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AVP Season
Mar 29, 2020 21:16:46 GMT -5
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Post by 405LAX on Mar 29, 2020 21:16:46 GMT -5
There is no "beach volleyball as a career" as it is with the exception of the top teams and even then it's barely one when you throw in expenses. For 90%, correct. They don’t treat it like a business. I know one player not even in the top 10 making 7k a month in sponsorship. So...depends if you’re intelligent with business. Can't be on the men's side that's for sure. |
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Post by LongSpatch on Mar 29, 2020 23:13:31 GMT -5
I hope they do a CA only tour, we deserve all the events in our backyard. Huntington, Hermosa, Manhattan, Santa Monica work with me quite well. we agree on something. |
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Post by JB Southpaw on Mar 30, 2020 8:09:26 GMT -5
For 90%, correct. They don’t treat it like a business. I know one player not even in the top 10 making 7k a month in sponsorship. So...depends if you’re intelligent with business. Can't be on the men's side that's for sure. I don't think the women have yet to really scratch the surface of sponsorships. When you see Johnson & Johnson, make up brands and such getting involved, that is when the sport will really grow. And the men can tag along. |
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Post by guest2 on Mar 30, 2020 10:01:48 GMT -5
Can't be on the men's side that's for sure. I don't think the women have yet to really scratch the surface of sponsorships. When you see Johnson & Johnson, make up brands and such getting involved, that is when the sport will really grow. And the men can tag along. Agree 1000% on makeup, its the most natural synergy in the history of the sport. |
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Post by ajm on Mar 30, 2020 18:18:48 GMT -5
I know one player not even in the top 10 making 7k a month in sponsorship. So...depends if you’re intelligent with business. Traci Callahan doesn’t count LOL! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 18:57:02 GMT -5
For 90%, correct. They don’t treat it like a business. I know one player not even in the top 10 making 7k a month in sponsorship. So...depends if you’re intelligent with business. How do you get 90%? In a small field (so 16 teams) there are just under half who are doing just fine as a career and its basically every player who is good enough to enjoy any FIVB success at all. On the womens side for example: 1) MHPavs 2) Ateam 3) Slaes 4) Stocsen 5) Walsh/Sweat - Not really an AVP team but Brooke is so Ill count it 6) Wilkerson/Hughes Who in that list is not in six figures? 7) Day/Flint are over 60k without sponsors or Betsi's college coaching money - whatever that may be, so Id say they are also in 6 figures Per BVB Info and assuming that these teams played exclusively with each other in 2019. Figures represent individual earnings. 1) MHPavs ~ $134k in earnings 2) Ateam ~ $148k in earnings 3) Slaes ~ $79k in earnings 4) Stocsen ~ $62k in earnings 5) Walsh/Sweat ~ $60k in earnings (FIVB only) 6) Wilkerson/Hughes - Hughes ~ $53k and Wilkerson ~ $65k Now you include sponsorship's, and yes, all are likely above $100k (except maybe Stocsen). This wasn't something you mentioned in your post, but just for fun. You don't factor in other costs that most other "professionals" have built into their salary/benefits package (health insurance, 401k matching, paid company travel, etc.). I believe USAV helps with some of this, but I wouldn't say that any of them are better off financially as individuals than any mid-level manager in a cookie-cutter corporation after all expenses are accounted for. Difference between them and others though, they actually love what they do and get to play a sport to make their living! |
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Post by guest2 on Mar 30, 2020 20:04:14 GMT -5
How do you get 90%? In a small field (so 16 teams) there are just under half who are doing just fine as a career and its basically every player who is good enough to enjoy any FIVB success at all. On the womens side for example: 1) MHPavs 2) Ateam 3) Slaes 4) Stocsen 5) Walsh/Sweat - Not really an AVP team but Brooke is so Ill count it 6) Wilkerson/Hughes Who in that list is not in six figures? 7) Day/Flint are over 60k without sponsors or Betsi's college coaching money - whatever that may be, so Id say they are also in 6 figures Per BVB Info and assuming that these teams played exclusively with each other in 2019. Figures represent individual earnings. 1) MHPavs ~ $134k in earnings 2) Ateam ~ $148k in earnings 3) Slaes ~ $79k in earnings 4) Stocsen ~ $62k in earnings 5) Walsh/Sweat ~ $60k in earnings (FIVB only) 6) Wilkerson/Hughes - Hughes ~ $53k and Wilkerson ~ $65k Now you include sponsorship's, and yes, all are likely above $100k (except maybe Stocsen). This wasn't something you mentioned in your post, but just for fun. You don't factor in other costs that most other "professionals" have built into their salary/benefits package (health insurance, 401k matching, paid company travel, etc.). I believe USAV helps with some of this, but I wouldn't say that any of them are better off financially as individuals than any mid-level manager in a cookie-cutter corporation after all expenses are accounted for. Difference between them and others though, they actually love what they do and get to play a sport to make their living! Its my understanding that health insurance is taken care of by USAV, although others would certainly know better than me. Travel is paid for for international events. The Canadians also get something from their federation I believe. They also get to travel the world and get tons of time off - p1440 was abnormally late in 2018, but Stocsen still got 4 months off and most of the other players got similar amounts, and most of these players rarely put in the 8-12 hour days the mid-level managers you compare them to do. Also lets not forget their ages. Sponcil/Hughes/Flint/Brandie/Larsen/Claes/MHP are all 27 or younger. April and Kerri are much older but they also make much, much more than the others. |
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Mar 30, 2020 20:26:46 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 20:26:46 GMT -5
in addition to health insurance and having their travel paid for, the top usav athletes also get a stipend
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 21:38:45 GMT -5
I’ve learned something today, thanks for that! I suppose another benefit would be any speaking fees, clinics, and other random income opportunities provided to a professional athlete. Not going to be making millions, but they do well for themselves.
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Post by guest2 on Mar 30, 2020 22:08:16 GMT -5
in addition to health insurance and having their travel paid for, the top usav athletes also get a stipend Ive learned something too. Any idea how much? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 1:53:10 GMT -5
in addition to health insurance and having their travel paid for, the top usav athletes also get a stipend Ive learned something too. Any idea how much? all i know is higher ranking(compared to the other usa athletes) = bigger stipend around 2010 it was at $1,000 a month for some, but they did not use the current system |
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Post by jackson5vb on Apr 5, 2020 8:28:03 GMT -5
Is there any update on the locations/ dates of the AVP stops this summer?
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Post by Winbabywin on Apr 5, 2020 9:50:19 GMT -5
Keep in mind that those figures that showed what the teams earned; those amounts are what the duo earned, not the individual. Split that figure, and while it is cool to travel and have time off and all that, nobody (save 5-6 people) are really well off playing beach volleyball
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Post by Guest3 on Apr 5, 2020 10:39:12 GMT -5
Is there any update on the locations/ dates of the AVP stops this summer? There’s been conversation. Yesterday, I heard 4 or 5 events: Hermosa, MB, Hawaii, HB in October. Maybe Chicago. You could have a full season starting in July and ending in Nov if they could work it out. |
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Post by 405LAX on Apr 5, 2020 12:13:20 GMT -5
Is there any update on the locations/ dates of the AVP stops this summer? There’s been conversation. Yesterday, I heard 4 or 5 events: Hermosa, MB, Hawaii, HB in October. Maybe Chicago. You could have a full season starting in July and ending in Nov if they could work it out. Just get rid of Chicago, why bother dragging all your equipment over there, keep it in California. If you want to see it, buy a plane ticket. |
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