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Post by VolleyballMag on Mar 16, 2020 11:10:34 GMT -5
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Post by dunninla3 on Mar 16, 2020 23:34:52 GMT -5
nice article.
UCLA seniors Simo, Yeomans and Justine lost the opportunity for a 3 peat. Quade moved all the way from Canada/Illinois for a season that ... wasn't. Sad.
Not sure what Nuss and Coppola will decide to do, but staying another year for the championship shot is very low odds considering that USC has their Olympian coming back plus Kraft/Maple coming in. USC will the prohibitive favorite next year.
I don't expect a lot of people to read this thread or this Board for NCAA news for awhile. I think everybody's depressed.
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Post by vb1999 on Mar 16, 2020 23:48:05 GMT -5
nice article. UCLA seniors Simo, Yeomans and Justine lost the opportunity for a 3 peat. Quade moved all the way from Canada/Illinois for a season that ... wasn't. Sad. Not sure what Nuss and Coppola will decide to do, but staying another year for the championship shot is very low odds considering that USC has their Olympian coming back plus Kraft/Maple coming in. USC will the prohibitive favorite next year. I don't expect a lot of people to read this thread or this Board for NCAA news for awhile. I think everybody's depressed. LSU could be strong. They may stay. They may push the Olympics a year, so maybe no Graudina. SC will still be strong, Olivia Bakos is coming in and she is tough. Nourse twins didn't play where they should have this year, they should have been higher and will continue to be a force. Both Halgren and Slater are competitors and winners. UCLA will be very strong too if Simo stays and they are getting the younger VanWinkle. Denaburg and Riley along with Sparks could be tough contenders. Also, how is the scholarship working, don't think the NCAA has decided. The big ? who will return for all of these schools, HI, LSU, UCLA?
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Post by Wahinevball1234 on Mar 17, 2020 4:18:20 GMT -5
nice article. UCLA seniors Simo, Yeomans and Justine lost the opportunity for a 3 peat. Quade moved all the way from Canada/Illinois for a season that ... wasn't. Sad. Not sure what Nuss and Coppola will decide to do, but staying another year for the championship shot is very low odds considering that USC has their Olympian coming back plus Kraft/Maple coming in. USC will the prohibitive favorite next year. I don't expect a lot of people to read this thread or this Board for NCAA news for awhile. I think everybody's depressed. LSU could be strong. They may stay. They may push the Olympics a year, so maybe no Graudina. SC will still be strong, Olivia Bakos is coming in and she is tough. Nourse twins didn't play where they should have this year, they should have been higher and will continue to be a force. Both Halgren and Slater are competitors and winners. Tons of hype on Maple/Kraff, not completely convinced, but still good. UCLA will be very strong too if Simo stays and they are getting the younger VanWinkle. Denaburg and Riley along with Sparks could be tough contenders. Also, how is the scholarship working, don't think the NCAA has decided. The big ? who will return for all o these schools, HI, LSU, UCLA? How are you not sold on Kraft/Maple. They qualified for several AVP main draws as juniors in high school?
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Post by guest2 on Mar 17, 2020 5:25:23 GMT -5
LSU could be strong. They may stay. They may push the Olympics a year, so maybe no Graudina. SC will still be strong, Olivia Bakos is coming in and she is tough. Nourse twins didn't play where they should have this year, they should have been higher and will continue to be a force. Both Halgren and Slater are competitors and winners. Tons of hype on Maple/Kraff, not completely convinced, but still good. UCLA will be very strong too if Simo stays and they are getting the younger VanWinkle. Denaburg and Riley along with Sparks could be tough contenders. Also, how is the scholarship working, don't think the NCAA has decided. The big ? who will return for all o these schools, HI, LSU, UCLA? How are you not sold on Kraft/Maple. They qualified for several AVP main draws as juniors in high school? And beat a couple legit AVP teams on the way
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Mar 17, 2020 11:33:34 GMT -5
nice article. UCLA seniors Simo, Yeomans and Justine lost the opportunity for a 3 peat. Quade moved all the way from Canada/Illinois for a season that ... wasn't. Sad. Not sure what Nuss and Coppola will decide to do, but staying another year for the championship shot is very low odds considering that USC has their Olympian coming back plus Kraft/Maple coming in. USC will the prohibitive favorite next year. I don't expect a lot of people to read this thread or this Board for NCAA news for awhile. I think everybody's depressed. LSU could be strong. They may stay. They may push the Olympics a year, so maybe no Graudina. SC will still be strong, Olivia Bakos is coming in and she is tough. Nourse twins didn't play where they should have this year, they should have been higher and will continue to be a force. Both Halgren and Slater are competitors and winners. Tons of hype on Maple/Kraff, not completely convinced, but still good. UCLA will be very strong too if Simo stays and they are getting the younger VanWinkle. Denaburg and Riley along with Sparks could be tough contenders. Also, how is the scholarship working, don't think the NCAA has decided. The big ? who will return for all o these schools, HI, LSU, UCLA? Interesting thought about Graudina, it underscores how much uncertainty there is right now. At any rate, Kraft/Maple have earned a little hype, and it’s worth noting they crushed the Nourses in Huntington last year -13/-15. I don’t see Bakos getting any PT her freshman year if everyone who is supposed show up shows up.
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Post by hbmb10k on Mar 17, 2020 12:23:38 GMT -5
I'm not sure who coming next year other than Kraft/Maple, but I'd rate Bakos, with a court IQ second to none, above the current 4's and 5's. Looks harmless, but she's very smart player.
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Post by vb1999 on Mar 18, 2020 0:53:21 GMT -5
How are you not sold on Kraft/Maple. They qualified for several AVP main draws as juniors in high school? And beat a couple legit AVP teams on the way They qualified for one AVP and got lucky and strategically won a tournament to get a free spot in the main draw. Also, that AVP had all of the really good players over seas competing in FIVB. I am not saying they are not good players, parents their kids out of high school to travel around the world to play a bunch of teams that did not even know how to play beach volleyball. Also watched the UCLA commit Pery nearly beat them recently with a partner that she never plays with and I am not sure where that girl is going to school, not sure she was even a top recruit and Pery is small but good.
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Post by vb1999 on Mar 18, 2020 1:00:08 GMT -5
LSU could be strong. They may stay. They may push the Olympics a year, so maybe no Graudina. SC will still be strong, Olivia Bakos is coming in and she is tough. Nourse twins didn't play where they should have this year, they should have been higher and will continue to be a force. Both Halgren and Slater are competitors and winners. Tons of hype on Maple/Kraff, not completely convinced, but still good. UCLA will be very strong too if Simo stays and they are getting the younger VanWinkle. Denaburg and Riley along with Sparks could be tough contenders. Also, how is the scholarship working, don't think the NCAA has decided. The big ? who will return for all o these schools, HI, LSU, UCLA? Interesting thought about Graudina, it underscores how much uncertainty there is right now. At any rate, Kraft/Maple have earned a little hype, and it’s worth noting they crushed the Nourses in Huntington last year -13/-15. I don’t see Bakos getting any PT her freshman year if everyone who is supposed show up shows up. Agree, interesting if Graudina doesn't return. Bakos will play, she is the get for that recruiting class. Great court vision and very athletic. I pick Nourse twins over the Kraf/Maple all day long. Those two won this whole season against tough teams. They also made a bunch of main draws when there was a ton of competition last year in the FIVB, beating very tough teams and made it through two or three qualifiers to get in the AVP main draws. Will the power houses from LSU return?
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Post by vb1999 on Mar 18, 2020 1:06:19 GMT -5
Agree, Travis always has such great perspective.
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Post by Wahinevball1234 on Mar 18, 2020 1:17:38 GMT -5
Interesting thought about Graudina, it underscores how much uncertainty there is right now. At any rate, Kraft/Maple have earned a little hype, and it’s worth noting they crushed the Nourses in Huntington last year -13/-15. I don’t see Bakos getting any PT her freshman year if everyone who is supposed show up shows up. Agree, interesting if Graudina doesn't return. Bakos will play, she is the get for that recruiting class. Great court vision and very athletic. I pick Nourse twins over the Kraf/Maple all day long. Those two won this whole season against tough teams. They also made a bunch of main draws when there was a ton of competition last year in the FIVB, beating very tough teams and made it through two or three qualifiers to get in the AVP main draws. Will the power houses from LSU return? Just FYI Kraft/Maple crushed the nourse twins in some main draw, I believe hermosa.
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Post by guest2 on Mar 18, 2020 9:41:56 GMT -5
And beat a couple legit AVP teams on the way They qualified for one AVP and got lucky and strategically won a tournament to get a free spot in the main draw. Also, that AVP had all of the really good players over seas competing in FIVB. I am not saying they are not good players, but there is a lot of their own strange parent hype behind them. Taking their kids out of school to travel around the world to play a bunch of teams that did not even know how to play beach. Also watched the UCLA commit Pery nearly beat them recently with a partner that she never plays with and I am not sure where that girl is going to school, not sure she was even a top recruit and Pery is small but good. Im ordinarily a skeptic as well, but they beat several main draw teams. Not Stocsen or Kerri or someone like that but Howard, Urango and Dowdy/Quiggle have all held their own at the lower levels of FIVB play 2-3 star-ish and along with Sheila Shaw have been MD fixtures for a long time. Id also suggest that for 95% of college students or late high schoolers a week trip to Guam is probably more valuable than the equivalent week in school - not counting the VB which I agree was probably largely a waste of time. I think their victories are partially an indictment of the lower levels of the AVP the last few years and also down to unfamiliarity and overconfidence for the regulars but they did win those matches. The next few years when the bottom feeders get forced out by a tide of players leaving college should be very interesting, possibly akin to early 90s AVP where suddenly top teams had to be sober and paying attention to win
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Post by burbank55 on Mar 18, 2020 11:14:33 GMT -5
There’s no evidence that the Tokyo Olympics would be pushed a year. The Japanese head said their contract with the IOC stipulates the games happening in the 2020 calendar year. Despite criticism, he just said the games will go on as planned. Even still, there’s a good chance that the games would be pushed 1-2 months.
Much uncertainty obviously, but the logistics of pushing the games a full year are nearly impossible. I’d put the scenarios in this order right now. While the global situation is getting worse, we are still not fully convinced about how full summer heat will affect virus survivability. While Southern Hemisphere countries are now getting transmission, it’s no longer full summer there.
1) Games go on as planned 2) Games are postponed one month 3) Games are postponed 2-3 months 4) Games are cancelled 5) Games are postponed 1 full year
If we still have a 2021 collegiate beach volleyball season, Tina Graudina should be back on campus completing her degree.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Mar 18, 2020 13:17:41 GMT -5
Interesting thought about Graudina, it underscores how much uncertainty there is right now. At any rate, Kraft/Maple have earned a little hype, and it’s worth noting they crushed the Nourses in Huntington last year -13/-15. I don’t see Bakos getting any PT her freshman year if everyone who is supposed show up shows up. Agree, interesting if Graudina doesn't return. Bakos will play, she is the get for that recruiting class. Great court vision and very athletic. I pick Nourse twins over the Kraf/Maple all day long. Those two won this whole season against tough teams. They also made a bunch of main draws when there was a ton of competition last year in the FIVB, beating very tough teams and made it through two or three qualifiers to get in the AVP main draws. Will the power houses from LSU return? The Nourses are a good pair - but you've really exaggerated their FIVB/AVP results. They played a handful of One Stars against mostly lower level teams, played OK, but never came close to a podium finish. Made two AVP main draws, didn't beat anyone of note, and were crushed in their lone head-to-head match with Kraft/Maple (who were, and still are, beating legit main draw teams). But I do think that - after a couple of early losses - the Nourses were settling in nicely at USC in the #3 spot. As for who is better, there will be some battles in practice next Fall for sure. IMO, Kraft/Maple win 7 times out of 10 against the Nourses, the difference being Kraft's play at the net. Either way, figuring out where the respective pairs slot (if Blanton keeps them all intact, of course) will be a good problem to have. Haven't heard a peep about Nuss/Coppola one way or another yet.
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Post by rainmaker on Mar 18, 2020 13:24:43 GMT -5
geddyleeridesagain good point about Kraft at net..
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