the athletes from the general population. Its important that California schools make an effort to find a solution. They are screwing up many, many leagues. If Cal was to not play sports, they will affect the PAC 12, Mountain West, Big West, WAC, WCC, MPSF just to name a few. Get the student athletes on campus! They can have their games with no fans if they want. Just get them on campus so they don’t screw everything up for others. Because athletics are not the focus of higher education? Sorry if that isn't convenient for you. Hawaii is still under 14-day quarantine rules, through at least the end of the month, with the possibility of extending. How do you imagine that would work in all of this? Teams travel two weeks early, hang out for 14 days, play their match and go home? Your state will still be subject to the rules of the state government. I think Hawaii’s quarantine rules will depend on what’s happening in other states and other parts of the world. If there are still high numbers of Covid-19 cases in other places, Hawaii’s quarantine orders for travelers will still be in place come late August when the season is supposed to start. The rules could be relaxed for athletics travel but teams would only be able to travel to the location of the match/game (or practice location at UH) and back to lodging. No trips to the beach or Diamond Head.
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Post by noblesol on May 10, 2020 13:22:56 GMT -5
To determine who may currently be carrying around the novel corona virus in Hawaii: - Antigen testing with about a 15 minute turnaround will soon be widely available: www.cbsnews.com/news/fda-approves-coronavirus-antigen-test-with-fast-results/- PCR testing (serology)is currently available in Hawaii to anyone with a reason to believe they may have symptoms, or been exposed, and on the recommendation of their healthcare provider. Insurance will cover it. Also, there have been almost routine drive-up events where anyone who wants the test can drive up in their car and get swabbed. Turnaround on the test is ~ 48 hours or less. To determine who may carry antibodies and may have some immunity, an antibody test is available in Hawaii to anyone who can get a doctor to ask for it. Insurance may or may not cover it. It costs about $50. It currently has a 24-hour turnaround in most cases. Given the above testing availability, student athletes traveling to or in Hawaii could be tested and results known in a couple of days at most as to whether they have COVID-19, or had it and developed antibodies and may have some immunity. With the antigen test soon available, it could be known in about 15 minutes if they are carrying around the virus antigen (if they are infected). I believe the key to opening up fall sports will be to test athletes routinely, and test them before traveling and right after they arrive at their travel destination. Usually schools traveling to Hawaii give themselves at least a couple of days to acclimate and practice after arrival. Enough time for arrival testing to be done and results known before a match. With this testing availability, Hawaii's current 14-day inbound traveler quarantine would no longer be necessary for an athletic group that all tests negative and with none showing any symptoms.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2020 14:00:28 GMT -5
Testing is, of course, the issue. Our failures in that regard (CDC & FDA) will, I think, dominate how this epidemic is remembered. Once antibody tests are widely available (not just theoretically available) we'll be able to track the spread much more accurately and, I suspect, that'll be a game changer.
But again, from the school's perspective, cutting costs will still be an issue, even if the virus becomes more manageable.
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Post by jake on May 11, 2020 10:47:58 GMT -5
Right now,...if,...all Fall sports were cancelled it will be a tragedy.
Of course, I can see Fall & Winter sports being played together with only some difficulties.
By the start of August student-athletes should be told if their season will begin as scheduled. Or be postponed accordingly,...one month at a time.
"The Chewing Gum Test" for Covid-19 must be found,...ASAP.
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Post by thebeach1 on May 12, 2020 22:19:39 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 22:24:32 GMT -5
This is a little sensationalist and misleading. Chancellor White said MOST classes will remain online and campuses will not be "fully open". He also said “limited exceptions for in-person activities that cannot be delivered virtually, are indispensable to the university’s core mission and can be conducted within the rigorous standards of safety and welfare.” It remains to be seen if sports falls under that classification.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on May 12, 2020 22:36:15 GMT -5
This is a little sensationalist and misleading. Chancellor White said MOST classes will remain online and campuses will not be "fully open". He also said “limited exceptions for in-person activities that cannot be delivered virtually, are indispensable to the university’s core mission and can be conducted within the rigorous standards of safety and welfare.” It remains to be seen if sports falls under that classification. I sure hope it does. While I feel for all the athletes, JR has sure had some rotten luck during her collegiate volleyball career. I hope she has a season she can enjoy.
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Post by thebeach1 on May 12, 2020 22:53:02 GMT -5
This is a little sensationalist and misleading. Chancellor White said MOST classes will remain online and campuses will not be "fully open". He also said “limited exceptions for in-person activities that cannot be delivered virtually, are indispensable to the university’s core mission and can be conducted within the rigorous standards of safety and welfare.” It remains to be seen if sports falls under that classification. Where in the above article do you find "sensationalist and misleading" information? I read articles, before I post, and the article simply states that the California State University's 23 campuses will continue on line education for the 2020-21 academic school year. In regards to how this decision will impact athletics, I have no idea and nor do you. I'm certain that the Big West Conference, and other conferences that the member schools participates in, will follow up in the coming weeks with their announcement. If anyone is being "sensationalist and misleading" its you.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 23:01:25 GMT -5
This is a little sensationalist and misleading. Chancellor White said MOST classes will remain online and campuses will not be "fully open". He also said “limited exceptions for in-person activities that cannot be delivered virtually, are indispensable to the university’s core mission and can be conducted within the rigorous standards of safety and welfare.” It remains to be seen if sports falls under that classification. Where in the above article do you find "sensationalist and misleading" information? I read articles, before I post, and the article simply states that the California State University's 23 campuses will continue on line education for the 2020-21 academic school year. In regards to how this decision will impact athletics, I have no idea and nor do you. I'm certain that the Big West Conference, and other conferences that the member schools participates in, will follow up in the coming weeks with their announcement. If anyone is being "sensationalist and misleading" its you. From that article: "California State University campuses to remain closed through fall semester, online instruction to continue" - given the CSU campuses are currently entirely closed the word "remain" implies that state will continue. That isn't what the chancellor said. "The California State University (CSU) system said it plans to cancel all in-person classes for the fall and to continue instruction online, due to the coronavirus pandemic." - Chancellor White did not, in fact, say this, as the quote I posted in my response shows. That article implies that all classes will be online and, as Mark Emmert, President of the NCAA has already said, without any students on campus, collegiate athletics won't happen. The inference is clear. That outcome may come to pass, but it isn't what was announced today.
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Post by thebeach1 on May 12, 2020 23:09:52 GMT -5
Where in the above article do you find "sensationalist and misleading" information? I read articles, before I post, and the article simply states that the California State University's 23 campuses will continue on line education for the 2020-21 academic school year. In regards to how this decision will impact athletics, I have no idea and nor do you. I'm certain that the Big West Conference, and other conferences that the member schools participates in, will follow up in the coming weeks with their announcement. If anyone is being "sensationalist and misleading" its you. From that article: "California State University campuses to remain closed through fall semester, online instruction to continue" - given the CSU campuses are currently entirely closed the word "remain" implies that state will continue. That isn't what the chancellor said. "The California State University (CSU) system said it plans to cancel all in-person classes for the fall and to continue instruction online, due to the coronavirus pandemic." - Chancellor White did not, in fact, say this, as the quote I posted in my response shows. That article implies that all classes will be online and, as Mark Emmert, President of the NCAA has already said, without any students on campus, collegiate athletics won't happen. The inference is clear. That outcome may come to pass, but it isn't what was announced today. Listen, I posted an article in regards to an announcement by the Chancellor's office of the California State University system. I made no editorial opinion in my posting---it was solely informational and it came from a credible news source. Whatever you would like to infer, or interpret from the article, be my guest. Stir the pot with someone else. I couldn't care less about your conspiratorial theories of what you believe what the article implies.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 23:13:52 GMT -5
From that article: "California State University campuses to remain closed through fall semester, online instruction to continue" - given the CSU campuses are currently entirely closed the word "remain" implies that state will continue. That isn't what the chancellor said. "The California State University (CSU) system said it plans to cancel all in-person classes for the fall and to continue instruction online, due to the coronavirus pandemic." - Chancellor White did not, in fact, say this, as the quote I posted in my response shows. That article implies that all classes will be online and, as Mark Emmert, President of the NCAA has already said, without any students on campus, collegiate athletics won't happen. The inference is clear. That outcome may come to pass, but it isn't what was announced today. Listen, I posted an article in regards to an announcement by the Chancellor's office of the California State University system. I made no editorial opinion in my posting---it was solely informational and it came from a credible news source. Whatever you would like to infer, or interpret from the article, be my guest. Stir the pot with someone else. I couldn't care less about your conspiratorial theories of what you believe what the article implies. No implication. The article contains a crucial falsehood: "The California State University (CSU) system said it plans to cancel all in-person classes for the fall and to continue instruction online, due to the coronavirus pandemic." The above is not true. Given that many BW fans might read it and assume, reasonably, that means sports were effectively cancelled today it is important to correct that. I'm not sure why you're getting so defensive... You didn't write it. But it's not accurate and accuracy, with things like this, matters.
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Post by playaplease on May 12, 2020 23:41:09 GMT -5
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Post by atticus on May 13, 2020 0:04:35 GMT -5
What I heard today from a CSU coach was that for now they are still planning for sports and that athletes will be on campus along with the small number of other students for whom online classes don’t work (nursing, lab sciences, perhaps studio art, etc). How that fits with the NCAA’s statement, I don’t know, but I’m sure more info will be coming soon.
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