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Post by flamingpheonix1 on Sept 2, 2020 21:03:14 GMT -5
In no particular order... Zach Rama, Theo Snoey, Jordan Lucas, Dillon Klein, Ryan Sprague, Logan Kutzman, Marcello Souza, Pat Kane, Ryan Peluso, Christopher Hersh, Alex Rottman, The oppo from SAS. ...Just to name a few You are forgetting the 15 open MVP Owen Loncar and one of the best liberos in recent years in Mick Bakos. Callahan Hefner is also very good and Ryan Vena is arguably the best middle in the class, starting on Loyola Varsity as a Sophomore. Yea those were just a few names off the top of my head, no doubt more people belong on that list
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Post by vball986 on Sept 2, 2020 21:03:58 GMT -5
I would say that’s debatable yet he is tall but footwork very slow, slow to the ball, and setting skills vary on and off. He might not be the fastest but I personally would say as far as setting location, blocking, and serving he is the very top of the 2022 class, with Ryan Sprague just behind him I would say that Andrew and Ryan are about the same caliber. Ryan being Faster, Agile, and better court awareness. In my opinion the ocvc setter only has height over everyone. Also his serve is very inconsistent.
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Post by vball986 on Sept 2, 2020 21:05:27 GMT -5
Excuse me, he rides bench on 352. Had to rephrase it. I agree with chair mountain. Beyond MB Surf and OCVC, there is not much college level talent. You can Theo and the AZ Fear outside but that is based on potential because of their height and are yet to prove themselves. Totally agree with this statement.
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Post by vball986 on Sept 2, 2020 21:09:09 GMT -5
I agree with chair mountain. Beyond MB Surf and OCVC, there is not much college level talent. You can Theo and the AZ Fear outside but that is based on potential because of their height and are yet to prove themselves. Thank you for agreeing with me but still I do not believe that the AX outside is good. He can’t pass for his life and is very predictable. This is very much true... especially when I saw them play against Ocvc at both qualifiers where they played eachother... which they quite have a rivalry I would say between both clubs. I agree that his passing is sub par and hitting is mediocre as well considering he’s 6’7” and not hitting over people.
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Post by thebaytocsulb on Sept 3, 2020 23:42:25 GMT -5
B2B 16 Libero is a really good. I can't think of his name tho..
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Post by dude2112 on Sept 4, 2020 1:44:56 GMT -5
If we are thinking of the same player, he is 6'0 and doesn't play on 352 17s. Not a good player. The oppo from Spike and Serve is also not good whatsoever. While I am aware that you are a troll, I would like to clarify to all who read this. The oppo on SAS Keaukaiokaiwi Thompson is legit, easily one of the best right sides i have seen play. He has a fantastic serve and can dismantle any block seems like chairmountain is just one of those guys who loves to rip on kids. in one post he said he didn't know who spike and serve was. then he said the SAS oppo was no good. hmm....
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Post by flamingpheonix1 on Sept 4, 2020 1:53:37 GMT -5
B2B 16 Libero is a really good. I can't think of his name tho.. Joe Wallace
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Post by dude2112 on Sept 4, 2020 1:55:04 GMT -5
I've never heard of this kid in my life. Anyone know anything about him? Height? Highlights? Played OH for MVVC Red (-1s) in 16s last year, so look for MVVC 16 Red videos from the '19 Holiday Classic, '20 JBI or NorCal championships. I'm sure he played the same for 15s, and *think* he was on the 14s, but I'd have to check video to be sure, if you want to go back further. Eyeball test says he's 6'2"-ish (in socks) as of last January, and has great hops, but no clue what he's listed at. Hits for power, has very good location/control as well. Excellent D/ball control. I'd put him in the top 5 for power last year, though I'd be hard pressed to actually rank that top 5. Inarguably the player you noticed the most playing MVVC as 15s or 16s (Hersh, their #1 MB, was a very close 2nd for me in 16s, my son thought the lib was). I've seen kane play quite a few times. kid's a stud. if he was 6'6 he'd be the top recruit in the class. still gets it done being undersized though. I bet he does well at santa barbara
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2020 5:44:22 GMT -5
Played OH for MVVC Red (-1s) in 16s last year, so look for MVVC 16 Red videos from the '19 Holiday Classic, '20 JBI or NorCal championships. I'm sure he played the same for 15s, and *think* he was on the 14s, but I'd have to check video to be sure, if you want to go back further. Eyeball test says he's 6'2"-ish (in socks) as of last January, and has great hops, but no clue what he's listed at. Hits for power, has very good location/control as well. Excellent D/ball control. I'd put him in the top 5 for power last year, though I'd be hard pressed to actually rank that top 5. Inarguably the player you noticed the most playing MVVC as 15s or 16s (Hersh, their #1 MB, was a very close 2nd for me in 16s, my son thought the lib was). I've seen kane play quite a few times. kid's a stud. if he was 6'6 he'd be the top recruit in the class. still gets it done being undersized though. I bet he does well at santa barbara Dude is STUD, but when he goes to Santa Barbara... he is going to compete for the OH2 spot, that OH1 spot is going to be Ben Coordts for a while. I believe Kane, if taller, would be top 5 OH in his class. Kid still jumps like a freak and hits like a truck. A slight tier below Dillon Klein IMO
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Post by stylebender17 on Sept 4, 2020 13:33:37 GMT -5
I've seen kane play quite a few times. kid's a stud. if he was 6'6 he'd be the top recruit in the class. still gets it done being undersized though. I bet he does well at santa barbara Dude is STUD, but when he goes to Santa Barbara... he is going to compete for the OH2 spot, that OH1 spot is going to be Ben Coordts for a while. I believe Kane, if taller, would be top 5 OH in his class. Kid still jumps like a freak and hits like a truck. A slight tier below Dillon Klein IMO I agree that Kane is a very good player, but he is 2 tiers below Dillon Klein. Also at Santa Barbara he will be behind not only Ben Coordt, but also Owen Loncar, as well as Max Gordon, who may be switching to libero, but is a great outside as well with a huge arm. Kane could have a long way before he starts at UCSB.
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Post by dude2112 on Sept 4, 2020 14:37:12 GMT -5
Dude is STUD, but when he goes to Santa Barbara... he is going to compete for the OH2 spot, that OH1 spot is going to be Ben Coordts for a while. I believe Kane, if taller, would be top 5 OH in his class. Kid still jumps like a freak and hits like a truck. A slight tier below Dillon Klein IMO I agree that Kane is a very good player, but he is 2 tiers below Dillon Klein. Also at Santa Barbara he will be behind not only Ben Coordt, but also Owen Loncar, as well as Max Gordon, who may be switching to libero, but is a great outside as well with a huge arm. Kane could have a long way before he starts at UCSB. is loncar still going there? I remember there was an incident about some social media post or something which may have affected his commitment to santa barbara?
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Post by westcoastbias on Sept 4, 2020 14:46:28 GMT -5
While I am aware that you are a troll, I would like to clarify to all who read this. The oppo on SAS Keaukaiokaiwi Thompson is legit, easily one of the best right sides i have seen play. He has a fantastic serve and can dismantle any block seems like chairmountain is just one of those guys who loves to rip on kids. in one post he said he didn't know who spike and serve was. then he said the SAS oppo was no good. hmm.... Seriously, hoping he's a player simply trolling, because some of these comments are pretty classless given the fact that the players being discussed recently finished their sophomore year in HIGH SCHOOL. The willingness of parents/adults to openly rip on high level athletes (in all sports) who are still kids is astounding. I've never heard of him, must be average... lol, what a doofus.
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Post by dude2112 on Sept 4, 2020 14:58:01 GMT -5
seems like chairmountain is just one of those guys who loves to rip on kids. in one post he said he didn't know who spike and serve was. then he said the SAS oppo was no good. hmm.... Seriously, hoping he's a player simply trolling, because some of these comments are pretty classless given the fact that the players being discussed recently finished their sophomore year in HIGH SCHOOL. The willingness of parents/adults to openly rip on high level athletes (in all sports) who are still kids is astounding. I've never heard of him, must be average... lol, what a doofus. totally. he's gotta be a player. most likely a player who is not being recruited. must be, cuz I've never heard of him 🤣🤣
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Post by stylebender17 on Sept 4, 2020 16:00:59 GMT -5
I agree that Kane is a very good player, but he is 2 tiers below Dillon Klein. Also at Santa Barbara he will be behind not only Ben Coordt, but also Owen Loncar, as well as Max Gordon, who may be switching to libero, but is a great outside as well with a huge arm. Kane could have a long way before he starts at UCSB. is loncar still going there? I remember there was an incident about some social media post or something which may have affected his commitment to santa barbara? He has not decommitted and is still going to UCSB.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 0:19:35 GMT -5
Dude is STUD, but when he goes to Santa Barbara... he is going to compete for the OH2 spot, that OH1 spot is going to be Ben Coordts for a while. I believe Kane, if taller, would be top 5 OH in his class. Kid still jumps like a freak and hits like a truck. A slight tier below Dillon Klein IMO I agree that Kane is a very good player, but he is 2 tiers below Dillon Klein. Also at Santa Barbara he will be behind not only Ben Coordt, but also Owen Loncar, as well as Max Gordon, who may be switching to libero, but is a great outside as well with a huge arm. Kane could have a long way before he starts at UCSB. Your right, and not to mention Sam Collins. Another undersized outside hitter, Kane and Collins are both around 6’2? An inch more or less. Dillon Klein is great so I am not gonna argue on that one. Owen Lincar and Ben Coordt, I could see them starting the OH while Gordan can be a libero. Wouldn’t be too suprised. But Coordt could also move to Oppo so who knows. There pin hitters will be competing amongst each other forsure
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