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Post by rbball02 on Jul 13, 2020 12:18:11 GMT -5
There was a large group from the Southeast and all over the country, present at the Orlando qualifier in early March. It was wall to wall people not as big as AAU, but pretty close. No word of an outbreak from that qualifier at all. You would think if there was any word of illness they would have notified the clubs. There was Nada. I would think it would have been a pretty big news event if there was a bunch of cases. In mid-March (used the 15th), there were only 116 known cases of Covid19 in all of Florida, and less than 7,000 in the entire US. In EARLY March (7th), there were just fourteen confirmed cases in FL. Yesterday, Florida reported more than 15,000 NEW cases. They’ve reported more than 60,000 new cases in the last week. I would think that in early-March, when we didn’t have enough kits to test everyone presenting symptoms, and when results could take a week or more, we wouldn’t have tested for, nor noticed, a blip from a large gathering. Not arguing one way or another but Massachusetts had 164 on March 15th and 41 on March 9th (earliest available date) but the SLOAN Conference held in Boston has been thought to be a super spreader event. There are obviously other factors (international attendees) leading to why one event is thought of as a significant spreading event and another isn't, but the number of cases isn't a strong argument. Neither events are good indicators of why AAU's being held this week is a good or bad idea.
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Post by sonofdogman on Jul 13, 2020 16:14:39 GMT -5
Just checking... are they still calling this a National Championship? ;-) You bet they are.
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Post by VT Five-0 on Jul 13, 2020 17:31:00 GMT -5
No politics! Enjoy your timeout!
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Post by silverchloride on Jul 14, 2020 1:49:48 GMT -5
Every year since 1888, I called it. Just wanted to say it.
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Post by Phaedrus on Jul 15, 2020 5:59:40 GMT -5
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Post by gluckgluck on Jul 15, 2020 6:26:59 GMT -5
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Post by northwoods on Jul 15, 2020 7:00:51 GMT -5
I have nothing but respect for AAU keeping their commitment to the mission of giving young athletes a platform to compete, even in these trying times. It would be much easier to fold your tent and stay home this year..... maybe next year and beyond. My biggest criticism of the organization has been the focus on $$ instead of athletes, but I don’t see any money being made this week, just a venue for those who choose to compete to be able to do so. I hope when fall comes around, the NCAA and Athletic Conferences around the country have the same commitment to let schools who deem it safe enough, compete for a national championship!
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Post by deohge on Jul 15, 2020 8:01:34 GMT -5
The blatant disregard for the Health and Welfare of the athletes and everyone they bring the virus back to is astonishing. All for a tournament that is a fraction of what it used to be.
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Post by northwoods on Jul 15, 2020 8:10:58 GMT -5
SB Nation really phoned in this commentary piece. With 280 teams competing and no fans you are looking at what? 6000 total people in 2 waves? Not the 17,000 the headline blasts out there... They could have mentioned that 75% of the teams are based in Florida so any of those participants have no greater health risk than they would have going to the local Walmart where they live. Nike tournament of champions just wrapped their 3 day girls basketball event in Chicago last weekend and reviews of distancing & health consciousness among attendees were pretty positive.
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Post by henryj on Jul 15, 2020 8:11:59 GMT -5
The comments might be the best part of the article!
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Post by Phaedrus on Jul 15, 2020 8:59:39 GMT -5
SB Nation really phoned in this commentary piece. With 280 teams competing and no fans you are looking at what? 6000 total people in 2 waves? Not the 17,000 the headline blasts out there... They could have mentioned that 75% of the teams are based in Florida so any of those participants have no greater health risk than they would have going to the local Walmart where they live. Nike tournament of champions just wrapped their 3 day girls basketball event in Chicago last weekend and reviews of distancing & health consciousness among attendees were pretty positive. As with anything during this pandemic, the reality of the situation won't be known for at least two weeks after the event. Of course, I doubt they are contact tracing.
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Post by JT on Jul 15, 2020 9:46:14 GMT -5
SB Nation really phoned in this commentary piece. With 280 teams competing and no fans you are looking at what? 6000 total people in 2 waves? Not the 17,000 the headline blasts out there... They could have mentioned that 75% of the teams are based in Florida so any of those participants have no greater health risk than they would have going to the local Walmart where they live. Nike tournament of champions just wrapped their 3 day girls basketball event in Chicago last weekend and reviews of distancing & health consciousness among attendees were pretty positive. 332 teams, base on what was posted previous page (boys teams count, too). That said, 50 ppl per team does sound high — I haven’t kept track of the rules for how many chaperones per team(?) and have no idea what the average team size is (guessing at 15, but that’s just applying collegiate numbers to clubs). The 17000 number might be accurate for the number of -people- converging in the area (staying in hotels, eating at restaurants), even if some may never enter the arena. I disagree with your comparison to a Walmart trip. That trip is shorter in duration; you can wear a mask at all times; you can be socially distant; you are less likely to see people turn a trip to Walmart into a multi-day event including dining out, side trips, etc.
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Post by ucfalum on Jul 15, 2020 10:14:05 GMT -5
10 chaperones MAX per team. Teams are small- many girls have dropped out so think 8-9 girl not 12-14. And girls playing up to fill the team small. We lost a player Saturday due to "possible COVID exposure". My kid is there now and I just watched her online. It is EMPTY. Courts are spread out, looked like only a game going on the court to the right- nothing behind or to the left. Empty, not even people. Masks while you are not playing. Sidelines which is usually when the players get drink water/sports drinks. I did notice my player still slap hands going in and out but that wasn't specifically forbidden and everything else has changed. Maybe next game that will be off.
I just messaged with an elementary school friend that I usually see that these tournaments, she said something about the hodgepodge team they also have going on as well. I believe she called it a %*$# show. So there you go, too late to uncommit as cases got worse but some did.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 11:07:23 GMT -5
10 chaperones MAX per team. Teams are small- many girls have dropped out so think 8-9 girl not 12-14. And girls playing up to fill the team small. We lost a player Saturday due to "possible COVID exposure". My kid is there now and I just watched her online. It is EMPTY. Courts are spread out, looked like only a game going on the court to the right- nothing behind or to the left. Empty, not even people. Masks while you are not playing. Sidelines which is usually when the players get drink water/sports drinks. I did notice my player still slap hands going in and out but that wasn't specifically forbidden and everything else has changed. Maybe next game that will be off. I just messaged with an elementary school friend that I usually see that these tournaments, she said something about the hodgepodge team they also have going on as well. I believe she called it a %*$# show. So there you go, too late to uncommit as cases got worse but some did. Dang, sounds like a mess. I was thinking that teams would be maxed out at 15 players as some players dropped, but others would step in. I am glad to hear that many families backed out, regardless of how late in the game it was. when is the 1st team eliminated due to fever or covid?
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Post by gluckgluck on Jul 15, 2020 12:25:11 GMT -5
I have nothing but respect for AAU keeping their commitment to the mission of giving young athletes a platform to compete, even in these trying times. It would be much easier to fold your tent and stay home this year..... maybe next year and beyond. My biggest criticism of the organization has been the focus on $$ instead of athletes, but I don’t see any money being made this week, just a venue for those who choose to compete to be able to do so. I hope when fall comes around, the NCAA and Athletic Conferences around the country have the same commitment to let schools who deem it safe enough, compete for a national championship! In other words, just enough teams stayed in the tournament for AAU to not lose money, so they put everyone at risk -- in Florida and beyond. Admirable indeed.
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