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Post by moody on Aug 7, 2021 11:50:16 GMT -5
So you support a system where businesses prey off the desperation of people. Reagan destroyed the middle class decades ago when he attacked the unions. States, through laws such as "right to work" have attacked workers rights as well. Add to that the huge tax cuts given to corporations and one can argue that "obese government" has been slanting the rules toward corporations as well. It's good to see the worker having some leverage these days. If businesses are begging for workers RAISE COMPENSATION. See how that works? In my county the minimum wage is $13.00 per hour, which is what McDonald's workers make. Jobs in warehouses at least $20.00 per hour. People can easil6 find work if they want it, so no one is preying off the desperation of anyone. What businesses are doing is holding out until the unemployment runs out because they know that the people no showing interviews now are going to show up then. Until then fewer days open or slower service. We'll just have to deal with It until the government gets out of the business of paying people to stay home. Let's hope that people now realize that through employee organization and collective bargaining people don't have to try to live on a poverty wage. Corporations have been using the government long enough. It's time for workers to stand up and demand better compensation. Don't you agree?
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Post by moody on Aug 7, 2021 11:55:35 GMT -5
June jobs added in the US 850K July jobs added 942K Seems increasing wages brings back workers?
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Post by trojansc on Aug 7, 2021 12:45:56 GMT -5
So you support a system where businesses prey off the desperation of people. Reagan destroyed the middle class decades ago when he attacked the unions. States, through laws such as "right to work" have attacked workers rights as well. Add to that the huge tax cuts given to corporations and one can argue that "obese government" has been slanting the rules toward corporations as well. It's good to see the worker having some leverage these days. If businesses are begging for workers RAISE COMPENSATION. See how that works? In my county the minimum wage is $13.00 per hour, which is what McDonald's workers make. Jobs in warehouses at least $20.00 per hour. People can easil6 find work if they want it, so no one is preying off the desperation of anyone. What businesses are doing is holding out until the unemployment runs out because they know that the people no showing interviews now are going to show up then. Until then fewer days open or slower service. We'll just have to deal with It until the government gets out of the business of paying people to stay home. You’d think that they’d be able to fill those jobs in states that have already cut off unemployment for months now. Why isn’t there conclusive convincing evidence for that?
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Post by paref on Aug 7, 2021 15:41:41 GMT -5
[/quote]You’d think that they’d be able to fill those jobs in states that have already cut off unemployment for months now. Why isn’t there conclusive convincing evidence for that? [/quote]
I have wondered the same thing. If the extra unemployment check is the reason for so many jobs going unfilled, it would seem that the unemployment numbers would be glaringly different between those states that have discontinued the benefits and the ones that did not.
Also, I am hearing constantly that, "No one wants to work!", but in my (admittedly small) circle of friends and acquaintances, I can't think of anyone who is not either working full time, retired, or working the same number of hours as they always have. Where are all of the lazy, non-workers that I keep hearing about?
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Post by mervinswerved on Aug 7, 2021 17:41:10 GMT -5
It's shocking that people don't want to go back to awful low-paying retail, restaurant, and service jobs, even though those jobs are paying slightly more now than pre-pandemic. Shocking, I tell you.
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Post by mervinswerved on Aug 7, 2021 17:44:09 GMT -5
But I do feel terrible that n00b has to wait an extra 90 seconds for his morning latte.
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Post by trojansc on Aug 8, 2021 16:16:16 GMT -5
Not that this is a surprise, and it’s not specific, but not just the extra $300/month, but, I imagine even base unemployment which is like $175-500 a week depending on where you are, will not be extended past September. Although Trump did some executive order, right? I imagine Biden wouldn’t even want to, even if he had the ability. news.yahoo.com/manchin-m-done-extensions-federal-134547587.html
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Post by n00b on Aug 8, 2021 18:27:46 GMT -5
But I do feel terrible that n00b has to wait an extra 90 seconds for his morning latte. Well the bigger issue is for local coffee shops who will close because their margins are much smaller than Starbucks. That’s where most of this is heading I think. Large national corporations can find ways to make it work. Small, local businesses will give up.
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Post by mervinswerved on Aug 8, 2021 18:48:50 GMT -5
But I do feel terrible that n00b has to wait an extra 90 seconds for his morning latte. Well the bigger issue is for local coffee shops who will close because their margins are much smaller than Starbucks. Maybe you should have said that, instead of moaning about how your local Starbucks is understaffed. You just pointed out a large national corporation which apparently isn't making it work. Which is it?
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on Aug 8, 2021 19:37:55 GMT -5
But I do feel terrible that n00b has to wait an extra 90 seconds for his morning latte. Large national corporations can find ways to make it work. Yeah it's called raising prices.
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Post by cindra on Aug 8, 2021 20:11:02 GMT -5
Large national corporations can find ways to make it work. Yeah it's called raising prices. god forbid i have to pay 41 cents extra on my chipotle bowl so that someone doesn't get evicted from their home
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on Aug 8, 2021 23:50:29 GMT -5
Yeah it's called raising prices. god forbid i have to pay 41 cents extra on my chipotle bowl so that someone doesn't get evicted from their home I'm not saying it's not a price that one shouldn't be willing to pay, I'm just saying that's what the corporation will do. And possibly hire less workers.
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Post by n00b on Aug 9, 2021 8:18:38 GMT -5
Yeah it's called raising prices. god forbid i have to pay 41 cents extra on my chipotle bowl so that someone doesn't get evicted from their home Yep. Chipotle and McDonald’s (and Starbucks) are going to be fine. They have already developed processes to automate with things like online ordering plus they can raise prices and figure it out. The mom and pop burrito joint will just go out of business if their labor costs increase by 30%. And again, no that isn’t capitalism when it is being driven by the government artificially raising prices and wages.
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Post by mervinswerved on Aug 9, 2021 8:39:35 GMT -5
god forbid i have to pay 41 cents extra on my chipotle bowl so that someone doesn't get evicted from their home Yep. Chipotle and McDonald’s (and Starbucks) are going to be fine. They have already developed processes to automate with things like online ordering plus they can raise prices and figure it out. The mom and pop burrito joint will just go out of business if their labor costs increase by 30%. And again, no that isn’t capitalism when it is being driven by the government artificially raising prices and wages. If that's the case, we should redistribute some of Chipotle's profits so we can teach mom and pop burrito store owners how to make a website.
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Post by n00b on Aug 9, 2021 8:44:30 GMT -5
Yep. Chipotle and McDonald’s (and Starbucks) are going to be fine. They have already developed processes to automate with things like online ordering plus they can raise prices and figure it out. The mom and pop burrito joint will just go out of business if their labor costs increase by 30%. And again, no that isn’t capitalism when it is being driven by the government artificially raising prices and wages. If that's the case, we should redistribute some of Chipotle's profits so we can teach mom and pop burrito store owners how to make a website. Right on comrade!
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