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Post by midwestvball1 on May 10, 2020 9:41:14 GMT -5
So someone mentioned earlier in this post about the fact that U of H is reaching out into the Hawaii community to get money for these seniors. Hasn’t that been problematic for USC in the past? It can inconsequentially shatter the 4.5 scholarship rule. Who’s to say that you don’t end up getting a big donor to start the “Joe Blow” scholarship and fund a teams future beyond the 4.5 scholarships? Especially at a school like U of H where volleyball is an important program to Hawaii. And by the way, I don’t know why the University doesn’t step up and fund these 4 again themselves as they made money on their high athletic abilities the last 4 years filling the seats in the arena. It sends a message to these student/athletes that they aren’t that important to U of H. Next year only. Exempt seniors don't count against the 4.5 scholarship limit. That means every school like BYU, Hawaii, UCSB, UCLA, Lewis, etc. will still be at 4.5 for the team, but over 4.5 with exempt returning seniors. That money can 'legally' come from somewhere else (ie. fundraising). It will be a line item in the budget like paying for supplies or travel (sometimes paid by school money, fundraising, endowments, etc.). However, D1 senior exempt athletes can not get athletic money over what they had this past school year. D2 does not have that rule. It is all stated by the NCAA. Check out the website ncaa.org for all the back seat gamers. I do agree that it looks very tacky for the players and coach to say that. The money will have to come from the athletic department. However, it can indirectly come from fundraising. This could have been said in a different manner, especially in the overall economic state of the country. Seems very tacky and childish.
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Post by coug94 on May 10, 2020 13:57:08 GMT -5
So someone mentioned earlier in this post about the fact that U of H is reaching out into the Hawaii community to get money for these seniors. Hasn’t that been problematic for USC in the past? It can inconsequentially shatter the 4.5 scholarship rule. Who’s to say that you don’t end up getting a big donor to start the “Joe Blow” scholarship and fund a teams future beyond the 4.5 scholarships? Especially at a school like U of H where volleyball is an important program to Hawaii. And by the way, I don’t know why the University doesn’t step up and fund these 4 again themselves as they made money on their high athletic abilities the last 4 years filling the seats in the arena. It sends a message to these student/athletes that they aren’t that important to U of H. Next year only. Exempt seniors don't count against the 4.5 scholarship limit. That means every school like BYU, Hawaii, UCSB, UCLA, Lewis, etc. will still be at 4.5 for the team, but over 4.5 with exempt returning seniors. That money can 'legally' come from somewhere else (ie. fundraising). It will be a line item in the budget like paying for supplies or travel (sometimes paid by school money, fundraising, endowments, etc.). However, D1 senior exempt athletes can not get athletic money over what they had this past school year. D2 does not have that rule. It is all stated by the NCAA. Check out the website ncaa.org for all the back seat gamers. I do agree that it looks very tacky for the players and coach to say that. The money will have to come from the athletic department. However, it can indirectly come from fundraising. This could have been said in a different manner, especially in the overall economic state of the country. Seems very tacky and childish. The NCAA release said schools can use a special fund already in place at the NCAA to fund these senior scholarships so the college doesn’t have to come up with the funds. “ Schools also will have the ability to use the NCAA’s Student Assistance Fund to pay for scholarships for students who take advantage of the additional eligibility flexibility in 2020-21. www.google.com/amp/s/www.ncaa.com/news/ncaa/article/2020-03-30/division-i-council-extends-eligibility-student-athletes-impacted-covid%3famp
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Post by robonthemic on May 10, 2020 17:54:19 GMT -5
Kofi coming back would be such a great one to see. One more year with a more developed Mads at setter. It's hard for me to see him come back if his music career takes off. He's been dropping his music projects on his Insta since COVID broke out and he seems to be pretty talented and motivated to market the music career. It is tough to jump start a music career when you can't do a concert tour. He's going all digital with his music and making music videos and getting the play. He's on Spotify, YouTube and SoundCloud. I would guess he's getting decent play and paid advertisement cash waiting for that "break" into what's going to become livestreamed concert industry...
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Post by tallvolley on May 10, 2020 17:56:31 GMT -5
If Charlie Wade knows about the NCAA Student Assistant Fund why is he saying the community has to pay for these 4 student/athletes? Why is he forcing the community to put up the money to fund this instead of the NCAA?
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Post by azvb on May 13, 2020 11:09:11 GMT -5
All schools are looking to save money. Is it possible these seniors might be told, “Never mind. We’re broke.”
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Post by Volleyfan024 on May 13, 2020 11:53:02 GMT -5
All schools are looking to save money. Is it possible these seniors might be told, “Never mind. We’re broke.” No because they can’t get any less money than they did last year
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Post by midwestvball1 on May 13, 2020 12:06:50 GMT -5
All schools are looking to save money. Is it possible these seniors might be told, “Never mind. We’re broke.” No because they can’t get any less money than they did last year This doesn't make any sense. 1. Scholarship amounts are only guaranteed for 1 year. This is a NCAA rule. They are not 4 year offers. #KnowTheRules 2. We are talking about seniors with exhausted eligibility. 3. So, at the D1 level they can get up to the 2019-2020 athletic amount. Not beyond. 4. DII does not have the above rule. 5. Yes, schools can tell the exhausted senior they will not have money for them. This money is above and beyond current budgets; and the 4.5 scholarship NCAA limit. 6. This is why the announcements have been delayed.
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Post by azvb on May 13, 2020 13:55:05 GMT -5
No because they can’t get any less money than they did last year This doesn't make any sense. 1. Scholarship amounts are only guaranteed for 1 year. This is a NCAA rule. They are not 4 year offers. #KnowTheRules 2. We are talking about seniors with exhausted eligibility. 3. So, at the D1 level they can get up to the 2019-2020 athletic amount. Not beyond. 4. DII does not have the above rule. 5. Yes, schools can tell the exhausted senior they will not have money for them. This money is above and beyond current budgets; and the 4.5 scholarship NCAA limit. 6. This is why the announcements have been delayed. Thank you-I didn’t think it made sense, either! I’m wondering if schools will tell these seniors, “We’d love to have you, but you’re going to have to pay your own way,” by the time you add up all spring sports, that’s a good chunk of change. And money is tight right now on college campuses.
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Post by greatlakes on May 13, 2020 16:31:38 GMT -5
Welcome to D3 world
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Post by live2play on May 13, 2020 16:45:35 GMT -5
My understanding was that returning seniors could be offered the same scholarship amount or LESS, even zero. But they could not be offered more than what they got this year. So if schools can't come up with alternate funding, as in the case of UH, then it may come down to whether or not players and their families are willing to fork out the money to return.
I read an article at the beginning of all this stating that some schools were going to ask if they could use their surplus funds from not finishing and traveling the remainder of this season and use it towards funding returning seniors. That sounds like a great idea but don't know if that was approved or not.
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Post by wilbur on May 13, 2020 17:58:41 GMT -5
NCAA needs to get the rule allowing players to make money approved ASAP. Currently it is scheduled to possibly be implemented in a year but that is not soon enough for these guys.
Could see Cowell modeling sleeveless sportswear in the department store ads or Gasman doing promos for plate lunches!
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Post by vballfreak808 on May 14, 2020 14:00:29 GMT -5
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Post by fetchin on May 14, 2020 16:58:03 GMT -5
Where are the Ivy league guys going?
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Post by tallvolley on May 15, 2020 11:42:31 GMT -5
I’ll tell you where the Ivy League guys are going......off to a job that probably doesn’t exist. The Ivy League Universities feel that sports are fine for a limited amount of time but basically they are for Neanderthals and not the smart people. The erudite need to get to work right away and make the world a better place. Why further toil in sports and put off success one year longer than it needs to be. Let the lower and middle class engage in using their bodies and not their brains.
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Post by tallvolley on May 15, 2020 11:42:43 GMT -5
I’ll tell you where the Ivy League guys are going......off to a job that probably doesn’t exist. The Ivy League Universities feel that sports are fine for a limited amount of time but basically they are for Neanderthals and not the smart people. The erudite need to get to work right away and make the world a better place. Why further toil in sports and put off success one year longer than it needs to be. Let the lower and middle class engage in using their bodies and not their brains.
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