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Post by volleylearner on Mar 29, 2020 21:27:52 GMT -5
I hope it teaches us that we are all in this together. And not just Americans. The whole world. And not just this virus. I fear it won't. But that's being discussed in another thread. I do think it's teaching anyone paying attention just how important are teachers, health care workers, farmers, supply-chain workers everywhere. I also hope people appreciate good government. They tend to take that for granted too. Knowing someone is "important" in the abstract is easy but connecting that importance to social policies (e.g., requiring paid sick leave) is a horse of a different color. I worry the pandemic will actually make our socioeconomic divisions worse--it certainly makes them more visible.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Mar 30, 2020 0:03:56 GMT -5
The COVID death toll will likely surpass 9/11's tomorrow.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Mar 30, 2020 0:04:36 GMT -5
The COVID death toll will likely surpass 9/11's tomorrow. Should clarify, in the U.S. only.
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Post by mikegarrison on Mar 30, 2020 0:43:13 GMT -5
I hope it teaches us that we are all in this together. And not just Americans. The whole world. And not just this virus. I fear it won't. I do think it's teaching anyone paying attention just how important are health care workers... Agree 100%. Sadly, I fear the nations of the world are at each other's throat. US and China are busy blaming each other. Iran is saying this virus is a US conspiracy. As for healthcare workers, the US healthcare system was in need of a major overhaul even before the outbreak, but I fear as soon as the outbreak is over, people will forget it. Or am I too cynical? Iran says everything is a US conspiracy. They have some good reason to think the US actually is conspiring to do them harm, but unfortunately for the Iranian people the government of Iran uses the threat of the US to justify all sorts of incompetence and bad behavior.
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Post by Mocha on Mar 31, 2020 15:00:16 GMT -5
Oh Tommy..The hate lives on doesn’t it? So you are saying Fox News was lying to us?
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Post by Wolfgang on Mar 31, 2020 18:32:14 GMT -5
I'm not really sure what the coronavirus taught me, seriously. The only tangible thing for me is that it made me interested in reading John Barry's book on the 1918 Spanish Flu. But from a practical point of view, nothing.
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Post by holidayhusker on Mar 31, 2020 18:34:52 GMT -5
Oh Tommy..The hate lives on doesn’t it? So you are saying Fox News was lying to us? What I am saying is that given this dire situation, I was hopeful that maybe everyone could grow up just a little bit and examine the question put forward. I appreciate those that were decent and mature enough to address it without going off on a tangent poltically. Its already had an interested result in rural west Nebraska. People are planting large gardens and learning the art of canning again. They are tightening up their belts, and only buying absolute necessities. Although schools are conducting studies for a limited time on Zoom, many parents are supplementing with home schooling. Some are posting online. One think I found really clever is that a neighbors grandchildren have started their own Youtube Channel broadcasting news. Their guests are neighbors doing Yoga, and dentist giving dental hygeine for kids, etc. Cameos so to speak. They are up to six episodes. Teachers have formed vehicle parades and are driving around the streets cheering their kids on. Freezers are selling much faster for storing extra food. What cottage industries will be started and will thrive?
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Post by hammer on Mar 31, 2020 18:45:59 GMT -5
So you are saying Fox News was lying to us? What I am saying is that given this dire situation, I was hopeful that maybe everyone could grow up just a little bit and examine the question put forward. I appreciate those that were decent and mature enough to address it without going off on a tangent poltically. Its already had an interested result in rural west Nebraska. People are planting large gardens and learning the art of canning again. They were tightening up their belts, and only buying absolute necessities. Although schools are conducting studies for a limited time on Zoom, many parents are supplementing with home schooling. Some are posting online. One think I found really clever is that a neighbors grandchildren have started their own Youtube Channel broadcasting news. Their guests are neighbors doing Yoga, and dentist giving dental hygeine for kids, etc. Teachers have formed vehicle parades and are driving around the streets cheering their kids on. Freezers are selling much faster for storing extra food. What cottage industries will be started and will thrive? Speeding tickets, and especially very high speed speeding tickets, have gone way up in California. Imagine the 405 freeway nearly empty. That's an opportunity for a SoCal resident with a Ferrari.
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Post by holidayhusker on Mar 31, 2020 18:49:19 GMT -5
What I am saying is that given this dire situation, I was hopeful that maybe everyone could grow up just a little bit and examine the question put forward. I appreciate those that were decent and mature enough to address it without going off on a tangent poltically. Its already had an interested result in rural west Nebraska. People are planting large gardens and learning the art of canning again. They were tightening up their belts, and only buying absolute necessities. Although schools are conducting studies for a limited time on Zoom, many parents are supplementing with home schooling. Some are posting online. One think I found really clever is that a neighbors grandchildren have started their own Youtube Channel broadcasting news. Their guests are neighbors doing Yoga, and dentist giving dental hygeine for kids, etc. Teachers have formed vehicle parades and are driving around the streets cheering their kids on. Freezers are selling much faster for storing extra food. What cottage industries will be started and will thrive? Speeding tickets, and especially very high speed speeding tickets, have gone way up in California. Imagine the 405 freeway nearly empty. That's an opportunity for a SoCal resident with a Ferrari. LOL...priorities
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Post by joetrinsey on Apr 1, 2020 8:43:32 GMT -5
I hope one positive to be taken out of this is a renewed interest and support for local and regenerative agriculture. I also worry that the proverbial "Big Ag" industry will use fear-mongering over things like Chinese live animal markets to push for tightening regulations on small farms. Hopefully we'll see more of the first and less of the second.
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Post by rockhopper on Apr 1, 2020 10:46:22 GMT -5
COVID-19 has taught me how much my face itches
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Post by holidayhusker on Apr 1, 2020 16:36:32 GMT -5
I hope one positive to be taken out of this is a renewed interest and support for local and regenerative agriculture. I also worry that the proverbial "Big Ag" industry will use fear-mongering over things like Chinese live animal markets to push for tightening regulations on small farms. Hopefully we'll see more of the first and less of the second. We had many try organic including us. It was more per bushel to sell, etc. The problem was that organic allowed so much junk weed that it was almost impossible to get rid of. Noxious weeds were then out of control and then the State can not accept your entire crop. Once organic was in place for a number of years then the job of cleaning up the mess took about 10 years. Interesting stuff though...many are doing large piles of manure,( an old tradition that has made a comeback). They have a way of heating it up to get rid of the weeds, etc and keeping the much needed nutrients. "Big Ag,' as you put it, is incredibly effiecient but chemical heavy. Many have went to no till which relies on so many chemicals. This way of farming significantly cuts down on operations costs and also ensures very little erosion. Thats tough to compete with when the price of grain is so terrible.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Apr 1, 2020 20:07:02 GMT -5
What Coronavirus has taught us is that Carole Baskin definitely killed her husband.
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Post by Upfrontvb on Apr 1, 2020 22:19:18 GMT -5
Here’s a question... if we had CIA or other intelligence officers in China, why didn’t they tell us what was going on a few months ago. And why does Russia have so few cases. Because China and Russia are now saying “Who’s the Man”
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Post by ironhammer on Apr 2, 2020 6:51:38 GMT -5
It taught me nutjobs are using this outbreak to come out of the woodwork: fox8.com/news/coronavirus/man-intentionally-derailed-california-train-near-hospital-ship-federal-prosecutors-say/A train engineer intentionally drove a speeding locomotive off a track at the Port of Los Angeles because he was suspicious about the presence of a Navy hospital ship docked there to help during the coronovirus crisis, federal prosecutors said Wednesday.
The locomotive crashed through a series of barriers and fences before coming to rest more than 250 yards (230 meters) from the U.S. Navy Hospital Ship Mercy on Tuesday, the U.S. Department of Justice said in a release.
Nobody was hurt.
Eduardo Moreno, 44, was charged with one count of train wrecking, prosecutors said. It wasn't immediately known if he has an attorney.
Moreno acknowledged in two separate interviews with law enforcement that he intentionally derailed and crashed the train near the Mercy, according to the criminal complaint.
“You only get this chance once. The whole world is watching. I had to," Moreno told investigators, according to the complaint. "People don’t know what’s going on here. Now they will.”
Moreno said he was suspicious of the Mercy and believed it had an alternate purpose related to COVID-19 or a government takeover, an affidavit states. Moreno stated that he acted alone and had not pre-planned the attempted attack.
In an interview with FBI agents, Moreno stated that “he did it out of the desire to ‘wake people up,’” according to an affidavit.
“Moreno stated that he thought that the USNS Mercy was suspicious and did not believe ‘the ship is what they say it’s for,'" the complaint said.
The Mercy arrived in port this week to provide a thousand hospital beds for non-coronavirus cases to take the load of regional medical centers expecting a surge of COVID-19 patients.
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